dawkins-vs-tyson-debate

I'm going to have one last comment on Richard Dawkins. It'll be quick. I was in the back row as you spoke, and so I could see sort of the whole room as the words came out of your mouth as beautifully as they always do and as articantly as they always do. And let me just say your commentary had a sharpness of teeth that I had not even projected for you. It was more, more, I had, it was my first time meeting, uh, uh, uh, medium and so and I and so I felt you more than I heard you and I asked the question, um, and it gets a back a little to what Francisco was getting at. You a professor of the public understanding of science, not professor of delivering truth to the public. And these are two different exercises. One of them is you'll put the truth out there and like you said, the other by your book or they don't. Well that's not being an educator. That's just putting it out there. Being an educator is not only getting the truth right, but there's got to be an act of persuasion in there as well. And persuasion isn't always, here's the facts, you're either an idiot or you're not. It's, it's, it's here the facts and here is, and here is a sensitivity to your state of mind and it's the facts plus the sensitivity when involved together creates impact. And I worry that your, your methods and your, your, how, how how how how how articulately barbed you can be ends up simply being ineffective when, when you have much more power of influence than what is currently reflected in your output. I gratefully accept the rebuk. Um, um, I just, just one, one anecdote to show that I'm not the worst in this thing. Um, a, um, a former and highly successful editor of new scientist magazine who actually built up new scientists to great new heights was asked, what is your philosophy at new scientist? And he said, our philosophy at new scientists is this science is interesting and you don't agree, you can fuck off. You're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a, you