Charles Hall: Tall Whites Experiences

you you you will have a sense of why I think I'm going to catch it this way based on I think reasonable analysis of events for the last of the last few years and what we know relatively well and what we are close to known well there is no way that the predominant hasn't had been recorded as a young experience as happened without thousands of government people in your second eight years of education there are thousands and thousands of members of the United States government and military know this is actually directly intercepted and they have to show them not to speak about it we already know many things to the break their head of the country to be free to speak their head to be the key to what the field with clean up problems and special relations and you had the system of the basic basis where they had to bring material these people thought that they saw a long time and they have kept their supply because what it large fortunately are the military and our government is made up of predominantly patriarchy and their choices particularly those choices made in the five years or seven years were easily justified by one answer to the degree ground. Some are talking to people that are someone to start and come pull some in their seven years and eight and that's fine and there's a witness pool building up. Some call it 400 some take 200 it's up so that they can easily be kept out. So, eventually there are going to be people a number of people coming out with extraordinary stories about their encounters while in a sort of sub-government and we have to deal with that it is not easy right and we have to be very careful because if what we know that what's going on to pretty extraordinary is almost more extraordinary we could know all right. So if they come forward with extraordinary tales we decide well that's just a little too much for me so I'm just going to beat up on you right. Just going a little too far and I have certain standards here. Well that's going to send the message to the thousands of people in the government while I'm coming forward and talk to people that are in your sense of subject. He intrigued me for the people. I'm going to hand you to simply can't let everything go. There's a very complex equation here. So my view is that when people have extraordinary story and they have a talk to them and they have an incredible bit and they have investigated and they seem to be some coherent there they have to be able to tell the tale and you can come forward and present what they have seen and you can get a proper hearing needs to be done and always treat them with respect and curse. This is essential because we are going to give a lot of very pain-driving Americans to continue this process. A merge is information. Trots Hall is most interesting of these individuals. And his tale is clearly extraordinary. And I'm pleased to have him come and tell the two and I hope they will enjoy it and I'm in consider. I hope you're here. Trots? Thank you Steve. I want to thank Steve Bassett and the members of paradigm research group for inviting me to speak. I enjoy speaking and it was a pleasure for me to be here today. I hope you can all hear me. I'm a little new with these microphones. As Steve said, I'm Charles James Hall and I wrote the three book series Millennial Hospitality. And it's what I intend to do in this talk is first I will give a short presentation that I would like to keep within 30 minutes. And then I would like to open it up to questions and answers from the crowd and then stay within my 50 minutes a lot of time. I noted that six of the pilots panel will begin speaking or a few minutes after in the next room and I'd like to stay within my time slot. I have previously appeared on a number of radio talk shows and TV shows. I won't read them all to you but you can see the listed on the screen. George Noray sweeps fox and so on. Kevin Smith and Scott Colburn. Some others you see. The list is including out there TV and wake up American song. There's more shows and I could I've appeared on more shows that I'm able to put on these slides. And so this is not an all inclusive list. I'll start with my biography. I have a master's degree in applied nuclear physics from San Diego State University. I also have a Bachelor of Science degree in physics in thermal physics from San Diego State University. And if I had done a little more research in laser optics it would have been in laser optics or if I'd done my research paper in laser optics. In addition I have a master's in business administration from Southern Ovis, I'm a computer and I'm a database expert and I have a clearance and I've worked on classified projects for the government for many many years. There's a copy of my diploma from California State University at San Diego. Remember San Diego has several different universities and this was California State University at San Diego. Not to be confused with the other fine universities in the San Diego area. SDSU, the home of the Aztecs is a very fine place with a fine football team. When I was in the service I was an enlisted man. I got my degrees after I left the service in 1968. And for which I have my wife to thank for putting me through helping me get through college. In May in July of 1964 I enlisted in the U.S. Air Force. I my wife and I were both grew up in Wisconsin by graduated from high school in the class of 62. I attended the University of Wisconsin for a year and a half before going into the service. Some of those events are described in millennial hospitality through the road home. And while I was a weather observer I was stationed. I did my basic training at LaClan Air Force Base outside San Antonio, Texas. I served in the U.S. Air Force Weather Training School which was at Shannud Air Force Base Illinois. And then in March of 1965 after graduating from Weather Training School I was assigned to Nellus Air Force Base Nevada, which is just outside Las Vegas, Nevada. And while I arrived at Nellus in March of 1965 and I stayed there until May 7, 1967. During that time frame I spent more than two years out on the gunnery ranges at Indian Springs. They're the Nellus gunnery ranges and they're served by the Indian Springs auxiliary field, which is under the command of the Nellus Base Commander. And during that two and a half years or two plus years I discovered that there is a base out in Area 54 and Area 53. And in the north end of Indian Springs Valley which the U.S. Air Force maintains for the aliens to use. It is literally an alien base. And I'll come back and talk about that more in subsequent slides. In May of 1967 I was sent to Vietnam and I served in the Mecon Delta with the South Vietnamese from May of 67 until May of 68. As I described in book three in the road home. And when I returned from Vietnam I had been given many awards. One award was for surviving 37 communist attacks. And while I was in Vietnam, when I returned to America I had less than three months remaining on my term of enlistment. I did not want to re-enlist. I'm not that military. So in accordance with their force policy I was given an honorable discharge on May 8, 1968 and sent home. Here's an example of one of the many awards I received. It's just the commendation medal. But I worked hard to get it. And it shows that I was in the Air Force and that I received a number of awards. The first question I'd like to ask answer is where is Indian Springs Nevada? This is a map, a topographical map that I was provided by Jerry Zytlund from his website, OpenSetty.org. Now I put on those extra blue things, the extra markings, Jerry provided me with the map. And you can see it on his website. Down at the bottom you'll see is the town of Indian Springs. Notice that the base is north of the highway, but everything south of the highway is not on base. It's just ordinary public land. When you're actually, notice that when you're actually standing in the town of Indian Springs and looking straight north up the valley, those mountains that I've circled in blue, which are perhaps 40 miles up there, they are, when you look straight north and just a little bit to the east, that's area 54. And when you look straight north and just a little bit to the west, that's area 53. The main alien hanger is in those mountains in area 54, just below the tree line. And the alien housing area is underground in area 53. With the, with the, you enter them through tunnels. That whole area is inside the area 51 perimeter. Dreamland is that area area 54 area 53, the mountains on the right, and some of the mountains on the left. And I'll get to that more in greater detail. Now, in addition to the area that I've circled in blue, where the main bases are, there are at least five or seven other sub bases, which are only, which the aliens only take their scout craft to around the valley. The main base is where the deep spacecraft arrives. Here's a picture taken by Captain David Coot, and I've put on the red markings. The red, the red writing is mine, is mine. But this is a picture that Captain David Coot provided for me. It was kind enough to provide for me. And you'll know this often the right is dog bone lake. Okay, that's inside Dreamland. Dreamland includes the western part of the desert southwest game ranges, where the cover story is that if you're out there and you see something white, pretend it's a big horn sheep. The