4-Hour Witness UFO Speeds and Government Secrecy

I'm on radar, start picking up items going 3,000 miles an hour in this area. But I do remember speeds and excess of 4,000 miles an hour. And each said it was traveling 10,000 miles plus. And they were going somewhere in the neighborhood of 11 to 14,000 miles an hour. They covered the distance from Columbus to Detroit and something like a equivalent of about 20,000 miles an hour. It's not an infrequent occurrence out there. They haven't quite often. They were probably 1,500 reported cases at that time. I have over 3,000 cases now. They estimated 100 yards from the left wing was this 100 foot disc. And the strength of the segment was as strong as a surface contact on the water of an aircraft carrier. This contact was huge. The size of these objects around 100 meters or greater. So it would go from 1 to clock, 7 or 8 miles to 6, 7 or clock, 7 or 8 miles inside of 4,5 seconds. You have to be moving pretty quickly. They could rise, just go straight up. They could do that, just seem like ants and tannies. What they started moving, they went straight up, you know, for a while, and then they went Z. And it just sort of disappeared, dematerialized. And left the atmosphere, just was gone. Just took off into space. It just left at high speed. He said, you are never to speak of this again. As far as you are concerned, this never happened. And you never saw this. I don't exist in this situation ever happened. I didn't want to look at it any longer than that because I felt that my life was in jeopardy. So I was beaten, literally hitting in the ribs, and pushed, and I was resisting. And I know Sergeant Bistenza was doing the same thing. This has been taken by agencies to terminate people who are prepared to be in the trouble some through nine to much. Whatever activity is going on to the extent that it is a candleston group, a quasi-government group, a quasi-private group. It is without any type as far as I can tell of high level government oversight. And that is a great concern. A shadowy government with its own air force, its own navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interests, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. We have contact with aliens, not originating from some foreign country, but from some other solar system, and I have been a party to that. My name is Dr. Stephen Greer. I am the director of the Disclosure Project, which is a project of the Center for the Study of Extrotrestrial Intelligence. This is a project which we have been working on since 1992. And during this time, we have identified over 400 military intelligence and corporate witnesses to special access projects within the United States and elsewhere that deal with what the public has called UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and advanced energy and propulsion systems. The purpose of this executive briefing is to put together some of this witness testimony. I want to emphasize that out of the over 400 witnesses whom we have identified that we have interviewed today on camera approximately 100 of those 120 hours of videotape have been created of testimony from these witnesses. This executive summary can only contain a very small tip of the iceberg, less than one half of one percent of the possible testimony which we have. It will give you an idea of the extent of the knowledge of these men and women who have come forward heroically to tell the world, to tell our elected representatives and our scientists, the truth about a subject which has been the subject of much ridicule, fantasy, and speculation for over 50 years. We will present three essential areas. Number one, what is the evidence? What is the testimony support? What is the case file support? What do the government document support? We will also then move on to something a little more difficult to explain and that is the mechanism for secrecy. How has something of this import been kept secret from our representatives and how has it been kept off the national and international radar screen effectively for over 50 years? Without understanding this, the evidence itself has no foundation because any rational person will conclude that this couldn't be true or we would know about it. That the government's leaks secrets like a sieve and that indeed if any of this were true, many of the people in society and high places in our government would know about it when in fact they do not. So the secrecy around this issue which has been extraordinary must also be explained and it will be. And the third component is the why? Why has it been kept secret? What are the implications? I will remind you that a very conservative Republican to turn president and five star general Dwight Eisenhower said that we should be careful of the excesses of the military industrial complex. We now have learned and you will hear testimony to this effect that one of his chief concerns were that special access projects within the military and intelligence sector dealing with this subject. We are escaping the legal constitutional oversight of the American Congress and indeed of the American presidency. He stated this in January of 1961. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwanted influence, whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination in danger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper maching of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful, methods and goals. Eisenhower's warning has really come full circle to this date where we now see extraordinary funds being put into projects and being withheld from the American public, which if released could give us indeed an entirely new and sustainable civilization. These propulsion and energy systems used for peaceful purposes would enable the world to get off of its dependency of fossil fuels, oil and the internal combustion engine and have a truly non-polluting sustainable civilization for thousands of years. The implications of this statement cannot be overstated. We are really talking about the ability of our civilization to move within a generation from a world which is facing environmental collapse, oil shortages, rolling blackouts in some of our states and eventually growing world tension over a shrinking oil supply while demand skyrocket over the next 10 to 20 years. That grim scenario can easily be replaced by the declassification and peaceful application of these technologies. In addition to this, we have to consider what the risks are if we do nothing. The technologies which are in compartmented secret programs that have been derived from studying extraterrestrial technologies as well as human innovations, which still directly with energy generation and propulsion systems are technologies which would enable the entire planet to begin to work in an integrated function and in a way that does not lead to greater and greater spiraling gaps between the rich and the poor. Beyond this, there is something of even greater concern. One of the witnesses whom you will hear from is a person who worked directly with Werner von Brown, the very famous rocket scientist and space explorer who warned on his deathbed that there were people planning to put weapons in space or to have space effective weapons systems which would be used in a hoax scenario from a threat, a hoaxed threat that would be of extraterrestrial origin. There is no evidence that we are under any threat from any civilization