UFO Disclosure Revelations: The 2012 Connection

And the missiles go on. And then he talked about Saudi Arabia. And he's very compelling. And these documents, I don't want to just want to address this. Let him go when you respond. Address that one of the officers suspected that somebody had been drinking. Okay. I want to hurt him. So I never heard that. That anybody was drinking. Let me say first of all, the missile shut down is that nothing to do with power failure. There is triple redundancy on power. We got Montana power. We got backup generator. We got batteries. Okay. The power that never seemed missiles could down to the power failure. Not really. Because of all that backup on power. So this had nothing to do with power. Second point. The flight security guard that reported this was about less than 100 feet away from this object. He was looking at it through his window. The right outside the front gate, right above the gate. It was glowing, right object pulsing. That day did you say no, I couldn't leave the capsule. But within seconds after that report the missile shut down. No. Was that a coincidence? Well, it's here say it. We say it. Well, you're saying that this guy told you. Well, you know what I said. I'm not asking you. You don't think he's lying. No. All right. So the guy did tell him. He did tell him. And he saw something. He saw something. The missile shut down. The missile was now weird coincidence. Yeah. I have many times. I flipped the lights which and I'm not here. What if the same thing happened a week earlier? All this time, 10 missiles go down. A lot of security guards see the UFOs right above the war five other missile banks. Okay. So why have he did K? Is that a question? I mean, we could have a K6E-7. We didn't see one of the people. Bill. Well, in science it's a question. I wish we had your mission over here. But in the case, you may not be evidence. Let's say. But in the series, our telling the same story at different air force spaces over a 40 year old. These guys were in trust in one of the weapons of destruction by the US government. Yeah. There's a hundred now are coming forward and seeing. You have a shutdown. They're nuclear weapons. The mass. The enters. The entire muscle for him. Just a time. Dr. Jacobs. He takes pictures. He comes back. They call him in. They show him the pictures. I saw it. He saw it. I'm not sure. They can't escape it. Yeah. Well, I'll go ahead. I'll go ahead. He's surprised. Hello. Go ahead. You might if I speak Mr. comedian. Go ahead. I was there. I was there. I saw the film with my own eyes. I'm not lying. Why would I? I'm a university professor with a PhD and a lot of years of good respectful research. So the guys from Alps are made out of a scene of the UFO, but they saw the results. I saw the damn thing on film with my own eyes. So don't call me a liar and you weren't there. I was. With all due respect, I call you a liar. It's just quite a step to say there was a film with remarkable images on that the CIA confiscated. Which I saw in what they did. Yeah. Which is quite a step from there to say it was definitely spacecraft from another civilization. That's the leap. It was that the sketch of the idea is reluctant to take. Hey, pal, listen to me. I didn't say it was a spaceship from another civilization. I said it was something in the air that we couldn't identify. Therefore it was an unidentified flying object. It was shaped by two saucers put together with a golf ball on top. And it fired a beam that we assumed was a plasma beam at a dummy warhead and knocked it out of space. Tell me what happened. Tell me who did that. Tell me in 1964 who had that technology pal not us and not the Russians and nobody I know of. So what's your conclusion? What about it? What's your conclusion? What's your conclusion? What are you saying? My conclusion is that something happened that you don't know what it was and it wouldn't be Surprised if it had something to do with another aspect of military testing in the sky that night. And it's a much more reasonable explanation. We're nothing. There's nothing in our inventory. So let's do this other little thought experiment everybody. Okay, let's say this has been going on since 1967. Routine. Right. There's an old joke in broadcast. You're going to do this with baking soda and vinegar bill. Hold on. We're running out of time. So an old joke in broadcasting. Well it's like trying to photograph a car wreck. At one time considered an impossible thing to do. If you send out a news crew. Go let's go shoot a car wreck. That was a joke. Well now routinely on the nightly news we see car wrecks. We see car wrecks on the freeway. We see car wrecks behind us. Because they're used. They didn't used to be a camera everywhere. There are millions and millions of cameras. There are billions of digital. So you're saying you're not saying they're on your phones. You're saying that haven't been proven. I'm saying that it's quite a step to see something you don't know what it is in the sky. To say that there are aliens. You've got to understand Dr. J. There's monitoring and you see your weapons. Dr. J. Well I understand that. Now so you're if you're questioning what he's seen. Well I'm questioning his the conclusion that the technology did not exist in 1964 to produce images on film that the CIA would want to confiscate. If I may. Well in 1964 you were tried to figure out what in 1964 you were tried to figure out what in 1964 you were tried to figure out what girls were I was in the in the service. Is this the capacity. So you can attack. You don't have your skeptic. You don't have your skeptic. Well it just doesn't. You're attacking. You're the one who's making ad hominim attacks. And saying that's quite a step. You better. That is quite a step. I mean. One of the time please we got to know the other person the other former Air Force officer retired Air Force officer involved in it was charged with photo analysis of this film. Florence management he's now deceased. Florence. Florence. I have correspondence. Private correspondence between Dr. Jacobs and and Dr. Mansman actually. And 20 years later they are marbling over what they saw. Florence professional assessment at Van<|nl|>burg in 1964 was that this was an extra terrestrial craft. Okay so he made that. That's correct. And I can send you. I will give CNN. I'm trying to get the national media involved in this as much as possible. I will send anyone any correspondent for any newspaper, any radio station, TV station, any scientists, any member of your group. All of the original documentation where we gentlemen are discussing this subject 20 years later. We're going to have we're going to do a lot more in this because we do a lot on UFOs. We thank you all for coming and we thank Dr. Jacobs. And when we come back we're going to really get into it a double debate. We're going to have a physicist, the lecturer, a researcher and a documentary filmmaker. Go up against Bill Nye and Dr. Seth, Shostak into a two versus two on this whole subject. Don't go away. Do you think it's possible that was from another world? I'm the... My Air Force training says I can't think that way, okay? I know what