aliens, as we'll see in a few slides later, have very large eyes, and when you see them looking at you above the sagebrush, it's easy to mistake them for big horn sheep, especially if you're terrified and I speak from direct experience. The red area, the alien hangar entrance that I've shown in red, in that mountain is the alien hangar entrance. It's physically on a ridge that comes out from the mountain. The ridge comes out to the southeast. You'll notice on the left is the old range for their valley. And in my books, millennial hospitality, you'll remember that I refer to the legend of Range for Harry. Range for Harry, as we'll see, was one of the alien guards. And he had a dry sense of humor like all of them as we'll see. And he thought of it as kind of a laughable joke. He's the big Harry monster from Range for when in fact he's white and has no hair. And later you'll see, you'll see towards the bottom, I've identified the old theory that was used to be Range 1, which I also talk about in my books. Now, on this picture, which we also, I'm in debted to Captain David Koot for, I'd like to talk about the deep, the tall white deep space landing area. Once again, you'll notice dog bone lake on the right. Notice that even on a hazy day, it's easy to pick out. The deep space craft, which the tall white's, you know, bring into the base, routinely come down to when they come into the earth. Dog bone lake is their landing field. And they don't normally touch down a dog bone lake unless they're in some kind of trouble or they need to adjust something. Normally they just come down to the same altitude as the main hanger. Then after they've become stationary and settled, everything is settled down, then they head off to the northwest, where the hanger entrance is. Dog bone lake runs north and south. Normally there isn't any water in the dry lake beds, although sometimes in the winter time or the spring, if you have a big range storm, there may be water in the dry lake beds, but normally there isn't. When you go out to dog bone lake as I have, it's not unusual for there to be absolutely nothing to see. Even if the tall white, even if the deep space craft have touched down a dog bone lake, they may not actually sit down on the ground. They may just come to where they're floating just a few feet above the ground and not leave any footprints or anything behind. They may not actually have disembarked. They might just be stabilizing the propulsion system or stabilizing the fields around them. But notice the distance from dog bone lake to old range four and old range three, which we have, which we can remember from the top of graphical map. That was like 40, 50 miles and we'll touch on that in a later session since I want to make sure I stay within my time limit. Now people ask me why I never took pictures of the tall whites and here's a picture of my wife on her wedding day. And so I'd like to give a physical description of the tall whites. Now, you'll see my wife looks wide and she's on her wedding gown and even makes me float out over the people. Meeting the tall whites was always a very emotional experience even when I got used to it. It took me more than six months to get over the fear of meeting the tall whites. We're naturally afraid of them and you see those desert valleys are very desolate. Being out there like 20 miles, you know, being 20 miles out from any other human at three in the morning when having anyone step out of the sagebrush would be frightening when they're not human and they come on groups. My first reaction was one of panic. When I was a weather observer out at the ranges, my log, the entries in my log books went back seven years. And during that seven year period, more than 41, weather observers had been sent to the ranges before me. Before I got there, each weather observer in turn would do six weeks of temporary duty and the each weather observer would take his turn going out there. And that had been going on for as long as the ranges were out there. And of course, a weather observer keeps very extensive log books. You keep the daily log, the weather report log, the inventory log, and so on. And when you read through that, those log books, each one in turn would start by trying to do his duty. But after just a very few days, sometimes only two or three days, sometimes a week, sometimes 10 days, they would get compromised. Many would become so afraid of the ranges that they wouldn't go out there. They would literally sit in the cow haul at Indian Springs and make up the weather, right out of the thin air. You know, just say, well, I suppose if I were to take the winds, they would say this. You know, someone would get someone to try valiantly to do their duty. And they would get so terrified that when they went into Nellus to the neurosurgeon in the base hospital, they would get reassigned to places like Germany or England or Hawaii, some would be given discharges for, you know, because they couldn't take it anymore. A few had gotten attacked and burned as I described in my book. When you're out there and the tall whites come, the first, when you lose yourself control, then if you happen to hit one of the children or one of the tall whites, then they respond to the way you and I would respond. It's not pleasant as I describe in my books. The tall whites have bodies and bones that are thinner than humans. Their skin is as white as a piece of paper. They have larger eyes than humans too. Their eyes are roughly twice the size of our eyes. And when they're young, they're blue and white, just like ours. When you look at them, they look just like people with larger eyes. The eyes spread around the side of their head more than a human's does, and they're very prominent. And their eyes side is as good, at least as that of a cat, and they're hearing as as good as at least as that of a dog. They're capable of making sounds with their vocal cords that humans can't hear just the way that I'm told right now, services can do. But they can hear them, and they're well aware of this. When I was out there among them, it wouldn't be uncommon to apparently hear animal sounds out in the sagebrush. Sounds like metal arcs or dogs barking, or horses, when you really, it was the aliens. When they would walk in on me, if they felt like just talking between themselves, they were perfectly capable of talking between themselves, using sounds too high for me to hear, and they were well aware of that. So they could stand in a line, say, many times, well, just out of hand, reach if I were brave enough to wait for them to come in that close. And it took months for me to get that brave. And it would appear that they weren't talking at all. But in fact, when you watch them, you could see that they were communicating between each other. Now, they have much less hair than humans do. They don't have any hair on their arms. They're hair on the hair and their head is only about half the thickness of our hair, and their hair is naturally so thin that it's transparent, so thin and blonde that it's transparent. Sometimes, if you see them out in the sunlight of the distance and they're wearing their hair short, they grow just like ours does. It'll look as though they don't have any hair. When they do come in close and you see them that see that they do have hair, they'll look naturally platinum blonde. They, um, throughout most of their life, they're the same high thiam, five eleven. They live ten times longer than humans, and so a normal adult, a normal alien adult, equivalent to a human 21, 22 years old, would be 200 to 50 years old. They live about 700 years, give or take depending on each individual, and they don't age the way humans age. When they get to be equivalent to a human 3940 in there somewhere, they begin growing again. And then they continue growing periodically, they have several other growth phases, and they get taller. So that throughout most of their life, although they're my height, once they start growing again, they can become very tall before they die. It's not unusual to see older tall whites that are eight and a half, nine feet tall. This is not necessarily helpful for them because their bones and skeletons grow, but their internal organs do not grow in proportion. So as they become taller, they become more frail. It was unusual to see a tall white more than eight feet tall, just walking by themselves. By the time they got eight or eight and a half feet tall, it was most common thing, was to see a younger tall white common walk beside them, to study them because they were becoming more frail and more shaky. By the time they got to be nine feet tall, it wasn't all unusual for them to not be, to just be, if they were standing somewhere, being posted as a guard, for them to stay there until a younger person came to help them walk away. You see in book one, in my chapter entitled, Millennial Hospitality, for which book one takes its name, the old lady who was a tall white, she was out hiking in the desert with her younger niece, who would stay beside her at all the time, to study her. You see, the other man that had been out hiking with them, he was willing to allow the old lady to take her own separate path, only because she wasn't alone because she had her niece with her. She was very shaky and frail and a little ditsy too even for a tall white. And it's kind of like their version of either the punk or as I described