from outside our solar system or within our solar system. However, there is a lot of evidence from this testimony that there are people who are deliberately trying to weaponize space under the guise of many situations which are really hoaxed scenarios. This is dangerous because if we are not alone in the universe, we cannot view space as our own private domain for homosapiens. We must view space as a frontier which must be shared peacefully with diverse life forms from throughout the universe. One of the points I would like to make also about these cases is that we must accept the testimony of all of these witnesses. The reason we must is that if we begin to dismiss dozens of military intelligence officers, corporate officials, as well as people within other walks of life who have professional credentials, they are testimony on this issue. Then it brings into question how we view witness testimony on many other things. If we use that same standard, every murder conviction in the United States should be overturned which has been based on witness testimony. He would also, as a monsoon, you are about to achieve at the Vatican, has pointed out to us throughout the entire Bible. Since that is almost totally based on witness testimony of the people who wrote down the accounts during the times of Christ and his predecessors. And in the end, this is based on human witness testimonies. And how do we know that this Gospel is from that man and this Gospel is from this man that is true. And the testimony and the way this is of those people. How cool. The body shield. The law of the last testimony. If you start taking apart and destroying the value of human witness testimony. The consequences of the man who got into the Bible, the consequences are great tremendous, especially for Christian religion. I should emphasize that this human testimony is key. And in a sense it's more important than any physical evidence because it is multiple, it is corroborating, and it can not be tossed out in a Cavalier fashion. We should be very careful that we do not ignore this testimony because the testimony of these men and women serves as a significant body of evidence with corroboration of photographs and other government documents. To introduce this part of the video tape, which deals specifically with pilots, radar cases, cases that involved telemetry and related technologies, I wish to emphasize that for decades, people who have been skeptical of this subject have claimed that if these objects were real, they would have been tracked on radar. We have no fewer than 20 witnesses from the Air Force, the Marines, the Navy, the Army, as well as civilian authorities in the United States and abroad who are qualified, air traffic controllers and pilots who have seen these objects on radar. Please note that these people absolutely will say state that these have not been weathered balloons, they have not been air inversions, they have not been swamped gas, they have been structured craft, traveling at thousands of miles per hour, then suddenly stopping, hovering, or moving in a non-linear fashion, where these objects have been tracked and going from one spot to 500 miles away or further within one radar sweep. Commander Graham Bethoon piloted his plane across the North Atlantic in 1951. The testimony you will hear is important and significant for a number of reasons. The object was very close. It was in 1951 and was tracked on radar, moving at 1800 miles per hour, a speed which no craft in the world could move at that time. In those speeds. Additionally, we've been able to locate his co-pilot as well as documents from the government of his official debris phenomenon report, which was made by the Navy and the military at that time. The flight was normally about 10 hours, but that night we had a 60-not win. And it was a head win. And about maybe 300 to 400 miles outside of Keflavic, I mean out of our Genshin, I'm sorry. I saw something below the horizon on the water that looked like approaching a city at night. It was just kind of an ambient light, no definition whatsoever, but the same thing that you would see if you were approaching a large city at night. All of a sudden we saw on the water a yellow halo that was very, very small about 15 miles away. And it came up to 10,000 feet like that, that fraction of a second. And I thought it was going to go right through us. And I disengaged the autopot, pushing those over because I was going to go on it, it to angle, it was coming toward me. So what happened, the minute that I did that, it was up at our altitude and I could see nothing outside of the cockpit, but this craft. And so I didn't know which way to go. And all of a sudden I heard a racket, I didn't know what it was. I said, Fred, what the hell was that? He looked ready and he said, oh, he said, everyone was ducking in the back of us and he clotted and he all lay him a duck back there, scramming on the day. So when I looked back, it wasn't there. And he says, it's over here on the right hand side. Now, it was about a mile or so away on a right hand side. It kind of drifted forward, maybe to a position, maybe five miles away. And that's where it stayed with us for quite some time. This is when we could first see, it wasn't above our altitude. It was below our altitude, but there's still above the horizon where you could see the side of the craft, you could see the dome, and you could see the color around the perimeter of the craft. And then we knew that it was a friendly encounter. It said, doc, did you see what we saw? And he says, yeah, he says, you're letting me straighten you out, he says, yeah, he says it was a flying saucer. So I went back forward and I said, down, what have you do? Don't tell anybody we saw anything. A lot of those episodes would be going around. He said, it's too late. He says, I just called Gander to control to see if they could track this by radar. So that's how the, the, the, it got out. So when we landed at our Gensia, the Air Force was there and they interrogated us and the captain that did the interrogation did a real good job, but you could tell that this wasn't his first time that he'd ever interrogated anybody as far as the scrap of the front. When that question was asked, it was 300 feet. It came in my mind. And when I got to report out of the archives in 1991, I'd never seen anybody else as report. Everyone had been in where I'm 250 to 350 feet in diameter. Now the velocity when it left us was estimated from between 8 between 1000 miles an hour to 2000 miles an hour. And when I looked to report, Al Jones, it was estimated, 1800 miles an hour. Mine was a thousand and another one was 1500 miles an hour in that range. It turns out that the radar report, which I've never seen, said it was 1800 miles an hour. So the other plane commander was sitting in the seat, took my seat. He, he, had hit it right on an nose. Now my boss, it's another thing. When he found the report in the archives in the Wright Patterson and Project Blue Book and talking to the, with Colonel Watson, when he came back to me, he gave me the speed of 18 hours. I was like, where did you find that out? And he said, well, it was a radar report. It said that. The document today found was the official document that the Air Force had put together different sources that came to them. And it was originally, it was under Project Grudge, you can see in their written project Grudge. But on the, the