I saw and I get very upset and I was wondering why they won't find out what it was. I didn't tell somebody I was saying it. Maybe I have no idea. No idea. A story that's big is no way it could be. Catch you from the hole. What do you say to someone like that? It says that. Well somebody's kept it pretty secret for quite a while. What does think with gentlemen will now debate this reasonably? They are here in Los Angeles, Stanton Friedman. He's a physicist, lecturer and UFO researcher and author of Flying Sources and Science. James Fox is a documentary filmmaker and UFO researcher, the executive producer out of the blue and finishing up a new film The Working Title Beyond the Blue. Bill Nye, our science guy remains and embossed in his doctor Seth Shostak, the senior astronomer for the set high institute has stands for the search for extraterrestrial intelligence he's the host of the weekly radio program, Are We Alone. Alright, Stanton, it is... it is bills contention that yes people have side of things. Yes there are reports but we don't know. There are unidentified flying objects from other planets. Well you know I admire Bill's courage. I can't imagine a well-trained scientist who's expert at communicating science to the general masses of people who has courage enough to go on a national international television program to talk about something which he hasn't researched, something which he knows nothing about and pretend he's being a scientist about it. Frankly, I'm second tired of the debunkers making their research be proclamations. I mean Bill showed a document with you know what names redacted. How about this is a CIA document it took me five years to get about UFOs. Not just names redacted. Are you saying Stanton as a physicist that there are unidentified flying objects that have come from other places? I'm going beyond that that's why the book is flying saucers and not UFOs. UFOs would be shilly shally. There would be unidentified objects. Yeah I'm saying some of these. Some UFOs are intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. We're dealing with a cosmic water gate meaning a cover up by the government. And there are no good arguments against those two and we're dealing with the biggest story of the millennium. Before I have Bill respond, let's have Dr. Shostak respond. Dr. What do you know or not know? Well you know Stanton likes to say those of us who are not doing the UFO research shouldn't appear about them. And I find that not such a convincing argument because frankly I don't do black hole research. I'm going to astronomer I don't do black hole research but I can read a paper about black holes and decide whether it sounds credible or not. Is the guy who did it is incredible was the paper reviewed or other scientists convinced can I repeat the experiment. There's no reason that Bill and I can't offer a serious opinion on this subject. So I regret that he said that. Secondly you're not all free. We're revisiting it. Oh don't interrupt. All right. Let's bring in James Fox. Do you know that you know you're not a scientist but a filmmaker? Do you know that objects have come from other places not the earth? Here's why theory. Two possibilities. Two possibilities. The observed phenomenon by the way I've got a little document here that was released before. It requests it's from the air material command general Nathan 20 and meeting on the 23rd of September 1947 that the phenomenon is real and not visionary or fictitious. What do you know? So basically there's an observed technology for at least 60 years that one can easily establish the ability to hover without making sound without disturbing the air and accelerate from a standpoint to out of sight in the boat. So either there's an agency within some government in the world that's in possession of that technology and is kept it under wraps for 60 years. And I can definitely say that. And it's a trestrial explanation. There's a trestrial explanation for that technology or there isn't. Or the government could be honest. Or the government could be honest. Which explains it's what you're explaining. They've kept this technology under wraps for 60 years and more. Can you unequivocally Bill say that there are no objects coming from out of space? You say that. Of course not. There are definitely objects coming from out of space. There's a hundred thousand tons of land. A million. A million. Of dust that lands every, put a sheet out every night. You'll find billions. Well it's very skeptical. You know as we say in science the simplest explanation is generally the best one. So here's our problem I think. People are confident that the United States government has covered things up. Right. And indeed if you read recent publications stuff, because by last year I didn't write the book, but if you read something like Legacy of Ashes about the CIA, the CIA is covered up a lot of things. And a couple times they got their own forces shooting at themselves because one part of the organization didn't tell the other part of the situation. I point being that the US government could have accidentally led people to believe that there was a lot more going on than there really was. And so this ability of the US government to to create these rumors, generally inadvertently, man say, has led people to have confidence that when they can't explain something, by traditional means it must be some amazing, unnever before experienced. Let me get a break. We'll come right down. Where are these so-called space aliens coming from? What are they one from us? We'll ask after the break. There's still time to participate in our quick vote. Is the United States government hiding knowledge of UFOs? Head to CNN.com slash Larry King right now and weigh in. Right now, yes, by the way, is in the lead. Before we continue, let's take a look at a clip from James Fox's new movie. It involves a Japanese airliner watch. The CIA said to all the people that this event never happened. We're going to believe you lie in eyes. Oh, they go. Why is the government covering up Stanton? In my book, I have a whole chapter on six reasons for it. You want to figure out how they work. You worry about the other guy figuring out how they work before you do. Because they make wonderful weapons delivery and defenses. You don't want them to know you know they know kind of thing. If a big announcement were to be made, there would be what church attendance would go up. Mental hospital admissions would go up. The stock market would go down. But there'd be a big push for an earthling orientation. No government wants that. And for the some of the religious extremist. Do you just that? Do you just that? Do you just that? Do you just that? Do you just that? Are you just that? Do you just that? I don't know. No, absolutely not. Larry polls have shown since the 1960s that something like 50-60% of Americans believe that we are being visited by Salsa Sailing Aliens. Educational. You've ducked you for experiments that are inappropriate on a first date. And nobody's riding in the streets about that. New York Times announced it tomorrow. I think people would say well. I knew it all along. I'll leave this dissociation.