in my book, you know, the ones that are high, the young adults, can easily dress up to pass as humans. And when I say easily, I mean from my point of view, it seemed easy enough for them to do that, how the period from their point of view is seemed easy enough for them too, I'm from most of them. In Las Vegas, Nevada, especially in the 60s, you know, on Saturday night, long about 11 o'clock, everybody looks a little weird, half of them look drunk, you know, you see a lot of tourists there that you wonder which part of the world they came from. Well, under the circumstances, see for a tall white lady to dress up and put on and for the men to put on sunglasses, well in Las Vegas, there were a lot of men walking on sunglasses after 11 o'clock at night and you didn't go up and push them or you'd find out which casino they were protecting, you know. Well, see, it was very easy for them to walk into a casino at 11 o'clock at night or 12 o'clock at night and dressed as humans and go totally unnoticed. Remember the tall whites weren't by themselves, they always came as a group with their guards and they also typically came with a group of humans, CIA guards. One night I was standing on the corner outside the four queens hotel on casino in the summer of 1966. When a group of them came through, first there was a group of six, CIA guards, four men and two women who came through in the wide perimeter and the wide perimeter being about a half a block in each direction and took up positions, you know, in just inside the casino looking out the windows, two in the golden nugget, a man and a woman, two across the street and Vignan's club. One down the street to the left of me, you know, a couple in the bath and so on. Then the tall whites came through with their guards and the tall white guards, of course, regress like humans, they were male and then the two women, the teacher and Pamela came in and they were, what they were doing was what all tourists do, just enjoying themselves. Well, see, the tall whites when they came into Las Vegas, they knew perfectly well, they were coming into a friendly town. When you were down when I was down in the star dust, hotel and casino on the strip, the old star dust used to have a motif, where hanging from the ceiling was fake stars and galaxies and supposedly what it would look like if you were out in space between the stars. The tall whites loved to come in and see that, they thought it was really entertaining because they'd been out between the stars. This is all that's what humans think it looks like, you know. Well, the CIA had kind of established that casino in that area as a friendly part of town. So they had, you know, a pit boss and a team of dealers and a couple of lady CIA guards who had function as keynote girls and at any time at all, the CIA team could come in and replace the regular pit boss and guards and just be dealing at the table. And or handling the crap table or it's watching this showboat across the street or casino and so on. And just making sure that nothing unexpected happened and then when the CIA, when this tall whites came in, for example, one day when they came in at 4am on Sunday morning, there were just friends, were, you know, they were just friendly guys around so that, you know, if you were to ever try to go up to one of the tall whites, you would discover that the CIA guards would muscle you know. Unless you, you know, you could go up there and of course they knew me in those days and so, you know, the stories they would tell would be kind of interesting and although, you know, the CIA guards were never very talkative, you know, they'd always want you to just pretend they were ordinary, you know, and that was kind of hard. The one way I used to pick them out was that because the tall whites are thinner than we are, the one thing they can't disguise is the way they walk. They walk differently than humans. They come from a planet that is much larger than the earth has a stronger gravitational field. And when they walk, they naturally, once you get the idea of just standing and looking at a crowd in Las Vegas as I did at night and just watching the crowd silhouette it against some distant lights, you can pick them right out of there there because they shuffle when they walk, you know. The gate is just simply different than that of a human because they don't, they don't full-stri'd the way we do and stuff. And I can answer that more in the question and answer sessions since I want to make sure I don't go over. Meeting the tall whites was always a very emotional experience even when I knew they were friendly and that they hadn't come to hurt me because they're not human. Some of the emotions that I used to feel when I came, the first one is that we as humans are naturally afraid of them. Every man I ever met who had seen them always related to the facts began by saying, I was afraid. My friend in P.O.L. who saw the moderate range of four described and they had shut down his truck. He was so terrified he was going to try to walk back into town from range four on a hot summer day knowing it is impossible that you'd die in the desert heat. And that he'd gone down into the desert for a mile or so and hidden under the sagebrush until they left. And he used to tell me the first time he told me that he was shaking and fear. As you see in my books when I first encountered them, I was terrified. At first I thought I was dreaming when they came into the barracks at night with American generals with them. The early encounters which there were many episodes that are not in my three books that may be in later books. Because in my books I was trying to capture the emotion of how it felt and convey that to the reader. Originally I had the book started as an autobiography. I wanted to capture those emotions and convey it to my children and grandchildren. And then as you see my wife said, no, we have to publish this. And the initial emotions were, I found that I couldn't describe them with the spoken word. And that's why I wrote the books as an attempt to capture that. The initial encounters I was in my barracks in May of 1965. And at night the American generals with three and four stars would come through with their alien counterparts, the alien generals. Because the tall white society is structured very similar to ours. And when they came through, you know, I thought it was nuts. I thought it was dreaming. You know, when I was sent to Indian Springs, I was never given a briefing. No one ever came to me and said, this is what you're facing. No one ever came to me and said, you're part of a project and had me sign a piece of paper. No one ever came to me and said, the aliens would like to tell you something. The aliens never wanted to tell me anything. They were perfectly fine. I was in a listed man. I was perfectly fine with everybody. If I was never told. I had everything I knew. I had to figure out for myself and by reasoning and biobserving and so on. As a weather observer, I was never part of a specific project. I was never helping design an airplane. However, you'll see in book three in the appendix, since I have a master's degree in physics, I have published Hall Photon Theory. I believe I understand the physics of how their craft works. And we'll get to that in a later slide. But meeting them was a very emotional experience. They are naturally as afraid of us as we are of them. Some nights after I got used to the idea that they were real and that they would come around with the men, women and children, because they have men, women and children just as we do. And once I got used to that, then it was kind of their turn to be afraid. I remember one night, there were many nights, but one night, for example, after the deep space that arrived on Sun Down on the night of the full moon is usual. And this was about August, 1965, 66 in there. And the tall white guards who were experienced had brought a group of new arrivals down to show them me. What a human looks like. And I know I'm the test human. And then listed man, if anything goes wrong, they can just cut me down. And we haven't missed anything. And the new arrivals have to get used to talking to a human before they can be introduced to quality folk like generals and scientists. So take them out. And if anything goes wrong, well, we'll just cut down Charlie. But nobody's told me that. But I remember it was almost comical because some of them were so afraid of me that they wouldn't come within a quarter mile. They were out in the desert. They'd you see the gorilla. Yeah, I saw the gorilla. I'm just out there trying to do my job. They have a very dry sense of humor. When you get to know them, they don't have context sports like we do because they don't have the bodies for it. If they break an arm, it takes their arm ten times longer to heal up than it does ours. If they scratch themselves, it takes their scratch ten times longer to heal up than it does you and I. One day I was out there in the morning and I scratched myself. And I was young and in the most perfectly ordinary fashion. I put on some alcohol and forgot about it. The next day when they came, the scratch d'arty healed up. And one of the new arrivals who was braveer than the other was talking to the guard. And they noted that my scratch d'arty healed up and asked to fall humans were that way. It seemed to be one of the few things that humans did that