front page says Project Twinkle. Now this is where they put a lot of ones that they had to get rid of somehow. It was Project Twinkle. So it, it was in Project Blue Book and Project Grudge and what other Project I don't know was in. Michael Smith was an air traffic controller with the Air Force, both in Oregon as well as subsequently in Michigan. At both these facilities, he witnessed UFOs tracked on radar, moving in extraordinary speeds. And he also confirms that NORAD, the North American Air Defense Command, was fully apprised of these events. And in fact, in one of these events in Michigan was engaged in Steered B-52s returning to a base around the UFOs, which were at low altitude and were intersecting the flight path of these B-52s. This man has a very good career and he has documented his placement of these facilities at the time that these events occurred. It establishes the physical realities of objects. And also, I should note, the fact that NORAD has been involved. This is of some significance, since we have learned that President Clinton, ex-president Clinton, had asked Webster Hubble when he was 30-minute justice to look into the UFO issue. And when Webster Hubble and others made inquiries to NORAD, they denied any knowledge of these objects. This is serious because if these senior covert projects are lying to directed inquiries from the President of the United States, this constitutes a serious breach in our chain of command. In spring of 1970, while I was stationed in Klamath Falls, Oregon, I came up to the radar site and evening shift and were there's normally two or three people in the radar room. There was quite a few from the cooks to the maintenance of all kinds of people. And I asked what was going on and they said that there's watching a UFO and I immediately was stunned and they asked if the Pentagon was notified, somebody called the President or they said, no, they don't do that. It was stationary. Wasn't moving at all and it would slowly lower itself down until it got behind a mountain so that your lost radar contact. It would stay down for about 15 minutes and the next thing it was right back up there. It was up in the 80-90 thousand feet. And then the next sweep of the radar scope, it would be 200 miles away stationary, completely stopped. And I said, well, we should call the news media or call somebody, this is earth shaking news. And to me, any said, no, I'm just calm down. Norhead knows about the call of Norhead and that's when the senior in CEO pulled me to the side and said that Norhead knows about it. That's the only people we know to find. We don't talk about this. We don't tell anybody about this. The people know, no. And we just watch COA happens and that's it. And I insisted though there has to be a report filed or something filed. And then you said, well, that there is a report that you can file. It's about an inch thick. And the first two pages is about the sighting. The rest of it is basically a psychological profile of you, your family, you know, where your bloodlines, everything. So when the airport goes through it, they can discredit you completely by either saying that, you know, he was on drugs, your mother was a communist or anything to discredit you. And you never get a promotion. And I'd spend the next three and a half years up at the North Pole, living in the tent checking weather balloons. My second encounter was while I was stationed in the Su-Saint Marie, Michigan. It was in 1972. I was working along that night when I got a phone call from the switchboard operator. He said he had the state police on the phone. He wanted to talk to me. He was real frantic. He only got on the phone and said that there's three UFOs over the North Tower, the Mac and all bridge. So I immediately, you know, turn down the radar. When they asked if I had to unradar, I told them no. It's more of a program of response, thinking back to the claim of falls, or you're told, you don't talk about it, you don't write it down, you don't discuss it. And in the meantime, I called Noran and told them and they looked at them, they looked it up and they said, oh, it's coming up. They're going up by 75 and I've just said yes, it's about 70, 80 miles an hour. Now about halfway between St. Vegas and Sus Saint Maria, there's a Kinselor air force space, which is a sack base. They have B52 bombers. They had two apparently that were on final approach. And that crosses I 75. And so apparently they diverted those two bombers because they didn't want, you know, if they have nuclear weapons or not, but they didn't want to take a chance on them meeting UFOs about the same altitude across the highway. So they diverted the two B52s. It was a real eye opener, how deep the secrecy goes, how deep the cover up is. On Rikke Colbick is a senior air traffic controller at Mexico City International Airport. He testifies that up to the current day, that these objects are tracked on radar at Mexico City International, moving at extraordinary speeds. And at times as many as 12 to 15 of them have been seen on radar at the same time, they were being visually seen by pilots and in one case photographed by civilians. He also states that one event involved 32 air traffic controllers who saw the same event. These are train professionals in a very busy international airport. We have registered information about the 12 or 12 or 15 acres at the same time. A lot of pilots in reports when in me that they have an an aciding. Do you have problems with his instruments? Instruments of flight, precisely the electronic instruments. The pilots reports the size of these objects around 100 meters or greater. Our radar, at the same time, like in other radar and the war, tells him to detect light. Only objects, solid objects flying. That is very important. We have an attu mexican aircraft flying bound to the coming from the north to the airport. Flying to to land. When one of them reports to have inside and a small object of red color, flying fasted and passing beside him very very fast. The aircraft that was flying behind of the first reports to have another war inside and they have a visual contact with these three different objects, a different color was with red and the other two white. Around 32 controllers have the same sight, the same phenomenal inside. This kind of phenomenal appears. Sometimes 12 times at day 12 times at the moment or at the week. This phenomenal of course does not come with a flight plane. Nobody knows nothing about them appears when they wants to appear. Chuck Sorrell is a career air force military man. Who is that Edwards Air Force base in 1961? When not won but at least 7 UFOs were Edwards Air Force Base airspace. Moving in extraordinary nonlinear fashion at enormous speeds making right hand turns and other maneuvers which no known aircraft could do. They were on radar, they were seen visually, and a special UFO officer scrambled and authorized a jet to intercept these objects. They were present between 130 AM and dawn, meaning that this event lasted for five or six hours. About 130 or so in the morning. I noticed this real bright light to the east of my field. It was kind of a light green. I would describe it and had a red light underneath it. The red light wasn't actually a flashing light. It was pulsating. Probably a better description of it. Red underneath. And had a white light on top. It just glowed. I had one of the attachment guys from the interceptor detachment that was on the base there. And the captain down there got him a boy and got him to go out and look at it. What is that? We talked about it for a while. Wrap-con people that's radar people that on the base they didn't have any aircraft near it at the time. We got called it down to the air defense people that all signs are defense actors. The director down there decided he got to travel around his site. And at one point in time they had at least four different radar sites that were getting radar returns on the same. And then all of a sudden there's like three more objects. And they had similar characteristics for the lighting is concerned. But these three stayed like together. They stayed like I don't know if they were formation or what it was. But anyway these three stayed together. And then they stayed there for a little bit and they moved down to the south of me and set for the set there station air well. And then a little bit later on there's three more appears. But these three are individuals. And so at this point I had like seven of them. This goes back and forth and back and forth for oh I don't know, two or three hours. And they finally decided to scramble an aircraft on it to go up and take a look at it. And this was coordinated with the other higher headquarters and I think no red was involved nearby. Well about three different times. He was able to use a contact. And that contact means he had contact with something in his only radar into the aircraft. But these these objects played around there for the remainder of the machine. And they just disappeared into the atmosphere. I know a lot of things just was not. I know it was not a helicopter. I know it was not an airplane. I know it was not a balloon. A weather blender any other type of plane. And I know it was no no an aircraft flying object that we know of today or at that time. And it wasn't a laser show. It wasn't anything like that. But they could move real fast. They could move from the east. They could be the east of my field. And and it just a short period of time they could be to the west. They could be they could probably go 30 or 40 miles and time you snap your fingers to what I mean. I mean just fast. Colonel Charles Brown is a career Air Force officer, a hero of World War II, and worked specifically in Project Grudge. This is a project which for many people didn't really exist. But it did. And his testimony not only proves it's existence, but also he will state and you will hear how the project had definitive cases and evidence cases that involved ground radar, air radar, air visual and ground visual all at the same time in the same event. And as he said it doesn't get any better than that. Basically because of my counter intelligence training and police work in an outfit called Office of Special Investigations. Since I had one of the few pilot trained investigators, ended up investing doing a lot of investigations of aircraft, unusual aircraft accidents, and was sabotored with suspected. And as a consequence, became a quantitative with some outstanding scientist and worked with the Air Technical Intelligence Center on a project called Grudge. At that time, Office of Special Investigations was a worldwide investigative unit in the Air Force and given a responsibility investigating what became known as undidentified flying objects. And my job was to hand carry these reports over to the technical center and coordinate them with the project officer, answer any questions from an investigation you pointed I could assist on. Some of the object reported were tracked on radar. We had objects with four-way confirmation, ground visual, ground radar, airborne visual, airborne radar. And so far as I'm concerned, it don't get no better than that. I do remember speeds and access a four to five thousand miles an hour, which were far in excess of any known aircraft that we had or any of the enemies. There are no question I've seen radar photographs of organized flights, abundant-identified objects, balls of light, if you will. And these were on radar, ground, visual, ground radar, airborne visual, airborne radar. Now the airborne visual strangely enough, but the time to get a couple of fighters down there, those things apparently disappeared when ever they wanted to. Mr. John Callahan is a senior FAA official. He was third or fourth down from the top of the FAA, underneath Admiral Ingram. At the time in 1986, that a major UFO event happened over Alaska. He will state that these objects were indeed on radar, that they were tracked, moving in extraordinary non-linear fashion, and it speeds unattainable by any conventional propulsion system. And that the CIA at a meeting with the Admiral who headed up the FAA and the science advisors for President Reagan. At the end of the briefing, took all the evidence and said, quote, this meeting never happened, this event never happened and we were never here. I wish to emphasize that John Callahan is one of those senior government officials that people are always asking about. Where are they? Why don't they come forward? Mr. Callahan has come forward and his testimony is definitive. In addition to John Callahan's testimony, we have an enormous amount of material, which he had kept from his days at the FAA as a senior official there. These include the pilots report of the encounter, the actual videotape of the radar tracing, the FAA report was generated in transcripts of the air traffic controller talking to the Japan Air Line 747 captain, a military pilot as well as subsequently a United Airlines pilot. The way it started was the 747, the Japanese airline 747 was coming from the Northwest, going across the Alaskan territory. He was at the 31, 33, 35,000 feet. It was, I want to say, I'll live a clock at night, but you can check them all the time. He called and asked the controller if the controller had any traffic at his altitude. And the controller said, no, basically it was a midnight operation, they didn't have too much traffic. And he said, well, something like I have a target at my 11 o'clock, one o'clock position, about 8 miles. Now, in the 747, they have radar and the nose that picks up the weather outside there. So his radar is picking up a target. He sees this target with his eye and the target the way he described it, was a huge ball with the lights running around it. And I think he said it was like four times as big as the 747. Well, when they read the reports that come through, the FAA asked to protect themselves, so you can't say, you saw a target, even though this is what he said. So they made him change his report to position symbols, which makes it sound like it wasn't really a target. The military controller has what they call height finding radar and they have long range radar and short range radar. So if they don't catch it on one of their systems, they catch it on the other. And if you listen to the military man, at one time he said, I have it on the height radar or my range radar, whatever you call it, which indicated that he had a target on his system. The Japanese pilot would say he's now 11 o'clock. He's not. One o'clock is now at 3 o'clock. He was bouncing around this guy here and when he would say that, the military guy would cut in and say he's now at 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock and he would confirm the position. So it would go from one o'clock, seven or eight miles to six, seven o'clock, seven or eight