they found NBS. We also multitask mentally in a way that they don't. If they're doing something, they just concentrate on it. So if they're writing, then they're just really focused on writing. If they're walking, they're focusing on walking. They're surprisingly easy to surprise when they're doing something because they just naturally focus in so well. One night I was young and one night I was taken the 430 a.m. weather report. As a weather observer, I had to get up Monday through Friday at 3 o'clock in the morning. I bumped by myself in the barracks at Indian Springs. And I had to go out there for the 430, get ready and release a balloon for 430 a.m. And measure the upper level winds. And as you see in my books originally, I was on my first toaduity. It was six weeks of T.D.Y. They sent me back to NLS. The guy who replaced me got compromised. The tall lights would have killed him, but the generals asked them otherwise. As I described in book one, so they sent me as the replacement. Then the guy after me got attacked and burned, so they sent me as the replacement. So then they formed a committee with the tall lights and the American generals. And they decided that they would just pick one weather observer and send him all the time. They picked me. And they gave me special orders, which were secret and sent me out to drink. Sent me out there. I remember well the day my commander, a major, who wasn't a high enough rank to be told anything. I remember the day he gave me the orders. It was a Sunday. They had me working the day shift at NLS when no one else is in the weather station. And he had to come in at noon in the NLS base commander. And the number two man had to come in at noon and receive the orders from the Pentagon. And then the two guards and the dog had to bring the major over and he locked the door. The guards stayed outside and he began reading me my orders. And he said, airman hall, you're cleared to go to dreamland any time you want day or night. And I thought he meant it was okay to sleep on duty. You know, I was so new. You know, what a place, you know. And then when he finished reading the orders, he said, nothing you do will ever be classified. No one can come out and inspect you. No one can ever ask you a question. But you can tell anyone anything you wanted any time if they're willing to listen to it. Okay. And then I had to sign the paper saying, I understood my orders. And as usual, I always said you have any questions. And I said, well, will there be a cop out there? You know, because if I'm going to get to sleep on duty, you know, I want to solve plays. Right? And the major looked a little confused. And he said, it was his understanding that dreamland was a place. But that only I would know where that place was. And that was the first time I'd ever heard or seen tell of dreamland. And even that was kind of emotional because, you know, I was thinking, well, you know, like kind of places this. Then the major had to sign, had to put, you know, my signature, the paper just said Charlie has received his orders. It was put in the top secret safe in his place. And I had to sign the orders from the Pentagon. And he took it back to the, to the Nellis Base Commander, and the number two man. And next day I shipped out for Indian Springs. And then after that I was just the observer. Nobody could replace me, you know. And, um, married men couldn't be sent out there at all. Single men could only be sent out in groups of two or three. And only for three days and two nights, once, period. One of the other men who served with me that I refer to a small Jimmy Payne in my books. He could be sent to relieve me for two weeks, every six months. But only if the other people, the other maintenance people of Indian Springs, a company him, whenever wherever he went, for his own protection. But for me, I could go anywhere I wanted, provided I did so alone. I could go anywhere up in all those mountains, where we saw him out. Anytime I wanted to your night, and I've been up in all those mountains. If I took someone else out with me, I wouldn't have been in any trouble. It's just that the guards were to stop the truck and said, well, I see you got somebody with me with you Charlie and shot him. I wouldn't have been in any trouble at all, but the people who were with me would have been gunned on. The tall whites, I'm going on with the emotions of the company, meeting them. They enjoy having fun. That's why you'd see them in Las Vegas. They got bored as the devil out there in the desert. The women and kids want, and the young men want to come into town and have fun. The same way that humans do, because they have emotions just like we do. The only difference is that they handle the emotion of anger differently than we do. And I believe I discussed that in this next slide. When I was a young man, if I met another young man, and we didn't immediately like each other, you might take him aside and say, you know, there's something about you. You just don't like it. And then you'd beat each other up and then you'd be friends. You know, you'd have a good fight and then you'd pretty soon you'd be bonded. The tall whites aren't like that. If they ever become angry with you, they will either just go away, period, and never come back, or they will attack you. And there will never come a time where you and they are friends because now you fought it out. You're either dead or they're gone. There's no other way. That's the way they are. The mothers love their children. When the tall white mothers came, it was very common for the mother to begin by saying to me, do you understand that we love our children more than human mothers love their children? Or in other words, don't touch my kid or archaea, right? And of course, I always, on the other hand, if they came and they didn't say anything, then it was very common for me to say it begin the conversation by saying, I understand that you love your children more than human mothers love their children. Or in other words, I'm not going to touch your kid. Please, don't take it out of me. They're very protective of their children, including the man, they'll do anything to protect their children. When they came around with their, with the little children, you really couldn't touch the child, period. The mother would, you'd be facing one angry mother. If you ever reached out and just touch the child, you really couldn't. Speak to the child in a negative fashion. You really couldn't say, don't do this. That's who was side. The mother will kill you. And if she can't do it herself, they never come alone. The guards will come help her, the tall white guards will. They're very proud of their family relationships. It was common, for example, for the, especially the women when they came and they always came in groups, they began by pointing out family relationships if there were some, to begin by saying, The guard and the tower is my mother's sister, or my mother's son, or this is my brother, and so on. They're very proud of them. Each tall white individual was different from every other tall white individual, just like humans, they're all different from each other. And they were very proud of the fact that they each one was set to an individual. And so when you talked about, say, like, when Paula was wanted to draw a picture of the tall white, which appears on her website, and that is a very specific tall white lady on her child on Paula's website. Drawing a picture of the tall white was kind of like trying to draw a picture of somebody from New York City. They're all different, so you had to pick a specific person on a specific day to specific time and say, that's what they look like at that time, you see? Their nervous system operates at least two to three times faster than ours. And this lets them think and react both logically and emotionally faster than a human does. As you see in book three, in the chapter entitled The Undevitasyns, when I'm standing out there north of the range three lounge, and the tall white lady who see I name was Pamela, when she panicked on me, she could pull her weapon, pointed at me and fire it out me, so fast that I hardly had time to tighten the muscles in my throat, because once they became angry, they could just change emotional states that quickly, because they're nervous system ramps so much faster than ours. They enjoyed out thinking me, one time I asked them on one night when the teacher came with the children and the guards, because they never came alone. And the kids were playing on the tower and not finished my balloon run. I went over to the teacher and I said to her, and she was just a short distance away, closer than here to that box sitting on the table. The teacher was one and range for Harry and school bus driver and co-pilot. There and tour guide. There were some of the few that I felt willing to approach. Usually I preferred to stand with my feet in one place, in my arms at my side, they never want to be touched by a human, and let them come in as close to me as they were willing to, and let them and leave whenever they wanted. But there were very few, there were only a few that I was willing to actually walk up to, you know, and to where you'd talk. And I remember asking the teacher where they came from. And she said to me, do I know the names that they use when they talk about the stars? And I said, no, I didn't. And she said, so if we told you, you still wouldn't know where we came from. And I said, no, and then they were all laughing because it out thought me. It was apparently pretty easy to out think Charlie. And they enjoyed doing that. They enjoyed those kind of that kind of humor. And they also meticulously keep their agreements. They're like Philadelphia lawyers, that way. One of the first agreements that I negotiated with them was that I would never come up behind them and scare them, and I asked them to never come up behind me and scare me. And if they came and I was working, I wanted them to make some noise or something, so I knew they were there. And then the agreement was that I would stand in place when they approached me from the front, or from a direction that I could see them. And then they could come in as close as they wanted. I wouldn't close the distance just stay on there. And they could come in until they felt comfortable. And if they felt like leaving, I would never pursue. If they wanted to leave, if they felt in come in too close, or they got nervous or something, that they felt it was time for them to go, I would never pursue after them. And vice versa, if they were coming in on me, and I got nervous because they were getting too close as in that short, that episode I described in the wayward win. When the alien doctor was coming in on me and freaked me out, that if I chose to start backing off, they wouldn't pursue. They would just stop until we'd both agreed on a mutual distance. And they kept that meticulously, and of course they expected me to keep that meticulously too. And that's how they are. The agreement they had with the US Air Force was that nothing I did would ever be classified that I could tell anyone any time I wanted. They expect the American generals to keep that to the letter. It isn't anything special about me. It's that once they've made an agreement, that's the agreement. If there weren't something in it for them, they wouldn't make the agreement. They don't, you never forced to make an agreement with them. But once you make an agreement with them, the last thing you ever wanted to do is to break the agreement. Each one of them is different. Some are humanistic like the doctor. They're generals or what you expect a general to be. Each one is different. Let's see here. Let's see. I got a mouse here. There we go. In closing, I'd like to code a few things. This I'm coding from Paula Harris in her nice book, Connecting the Dots. This is found on page just 46 and 47. In this page, she is interviewing Montenir Carado Belducci, who will be speaking here, I understand, a tomorrow. Paula Harris asked him, can you quote some church fathers who suggest the existence of life and other planets? And Carado Belducci replied, yes, they're several. And forgive me if I mispronounced the Italian names. And Andrea Belldreamy, the solution father and servant of God, prayed for the inhabitants of other planets. And as you see of the 16 books he wrote, one seems to deal with this topic. And the second was the recently sanctified Padre Pio. Montenir Carado Belducci continued coding Padre Pio. We are things are nothing to the glory of God. The Lord certainly did not limit his glory to this small planet. Another planets, other beings exist, who did not sin and fall as we did. Then Paula Harris asked him, is it a grave mistake to think that you are the official voice of the Vatican? And Montenir Balducci answered, these ideas are mine and I do not represent the Vatican. However, I'm told that the late Holy Father Pope John Paul II has seen me on Italian TV several times. And follows my radio homilies. If there was some objection, I'm sure I would know. Based on that statement, I have the following observations. The situation today is kind of the reverse of the one that Galileo faced. Back then, in the time of Galileo, the church wanted everyone to think inside the box. And scientists wanted to think outside the box. Now it's the reverse. Now the church is in the philosophical philosophers and so on. Are willing to think outside the box, it's the scientists who keep wanting us to think inside the box. It's the scientists who want to pretend that we can't travel fast in the speed of light. When I routinely saw the deep spacecraft land having come here to earth, traveling faster than the speed of light. I never saw anything that would lead me to believe that aliens were supernatural, that they seated our planet. I never saw anything to believe that that would lead me to believe that the tall whites wanted to create high breads. They were very proud of the way they were. That there were wormholes in space, or that they traveled forward or backwards in time. However, their craft did routinely travel faster than the speed of light and making the deep space crossing. That I've served on many occasions. I've captured this. Now I'm not going to talk about science today because I want to stay within my 50 minutes and I see I got a hurry if I'm going to do it. I want to speak, but in book three, in the appendix, I have Hall Photon Theory. And I'll just show this slide to show that it's there. And the basis of Hall Photon Theory is that I believe that inside the photon there's a third field. And there's an electric field, a magnetic field, and a third field that I call the star shine field. And I believe that if scientists were to study famous experiments like the Nicholson Morley experiment, the waterfield telescope experiment, what's happening in outside to orbital coils, that would be very obvious that there was way more to physics than what they're looking at. And I described it in my book. And the Hall White spacecraft were appeared to be the design of the Hall White spacecraft. New about the existence of these other fields and used them in the design. The Hall White spacecraft had an inner hull and an outer hull. And for example, and in between those two hulls were miles of fiber optic windings. Inside the small skull craft, for example, I want to be estimated that there might have been as much as 1,000 miles of fiber optic. And between there, melted fiber optics is could be easily confused with the slag from an aluminum furnace. And you'll remember that Alan J. Heinick said he had like 500 samples of slag that had fallen off from flying saucers. And they were characterized as slag from an aluminum furnace. And the first five-bropdix is typically 49% aluminum. You'll notice it in the previous presentation they mentioned that fiber optics was ceramic with plastic around it. But that plastic melts at what 1506 degrees Fahrenheit. You'll see in book two in the day in the chapter entitled The Day Without View, when I observed the skull craft, it had a meltdown of its fiber optics. And those and the aliens alone without humans around, without the U.S. Air Force or whatever, worked on that skull craft from like Wednesday afternoon to the following Monday night. They played hell, getting it to work again. And when they finally got it working on Monday morning, two other skull craft came down and sat beside it to stabilize it while they nursed it back up to the main hangar to do more repairs on it. As far as I know, I'm the only human that got within a short viewing distance I got within, I don't know, 100, 200 feet of it before their guard wouldn't let me get any closer. And what they were working on was fiber optics. And inside the deep space craft, as I described in book three in the opening chapter, the road home, it had taken media damage. And it had the same construction, an inner hall and an outer hall. And then inside the inner hall, there was a road, it was like a cruise ship, there was a row of rooms that obviously functioned as storage for supplies, boxes and other things. And then inside that was another row of bulkheads. And then inside that was the living area. And when the media had come through, they had obviously, it had obviously struck the craft just over the left running light up on top. And it had come down through it more or less, a 45 degree angle. And it just blasted its way through that little row of rooms where that, that restored rooms and had just come in the top and going out the bottom. And when they finally got that landed at the Mount Charleston Scary, and that's no storm as I described in my books, man, that was just barely holding it together. They were, they had the land. I've always felt that if the tall whites had had any other base area on the earth other than Indian springs, because of the storm that we were having at the time, that they would have put in somewhere else if they could have. But, you know, they had the land. They couldn't, they couldn't have stayed out in space. They told me even another two days, you know, for the waiting for the storm to clear. And so that technology must be easily accessible for American scientists if they would start thinking about famous experiments like Nicholson Morale, with an open mind. Nicholson, the Nicholson Morale experiment, once you realize the photon has a third field, there's no reason for whatever to believe in relativity, and to believe that the arms of the interferometer are shortening or anything. Now, I want to close up, because I want to stay, you know, as close as I can to my time a lot, one and I see I'm getting very close. I have just a few minutes for questions and answers, and then I'll close. You've been a wonderful audience, and as