miles inside of four or five seconds, you have to be moving pretty quickly. When it was all done, and we went back to Washington next day. The administrator had called on and wanted to know if he had a problem or not. And my boss had told him, we took a video of it and it looks like they might have been something there. The administrator, which was hanging at the time, had rolling. He said, well, if you got the video with you, can you show me the video? And I said, yeah, he's plugged it in and played it. So we plugged it in for him. He started watching it and after about five minutes, he told us staff, I can't say my, you know, meeting with someone in 15 minutes. He said, first he said, I'll be late. And the next it was a can't of him. And then I'm going to be here to listen to the bus. So you watch the whole thing just over half an hour. Well, if you were in the lead of the admiral calls down and says, I set up a briefing tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock when it was. And the round room bring all the stuff you have, bring everybody up there and give them whatever they want. And we want to get out of it, just let them do whatever they want to do with it. They brought in three people from the FBI, three people from the CIA and three people from Reagan's scientific study team and I don't know who the rest of the people were. But they were all excited. When they got done, they actually swore all these other guys into the, the, the, the Sneptick Place. We never had this meeting and this was never recorded. He said, this the first time they ever had 30 minutes of radar data on a UFO. And they're all itching to get the hands at the data and to find out what it is and what really goes. And if they come out and told the American public that they ran into a UFO out there, it would cause panic across the country. So if we can't talk about it and they're taking all this data. So I said, okay, take all that data. That's what you want. But they took only what we had there. They didn't ask me if there was anything else that I had. They said they can all this data. And I said, fine. Now I had the original video that I took. And I had the pilots report that came through the first report and I had the FAA's first report that was all downstairs and my, my table. They didn't ask for that. So I didn't give it to them. When they asked me what I thought, I told them that it looked like we had a UFO that was up there. The reason it wasn't on the FAA's tapes was because it was too large of an aircraft and it was picked up as weather. So we wouldn't record it. That the pilot, the Japanese pilot, seen it. The Japanese pilot drew pictures of it. Eventually they gave the Japanese pilot a high time because of what he said he was embarrassing his country. Our military controllers said they seen it. Our FAA controllers said they seen it. Our FAA controllers after a period of time came back and said they really didn't see a target. They saw something else which makes it sound like somebody is helping them fill the reports and therefore that looks suspicious. My guess is because of the way it was, it's not part of the military's operation anymore. That it was a UFO. But who do you tell that you were involved in a UFO incident without them looking at you like you ate wrapped too tight? Captain Kenju Teruqi was piloting a Boeing 747, Japan Airlines from Paris France to Tokyo over the Polar Out. And I interviewed him by phone. I've been the only civilian to interview this gentleman. After he and his crew had a major sighting over Northern Alaska on their way to Anchorage to land for refueling. And as a result of following the rules which he did, making a report out, landing safely, delivering the cargo being a good pilot, Japan Airlines asked him to not fly anymore. I have over 3,000 cases now. A certain proportion are certainly historical that I've not interviewed myself because in some of them they're so old I wasn't even alive. It wasn't born yet. And many of them come from project blue book which is the official Air Force study of the subject. And I would say in half of the cases at least the phenomenon appears to approach the airplane, not the other way around. It's as if the aircraft is the focus of attention or curiosity by me use that word of the phenomenon. That the pilot's flying along minding his own business and something comes up alongside one wing for 15 minutes at cruise altitude, cruise speed and then sometimes will flip over to the other wing or stay right at the nose of the aircraft and then do barrel rolls along the flight axis. Some very interesting maneuvers. I could say that at least in the non-black programs we could not do what these objects were reported as doing. As a result of this review of my aircat files, I found a number of cases back in the 60s for instance when the Air Force was still heavily involved in this subject where they stepped in and interrogated, interviewed less use the word, commercial pilots, not just their own military pilots but commercial pilots. And ended the interview by saying you're not to tell anybody about what you saw. I got off duty one night at midnight and went to bed and I was a call and told to come fix the radar there was something wrong with it. And so when I got up to CIC and I asked them what the problem was, they said, well we're tracking an aircraft here at 3,400 miles an hour. And that's a well there is something wrong. So I took that radar offline, put the standby radar online and went to work and I started running all the tests and everything was normal. So as a result of talking with and I said, I can't find anything wrong with the radar but there was clearly they had clear plots and they told me it was an absolute stellar contact because you usually get the size of the blips usually do with either the size of the contact or the shape something and this was a bliped it was better than a half inch across which indicated a really large target or something very close. So I asked the duty officer if he was going to report it and he said no and I said why not and he said well, he says you've just told me there's nothing wrong with the radar. You run all the checks you can run there's nothing wrong with the radar. We know we track the thing if we report it and Colorado Springs is going to ask us what's wrong with our equipment and you've already said there's nothing wrong so you and I then have a problem. We both are in trouble. We got to come up with a story and he says I'm not going to report it. It was one contact that was it. So one night I was on the plot board this was maybe three or four months later and here comes this contact and the second blip you could see that this thing was moving. It was moving like three or four inches on a 360 mile scale and so sure enough I plotted it and it was 3,300 I mean 3,400 miles an hour and again we didn't report it but they says there's nothing wrong this is our friend back and the way we went and nobody thought anything about it. It was interesting we didn't make a big deal out of it but we sure like to know what that was. It happened at least three more times that I had radar operator friends that would tell me well we had another one of those fast ones last night. And I was flying a flight from San Francisco to Boston in DC 10 and we were about halfway between Buffalo and Albany at 37,000 feet. All of a sudden the airplane started it was on autopilot. The airplane started it about a 15 degree bank turn to the left and of course I looked out the window to automatically that's what you do when the airplane starts to turn and I saw this brilliant light off. It's hard to tell exactly how far out it is but it was very, very bright. And the first officer saw it and the second officer got out of his seat, took a look about that time the first officer hit the autopilot released button and went back to manual control and as I was looking out the window why this this thing that we had vision this thing that we saw disappeared back towards the left of the airplane and to our rear had a very rapid rate this next section of the video of this briefing tape is regarding the strategic air command and nuclear facilities. I wish to emphasize that the witnesses we have here again are from diverse services they range from the atomic energy commission to people who have been at strategic air command facilities and at missile launch control facilities throughout the United States and Canada. These witnesses give unmistakably clear testimony about the fact that these extraterrestrial vehicles appear to be quite concerned with our weapons of mass destruction and in fact more than one of these witnesses has stated to me that they believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles were there because they were very concerned that we might blow ourselves up or that we might begin to go into space and be a threat perhaps someday to other civilizations. Professor Robert Jacobs as a respected professor at a major United States University who back in the 1960s was in the United States Air Force assigned to abandon bird air force space. His testimony is corroborated by letters and documents we have from his commanding officer Florence Manzman this man was present when a special photographic array photographed a testing of an intercontinental ballistic missile and as it reached subspace this missile was intercepted by one of these extraterrestrial vehicles and was rendered inert. This was on film the film was confiscated they were told to be quiet about it and the specific frames dealing with the UFO encounter with this missile were cut out by intelligence officers and were never seen again. Again this witness who has tremendous credibility has corroboration from a now deceased senior military officer and subsequently a professor at Stanford University Florence Manzman. They counted down the missile we heard engine ignition lift off when the missile was underway and we were looking down south of south west and the missile popped up through the fog. It was just beautiful and I thought there it is. Our guys on our M45 tracking mount with 180 inch lens is on it got it and the big VU telescope swung over and got it and we followed the thing and sure enough we could see all three stages of power flight as they burned out and dropped away. And then of course to our naked eye always thought it was a smoke trail going off into subspace as it headed off towards its target which was any we talk island and we talk at all. So we what we hadn't shouted and heard the film wrap off in the in the the the B U telescope and figured well that was our first big deal we got it. We sent the film back down to to Vanneburg and I don't know exactly how long it was after the event it might have been a day or two. I was called into major major manzmanz office at the first strategic aerospace division headquarters and I walked into his office and they had a screen and a 16 millimeter projector set up and there was a couch and major manzmanz said sit down and there were two guys as I recall two guys in gray suits civilian clothes which was fairly unusual and major manzmanz said watch this and turned on the film projector and I watched the screen and there was the watch from the day or two before it had to have a big circle. It was quite exciting because of the length of the telescope as the Atlas missile entered the frame we could see the whole third stage which has two rocket nozzles like this and one in the center, a gimbaled one in the center, fill in our frame from a hundred and about 160 miles that was pretty exciting optics. We watched that stage burn out we watched a second stage burn out we watched a third stage burn out and into the frame came something else. It flew into the frame like this and it shot a beam of light at the warhead which is represented by my thumb here. Remember all this stuff is flying at several thousand miles an hour so this thing fires a beam of light at the warhead hits it and then this thing flies up like this meanwhile we're all going like this fires another beam of light goes around like this we're going like this fires another beam of light goes down like this fires another beam of light and then flies out the way it came in and the warhead tumbles out of the outer space. The object the points of light that we saw the warhead and so forth were traveling through subspace about 60 miles straight up and they were going somewhere in the neighborhood of 11 to 14 thousand miles an hour when this thing caught up to them flew in, flew around and went like this and flew back out everything was going about 21 to 11 and 14 thousand miles an hour that way. Now when the lights came on major management turned around it looked at me and said were you guys screwing around up there and I said no sir and he said what was that and I said it looks to me like we got a UFO. Major management who's a very good reader of film said that the feeling at the time was that it must have been extra terrestrial that they assumed that the beam of light that struck the warhead the dummy warhead was some sort of plasma beam because it looked like a plasma beam. He said what happened is this they took the film and they spooled off the part that had the UFO on it and they took a pair of scissors and cut it off. They put that on a separate reel, they put it in their briefcase, they handed major management back the rest of the film and said here I don't need to remind you major management of the severity of the security breach we'll consider this incident close. Colonel Ross Dietrichson had an illustrious career with the Air Force which was followed by many years of service with the Atomic Energy Commission. During those years with the Atomic Energy he learned of specific incidents not just one but many where these UFOs were over weapon storage areas nuclear manufacturing facilities as well as intercontinental ballistic missile sites. He also testifies that he learned specifically that we were planning to demonstrate our power to the Soviets by placing a nuclear missile on the moon and exploding it there and that this missile was intercepted by extraterrestrial vehicles as it left Earth's Atmosphere. This man has had a tremendous career and we have documentation of his assignment not only in the Air Force but at the Atomic Energy Commission. He is an elderly gentleman who is coming forward because he thinks this should be known by the world. This is July 1952 and of course during that period of time I made a lot of contacts. I was a staff officer for the military liaison committee between the chairman of the ATC and the Secretary of Defense. And so it became acquainted with not only the Army Navy and Air Force but civilian agencies the CIA, the National Security Agency and other contacts which I developed. During that period of time one of my functions was to come