I described in my book, in book three, I have personally seen two kinds, the tall whites at Indian springs. And the ones I called the Norwegians with 24 teeth in Madison, Wisconsin. The Norwegians with 24 teeth look so much like us that if my dentist hadn't pointed him out to me, I would have never guessed it. Now, humans are genetically coded for 32 teeth as our all mammals. Some dinosaurs have 32 teeth. No mammal has ever had genetic coding for 24 teeth. However, in a 1949 U.S. Army study, something over 5,562 people were put to death in the German death camps in World War II that were rounded up from northern Norway, Denmark, Germany and Poland, who were genetically coded for 24 teeth and had slightly web feed. And the ones that the young man and the young lady that I met in Madison, Wisconsin, and there was a third individual that I met in Cambridge. I didn't actually talk to the third individual. They all claimed to have come here from a nearby star, possibly Bernard Star or the next star out. And their description of that star in 1962 is consistent with what is known about those stars today. The next star out from Bernard Star, for example, is believed to have a system of at least five planets, is smaller than the sun, and is a red-reddish brown dwarf. And in 1962, that is consistent with the description the young man gave me of his of the star that for his home planet orbit. I know it's the next of the trans-relations, but I've never known them to be station here. We haven't met the top lights. Oh, we've met recently. Oh, I've met them. Anyway, why are they here in the United States? Why are they here? Are they here in the United States? They use the base at Indian Springs up in Area 54 for the same purposes that the US Air Force and the US Navy used bases in the Pacific. They use them as a place for their deep spacecraft to put in to refuel, to refurbish and stand out to space again. They're typically in port for two weeks. They typically land at sundown on the night of the full moon because they're trailing the earth in the orbit. When you add sundown, you're on the part of the earth that's trailing in its orbit. And on the night of the full moon, the moon is opposite the sun, and you're looking at a gravitationally smooth gravity field, see on the moon is moving away from you. So for them, it's like an airplane coming in on an aircraft carrier landing, simple as pie. Then they stay in port for two weeks, and at midnight on the night of the new moon, then they take off. Now at night of the new moon, the moon is in between the earth and the sun. And at midnight, you're on the side of the earth, away from the sun. And if the moon is on the other side of the earth and the night of the new moon, you're looking at a totally open field. There's nothing from you. And when the deep spacecraft powered up and took off, I mean, they powered up and took off. I realize that if they were in trouble, or if they had an experienced pilot, sometimes you'd see the smaller deep spacecraft come in one or two nights before the new moon or before the full moon, or one or two nights after the full moon, but the large ones, the ones that are the hardest to control, or the ones with the new pilots, always came in very promptly, just like it in their port. You know, you could watch a line of take off. There were schedules to it. They had the smaller deep spacecraft run at schedule of two months or two and a half months. A specific craft could take off from the earth, go somewhere on certain to another star, and return in two or two and a half months. Now if the nearest star is four light years away, that means that they were traveling, I don't know, 24, 25 times a speed of light, you know, which didn't seem at all. One time I mentioned that to him, and it didn't, didn't nobody flinch, didn't seem like, like, oh, I'm to them. So, yeah, there was, I saw a great deal that isn't in my books, but I haven't had a time to cover in this lecture. Sure. Do you have a clue about the nature of the view? It's my understanding that there are five subatomic particles that are easy to produce, I'm not sure which five, but like Maysons or whatever, that put out anti-gravity. And what they're doing is creating the particle, they're building the subatomic particle equivalent of an electromagnetic. In an electromagnetic, you have electrons following wires. Well, what they're doing is creating particles that put out anti-gravity and using the coils to strengthen the field, just like an electromagnetic does. I'm not sure which five, but I've always felt that if our scientists deliver more, would stop telling me about how much they know, and instead start running a few experiments by Chunkin' those Maysons down in the other subatomic particles around fiber optic coils. You see, building fiber optics that bend those particles and Chunkin' down there, that it would be a very simple matter to discover. Yeah. The guy in the back? Okay. The guy in red and then I'll come over here on this side. Why is there a concept of thought? I don't know, but as you see in my books in the second book, when the teacher was explaining to the other tall whites, the day that I was up in the main hanger, and they had me standing up in front of them with chairs, although they were folding chairs, and the American general off in the left. And she was saying, she was also in book one in the day they had me out at the range three lounge. The teacher was saying to the crowd, to the tall whites, about me, she was saying, he believes in God, and he believes that his God will protect him from us when we come in close, and everyone understood. And so she didn't have to explain to them religious concepts or what God was. They all understood what she meant by that. And so that's as close as they ever came to explaining anything related to religion to me. But over here on this chat, yes, the guy in blue. What kind of reason does our government have for them? Agreements? But from what I understand, the agreement is that the government will provide them with a base because the outer perimeter is manned by US by human guards, US Air Force guards. The inner perimeter is treated like an alien embassy in this man by the aliens. It's physically running around about a third of the way up on that mountain. When you go up that Indian Springs valley, you'll see, and you get to the very end, it's so beautiful. It's a shame it's a government land because it would be one of the most beautiful resorts in America. I've always felt that if you were to just blindfold somebody to take them up there and release them, they wouldn't think they were on the earth anymore because it's so beautiful. And I've been up there a number of times. When you get to the up to there to the right and you go to the start going up along the road along the side of the mountain to where the human guard shack is, it's just breathtakingly beautiful. And what the government wants is technology transfer, the government would do anything to get technology transfer from the tall whites. The tall whites only agree to things if it's in their interest. And so the tall whites and then return the tall whites get a base, you see, which they need for it to be like in the service their deep spacecraft. The government, the tall whites didn't come here to actually give us technology. It has to be in their interest. So the tall whites had no reason to tell us how to build deep spacecraft. The day that I was out there, for example, in book two that I previously described, there was only tall whites working on that craft. It had been built using parts provided to them by the US Air Force. However, the Air Force gave them the parts and they assembled it, especially the propulsion system with no humans around. That's why I say as far as I know, I'm the only human that ever got to within a gut close to them in any other human to this craft. While they, while the alien mechanics were actually working on it, the tall whites didn't see any reason that it didn't see where it would be in their benefit to help them to for them to help us in that area. So, however, like radios, they were all perfectly willing to help us with areas like radios, like all sorts of things, that were there, you know, so like they could put in and say, I'd like to buy a new replacement radio for my spacecraft and have the Americans provide him with a new high quality radio. And for the Americans and the aliens had mutual agreements. And one night on several nights early on, when I was in my barracks in the American generals came through with the alien generals, I could hear him standing right outside the door way closer than from here to that door, because it was a very small thing. Maybe as close as from here to that first line of chairs. And they were talking with the aliens about projects that they could do jointly. The American generals wanted to pick a couple of Air Force officers for which they were offering me as one of them. They could say, well, we could send them to college and make them an officer. I was in the list of them at the time. And they wanted to put two of them on the deep spacecraft and send them down to the next stop and see what was down there and then come back and tell them. The American, the alien generals didn't feel that that was in there, that they thought that was a waste of time. They thought they wanted was for the American officers and the alien generals to pick a planet, a Nerf-like planet. They said they were several nearby around stars that were nearby. And for their version in nearby could be 10 light years, which were too cold for them to colonize. But from their point of view, would be just perfect for humans that weren't otherwise inhabited. But they described them as being similar to say Illinois or Wisconsin. The aliens liked it way warmer than we do. And their fusion was that they would handle the transport, the ships and that would be in their hands. But once we got there, we'd be in charge of everything on the planet. And all they wanted was for us to build them a base that they could use on their planet, just like they have one here on Earth. And we could do anything we wanted with the rest of the planet. And then they felt it in the course of building that, what they were offering was that whenever our guys needed supplies, they would take them with them to the store, wherever it happened to be. You see, so if our guys needed more supplies, they could either bring them back here to the Earth to get the supplies or to whatever planet was closest, where you could get the appropriate building supplies. And they felt it in that process, humans would learn about their society and they would learn about ours. They thought that was a better deal than merely putting a couple of guys on a spacecraft and tell them to go look at the store. And it showed how the aliens thought, namely that they would agree to anything, provided they saw where they would benefit from it. Okay. Let's see, I'll take that one. Charles, I think I already said it's other circumstances, kind of material. We classify the top secret number or something like that. In effect you're being committed to releases by virtue of no action against you. Seems like it's part of an acquisition for a real part of you, you have any reasons why you think you were about this, without any. The committee that picked me was part of had aliens on it and human generals on it, Air Force generals. And when you make an agreement with the aliens, you keep it. Okay. The consequences of breaking the agreement with the aliens are enormous. When I say they live like 700 years, remember, even though it's been 40 years for us, that's peanuts for them, they live 700 years. If the American generals had the, when they made an agreement with the generals, it wasn't for two weeks or three weeks. It was an agreement period. And if you, if they thought that the US Air Force was breaking its agreements by say, pressuring Charlie, the consequences would be enormous. And it has nothing to do with whether I'm a nice guy or not a nice guy or whether they like me or didn't like me. It's when you make an agreement with the aliens, can you be trusted? And they didn't have to be long suffering. Remember, as I described in my books, each one of them carried those weapons up there asleep. And if you, you like to teach her if an, an American general were to come up to the teacher, she didn't have to ask him questions. They were that electronic communication equipment. They can tell what you're thinking. And if all she's going to do is go see if he did anything that broke the agreement. And if she finds anything in there, she can jerk that, the, the equalizer and have him on his knees. I knew a CIA guard once that was terrified of the teacher. He told me that he had been helping escorting her down the steps of the capital building, one Sunday afternoon. And that she had been talking with US senators. And she was disguised as a human. And he said because he wasn't familiar with the way they walked, as she was coming down the steps, she was wearing low heels, not high heels, but just you know flights. That he thought she was going to trip and fall because he wasn't used to the fact that how they walked him down steps. He said without thinking, he reached out and grabbed her by the elbow to study her, the way you would say, oh lady. And he said she damn your kid part of my language, she almost killed him. She jerked that thing. And before he knew that she had him down in his knees, giving him the, the equivalent of 120,000 volts AC, saying, you think we're fools. You think I'd come down these steps if I couldn't take care of myself. And by the time she finished with him, it was nothing but yes, ma'am, no ma'am. You know. So when I say that when you make an agreement with the aliens, you keep it. And the generals will do anything for technology transfer. Well, you know, here I am. Remember when I came off the branches and conclusion, I didn't bring anything with me. I didn't bring any pictures. I didn't bring any diaries. I didn't bring any blueprint. So I was never part of anything. I was never shown anything classified. I was never given a briefing. I came off with just my memories. Okay. And remember the aliens and conclusion are not in favour of secrecy. It's only the generals that were in favour of secrecy. It was very common for the aliens to, to, to, to, to remark the teacher and those people to remark about how silly the secrecy was. They felt that if they dressed up to look like humans and behave themselves, they ought to be able to go into Las Vegas and chop for pretty dresses. Just like anybody else. Okay. Yeah. Oh, that lady? The CIA, the regular dealers didn't know that. They just knew that the government was coming and they had to stand aside. The CIA guards that were there, and they were not allowed to go into the city. The CIA, the regular dealers didn't know that. They just knew that the government was coming and they had to stand aside. The CIA guards that were there, and the, and the dealers that were there, they weren't told much. They were just told that if these people come in, you know, be nice to them. Okay. One dealer I was talking to, one of the CIA guards that I was talking to when he was dealing. And when he was dealing, and he was looking down like he didn't want, he didn't want anyone to know that he was talking to me because he wasn't spoken. He wasn't forbidden to talk to me. It's just that, you know, the CIA guys are always trying to pretend there's somebody else. You know, and nothing stands out in the crowd fast, or the general and the CIA guard trying to look like an ordinary human. You know, they don't have to do like, you know, another male, the famous idea, you know. And he was saying a group of your people, speaking to me, was saying a group of your people came through Saturday night, last Saturday night. And I said, my people, you know, and he said, yeah, you know the white people, and I said, Well, where did they come from? And he said, see, he said, none of us know anything. You're the only one that knows anything. Okay. All he knew was that he knew me, but they all knew me by face name rank serial number. And they knew that when some people came in, if they, you know, if they issued the normal words, like I was the friend of the teacher or teachers pet, then you're nice to them. And, but they weren't told anymore than they had to be. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. And you'll see in book three, those three ladies that, you know, hand me the book or the head lady hand me the book in my barracks. And the same three ladies that had been wanting to play pool with, you know, bridges in book two. And he couldn't take it. That was their point was to go into the congressional sentence of the Senate. Remember the Senate has that pool room and the basement, who are the senators take bribes? I know they call it something else. They say, let's bet in this pool game and then guess what? The Senator wins or you Andy money, right? You know, let's say, oh, it was just a pool game, right? You know, so, you know, well, that's where they were headed for. You see, to talk to the senators over the pool table, you know, from their point of view, they loved the game of pool. It's how you drive on gravity part and spacecraft is by playing pool with the stars. And, you know, that's a wonderful place to go talk to senators. I don't want to run too long, so I'll take, I'll take these questions here and then I'll call it a day. I'll take each one of you that has your hands and then I'll call it a day. Okay? Let's see, I'll start with the lady in the back. Okay? I can only guess, but you'll notice that in the, you'll notice in my books, I clearly described their technology where they could read my mind and tell what I was thinking in place thoughts in it. As long as they were simple thoughts, and I see this CIA has been working on that ever since 1954, so that's, that's, that's, that's, that's as much as I know. The lady in the back, and, do I think it may be possible that there may be more than one version of fuel? I saw no evidence that they travel in time. Okay? Now, my feeling is that because meteors blast the DNA material all over the solar system and the ones next to it, and vice versa, my feeling is that if you go out and look at life on nearby planets, they did it look like us. One night, one night, one night, one I asked the teacher as I described in book three, what life and other planets looked like, or how humans compared, she said that the humans were unique in our ability to practice to play with animals. She said that on the other, the other, the other planets that they, where they had seen intelligent life, they were all planeteters. She said she was a