a security team which visited all of the nuclear facilities to check on the security weapons and we were getting reports of visits by UFOs over the storage facilities and even some of the manufacturing facilities. Later I was assigned to the San Diego Corporation as a military liaison and I was involved in the established and the Quality Assurance Program for the Manufacturer and the Quality and the Maintenance of the Nuclear Reference. So we had to visit all of the Manufacturing facilities as such as Iraqi Frats and the Pantext Facility which assembled the Nuclear and the Nuclear Components of the weapons. So there again we observed the UFOs were very much interested in the facilities that we were visiting. Almost almost cases where the UFOs became identified at least on a radar or reports why they were tried to scramble aircraft to intercept them. It was a very aggressive human rights response from our own government. Then I was assigned to the Unified Pacific Command under Admiral Felt during the 60s and I was the officer in charge of the alternate command post involved in nuclear weapon operation planning and during this period of time I also learned of a number of incidents which happened a couple of nuclear weapons that were sent into space reduced to right by the extraterrestrials. Our government sent a nuclear weapon for explosion on the moon's surface. It was tended to as I understand it to assess some scientific data and reactioners over it. The idea of any explosion in space by any Earth's government was not acceptable to the extraterrestrials and that has been demonstrated over and over. And then further on I would finally retired from the Air Force and joined the Boeing Company where I was assigned to the Minimum Program where I was responsible for the configuration accounting of all the nuclear fleet of Minimum and one, two and three. And during that period of time I also learned about incidents involving nuclear weapons. The one incident for example was they actually photographed the UFO following the missile as it climbed into space and shining a beam on it which neutralized the missile and this was recorded. It was all hushed up. They split up the team nerves or a route but of course eventually the news came out and it was ready to publish confirmed it. Lieutenant Colonel Arne Arneson was present at a strategic air command facility when one of these objects on radar was seen. He also learned that the intercontinental ballistic missiles were rendered inert during this and a related encounter. His testimony is corroborated by another military official Robert Salas who is present also at Monsterm Air Force Base during an extraordinary event. The testimony of these two men as well as the supporting documentation establishes the reality of these objects and that they did have a deep concern with our nuclear facilities. In addition they demonstrated that if necessary they could render these intercontinental ballistic missiles inert. I was a crypto officer for the entire Ram Siner base. I was a top secret control officer and in that capacity I happened to see a classified message and go through my comm center which said that a UFO has crashed on the island of Sitzburg and Norway and a team of scientists are coming to investigate it. I did not recall whether the message came from where was going to because in that capacity we were often times told what you see here leave here but I can recall seeing that. The next thing that comes to mind is one that took place in 1967. I was in charge of the communications center at 28th of division at Monsterm Air Force Base, Montana. I was again the top secret control officer there. I dispatched all the nuclear launch that's indicated to the sacrificial crews and whatnot. I had a very good top secret background to you know to go on. One night or one day I should say I happened to see a message that came through my communication center. There again I cannot quote the date where it came from where it was going to but I do recall reading it and saying it's basically that a UFO was seen near missile cycled numbers I can't recall but it was hovering there and it said that the crew went on duty and there was crew coming off duty. Also the UFO just hovering in mid-area. It was a metallic circular object and from what I understand the missiles were all shut down. They were in the missile cycled and they were being I don't know what sack does as far as activated in a missile was concerned but it's basically an standby mode so it can be launched but when they say it went down they means that went dead and something turned those missiles off and so they could not be put in a mode of launching. You've met the incident I guess I call it is happened on the morning of March 16th 1967 as I recall it was early in the morning and I got a I received a call from my top side security guard and he said that he and some of the guards had been observing some strange lights flying around the site. It wasn't more than well within a few minutes I'd say maybe half hour later. He calls back and this time he's very frightened I can tell by the tone of his voice he's he's very shook up and said sir there's a there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. He said I'm looking at it right now it's a glowing red object I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn and of course he was all shook up while he was telling me that he was very excited. I immediately went over to my commander who was taking a nap we have a little caught down there in a respiratory and I was telling him about the telephone call we just received then and as I was relating this to him our missile started shutting down one by one there were approximately anywhere from six to eight that went down but they went down in rapid succession which again is extremely rare and in the meantime I called upstairs to find out what the status was of this object. The guard said well the object is left just left at high speed. Echo applied is another squadron about that say 50 60 miles away from our location but they had the same sort of thing happened they had UFOs that were hovering not not the launch control facility but the actual launch facilities where the missiles are actually located they had some maintenance and security people out there at the time and they were they were observed the UFOs were observed by these people out of those sides now they lost all 10 of their weapons so that morning we lost anywhere from 16 to 18 ICBMs at the same time UFOs were in the area and were observed by airman this incident was of extreme concern to sack headquarters because they couldn't explain it nobody could explain what happened there is another incident that happened just within a week of this week after where there were radar reports and quite a few more witnesses. So we all turned around I mean they're sitting about a I'd say a half a mile from the tower and it above 3000 feet was three silver UFOs you know sitting in a farm was two here then one covering the center one they started moving they went straight up you know for a and then they went zep and they was off our scope and our scope would go out to 260 miles and so that you calculate that that's pretty fast I called headquarters in the guy on the phone and he says I said okay we got a contact and he says you mean sack is running a Michigan she that's not sack not sack what and that's his cosmos you wait a minute