planeter. Where do the only ones that go out and play with animals? It keeps pets. She said that that was really unique. You know, her example was that I grew up in a farm in Wisconsin. I know how to melt cows, right horses, play with dogs. All those animals could kill me, but I feel comfortable around them because I first decide how was that animal thinking, and she's pointed out how unique that was since humans are more intelligent than those animals. And most intelligent creatures don't want to do that. They don't want to pretend or decide how a less intelligent animal is thinking. So she said on their plan, on most planets, the intelligent creatures began by killing off all the animals because they were planeteters, who needs them, right? And she thought that was really unusual that I was willing to just go make friends with anybody's dog and play with them and teach them to roll over and feed them and pet them on the head. And the implication was that those other intelligent forms of life didn't differ too much from either us humans or her as a tall white. The guy in the back. They understood TIT for TAP. The teacher's example was that if they didn't hurt me, why would I want to hurt them? If they didn't stand in my way, then why would I be afraid of them? They understood that if if I was nice to them, they would be nice to me and vice versa. You see in book one in the chapter entitled, is it for nothing? The day I went out in the sagebrush at Range One and rescued the teacher's daughter who was lost in the sagebrush. And then when I saw that she wasn't human became hysterical and vomited by guts of it in the sagebrush and so on. And you know, got back to the Range One weather shack and left the door and just tried to get back to normal and couldn't. You'll see from their point of view, thank Heaven Charlie was here. They needed to reward me. They understood I did something nice for you. They'll do something nice back. That was as much religion as close to religion as we were able to talk about. And other than that, I'd have to speculate. How about you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They loved you. You see in book one my paint by numbers set. I was so proud. I know Van Gogh is turning over and is great for me to call that art. They took that for me and it was gone for months before they took that to another planet and showed it to somebody before they brought it back to me. They thought that was fine art. You see that's in book one. When you look in their hang in their scout craft hanger that's the North in the Arroyo, North West to Range Four, the day I was in there and I yelled out before before opening the door to the inner hanger. On the walls they had their writing which looks like Egyptian higher glyphs if a guy didn't know better and it's pink against white. Okay. And I'm not sure how much of it was actually writing and how much might have just been artistic design. One night the teacher showed me her little girl, her little girl was wearing the normal suit. But the teacher had sewn a frow or a ruffle around the middle the way a human mother would for her little girl. And the teacher was very proud of it. The teacher used to make fun of the American generals because she used to say well they're all old men and the generals for the commissary up in the mountain would just go out and get like the serious catalog of them and come rewards catalog. And then they would just pick all the medical clothing. The white clothing that nurses and doctors would wear. And that's all it was in the commissary. And she used to make fun of the general, American generals for being old men without any fashion sense. One of the discussions I used to have with them as I described in my books was how much is a pretty dress cost and Las Vegas. And I decided that if they went into the sands and they won a hundred bucks playing blackjack which was peanuts for them because their eyes are better and ours and all the cards look different. Then they could go across the street to a shopping center that was open to midnight and have a nice selection of dresses that she and the other women could buy. And I'm certainly did that. One of my friends, his wife worked in that shopping center. She used to tell the funny is true story about how to 11 o'clock at night the script of ladies came in and one stood in front of her and wouldn't let her do anything. She would often look to dresses and in her own words she said it looked like they'd never seen a dress before. You know, the first time they got shopping. And so yeah, they like art and music just like we do. I'll take the lady with the long hair. Okay. Yeah, I come back to the house with some of my brothers. And my parents were doing strange and foreign state government for a lot to do for a few months. And we know that it's now she's by the technical needs of her son. I have a feeling that there's a lot more involved in the house side. And I think that is a kind of a large number of now. Yes, yes. The man in the blue shirt. I was curious about the things that they found that happened after the night they were doing the money she knew. But I don't know, but they clearly love their parents and their children. And you know, that is one of the, you know, you know, my like on my father died. I'm Roman Catholic. It was very comforting to me to be able to go and pray, knowing that his soul was still alive and in heaven somewhere. I presume they're the same way, but I can only guess. Any question in the back? You have any question like the life of just the life of the life today? No, but that's their choice. See, if I were out like in the desert or if I were out like in Mount Charleston or from Fale, because those were all places I saw them up in Wheeler Pass. So they came, you know, after they've come across what 50, 100 light years of space, they're not going to be confined to 36 acres of rock out in the mountains. And if I were to come across one, I would still be living by the same agreement. Namely, if I saw when I would just stop and where I was and stand quietly with my arms at my side and let them come as close as they wanted or leave, I wouldn't pursue. And if they came too close, then I would back away and expect them to not pursue to just stay where they were. But I would still live by the same agreement. But I protect you right now, right? I mean, I protect you right now, that's why you can talk. They know what you're doing all the time. But I'm like, you monitored, be recorded. I don't feel, I don't feel a monitorter protected. Right. But once they made that agreement with the US Air Force, So that you have to think of that thing, you know? That thing's happening or how else would they know? Well, in order for me to say anything, I'd have to speculate, but I don't feel monitored or I don't feel protected. I just feel like a guy, you know? Just go my way into my thing, you know? But then how would I know, right? If you're good enough at it, I mean, I'm very religious. I have my two-guard and angel, so I can't everyone. And I pray to God as long as he sees fit to protect me. I am, and if he doesn't, I won't, you know? Other than that, all I can say is, I just have to be the person God made. You know? I am with anyone, I am, and that's all I am. Any more questions? I know I'm way over in my time. And, okay. One, was that a question back there? Yeah. So, let's go if you find a little, would you? So, what do you think about the aware of it? What is blind and the other thing that has general show up? What is it? What? What? The tall whites were per, as I described in book one, in the tall whites were using their electronic equipment, were perfectly capable of putting images in your mind, if you were relaxed and calm, once you panic, then all bets were off. And, and that story, I didn't see any reason to doubt that story. The tall whites themselves, when you went on board their skull craft, for example, there weren't any screens. There weren't any television screens, there weren't any computer screens. There are eyes like those of a cat. And so, I don't, you know, when we look at a television set, we see the moving pictures. I don't believe that they see the moving picture because they're vision is so good. You see? I believe that instead, their communication equipment just puts the image directly in their mind and doesn't mind a mind. If they showed up without their communication equipment and if none of their people had learned to speak English, which sometimes happened, especially in a number of episodes that I haven't published in my books, you were simply down to hand signals. And because I'm late on time, I won't go into some of those. But, you know, as you see, I have my desk, my table, my books, and I'm always happy to answer questions and talk afterwards. But, if they didn't have the equipment, they weren't telepathic. If they didn't speak English and they didn't show up with their equipment, you're physically down to pointing in gestures. And the other questions? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My last direct communication with them was, however, in the Nellacensiton of 1968, September 1968, I got out of the service in May of 1968. In the Nellacensiton, remember the tall whites set down with the scalp craft, a half mile from the Range Street Weather Shack. And you see the guy after me got attacked and then they wouldn't send anybody.