he says scrambling your phone so there's switch you can throw that scrambles everything of my and I said okay my phone scrambling your scrambling mind scrambling you taking pictures taking pictures taking radar pictures taking radar pictures taking real pictures he says okay don't say another word he says I will send a courier up there you'll get there in about six higher you turn everything over to him we are never officially ever noted for those pictures that they ever received those pictures it was just went secret it went black like it never happened and what we saw were three very bright but independent lights I mean three separate lights we assumed they were independent and they were in a perfect I guess is it is equal at all the perfect triangle the the curious thing about this formation of lights that caused us to watch it for an extended period of time 10 or 15 minutes we watched it was that first it was silent second it was moving slowly but in a perfectly constant altitude perfectly constant velocity and perfectly constant direction from north to south when I arrived at the command post the next morning at about six thirty in the morning it was unusually active and unusually well-staffed in fact it was a beehive of activity and there were people who had obviously been there most of the night and it seems that these lights did position themselves over the alert force of B52's over the alert pad where there were a specified number of B52's configured for their wartime mission and these lights were very interested in that wartime configuration it would appear and as as sorties returned I was told by those who had been there overnight they were asked to close and try to identify close with and try to identify these lights and this included B52's KC 135's and even some of the F106 interceptors that had been out doing their particular training missions as well and the pattern was the same each time a an aircraft would approach the lights would depart in ways that defied any aerodynamic knowledge that anybody there had just rapid accelerations rapid changes in direction including vertical and just doing things that something that is flying by the rules of aerodynamics that we understand would not have been at all possible this whole event took from beginning to and probably in the range of six and perhaps more hours and in retrospect it is curious how quickly that subject just was dropped it just wasn't discussed when I was a commander of a radar squad or an up in Maine a council or a force station main we were right next door to a lawyer in Air Force Base was where that launched the B52's and the the KC tankers and things like that I had a lot of security friends over there at Lauren who told me about and I have no first-hand knowledge of it but they also had seen UFOs hovering near the nuclear weapon storage area on my Air Force Base and a lot of my my technicians that they worked for me as a communication electronics officer they would tell stories about things going across the radar screens that found test experience you know and they were not nothing could go that fast. I was on midwatch during my second med crews and it was about sometime between midnight and two o'clock and I had a contact come on the radar scope I knew the difference between surface search radar and air search radar there's differences in polarity of the radio signal and things like this and how the waves come back all the stealth kind of stuff you know active and passive of electronic countermeasures so I know the difference between a flock of geese or you know wave returns or false echoes and in fact this was the first thing the challenge made to check it out in ECM is to whether or not the contact that had on the scope was genuine because this was between 65,000 feet in above and the strength of the statement was as strong as a surface contact on the water of an aircraft carrier this this contact was huge it was got my attention and the attention of others that were on watch there were four unless they're on watch and two officers at the time and so anyway in this particular case it was showing up on high-finding equipment and it was showing up on radar equipment and then it began to move fairly slowly it first and then very quickly the CEO came in and he wanted to know what the heck was going on here and they looked at it and asked what the hell it was that you know and it got the attention of the captain at that time was captain Clark was my captain my commander was commander Gibson at the time and um there were only one person on watch in ECM and before I knew no matter all 15 minutes the ship was being turned and two phantom twos were being prepared for launch the phantom twos went to afterburners and they were about a hundred miles or so away from this contact and turned on the conical scan radar to lock on and it linked out just a spirit after they landed with five 35 minutes later and everybody settled down this thing links back on again it's about 12 to 15 miles from a ship high-ringed about 30,000 feet and in any event they went out and the lookout's couldn't see anything nobody could see anything but it was there on our radar scope it was not a false signal my CEO told me Jordan this you know what he'd be got in the law this never happened and I wasn't the only one there on watch that night so anybody who who was there at that time knows what I'm talking about and knows it is truth but less than it doesn't people knew what went on that now like that ship had 5,000 minutes there were documents that I have seen that refer to the Roosevelt having several instances of UFO flyovers and particularly after they took on board nuclear weapons and I was on board when they did take those on for the first time this particular night I took a message off the telltale tight and followed it because it was not to us and I turned around to check the telltale types again and saw something I had never seen before and that was at all eight telltiles were just typing complete garbage totally incoherent so I immediately called of facilities control and the intercom to inform them that my broadcasts were out and they informed me that they were busy because all communications had just gone out ship wide. The propulsion system still worked we could maintain the speed and course we could steer but from all the stories that I heard anything it was electronic and nature ceased to operate a few seconds later we heard we had an intercom and a pneumatic tube system that went between the communications room to the signal bridge which was located at the right top of the island structure of the carrier and we heard of voice come on very excited yelling that God was here at the end of the world and we looked at each other and thought well I'd strange what's going on there. Another few seconds went by and another voice came on more control this person said that there's something over the ship so what he said there's something over the ship well I looked at a friend of mine or a shipmate and he looked at me and we decided to go have a look we observed a large glowing sphere over the island structure of the ship it was hard to decide what size the thing was because there was no perspective it was late and evening the sun had gone down it was twilight but it looked huge I would I would say anywhere from three or four hundred feet to a quarter of a mile depending on how high it was it glowed in a pulsating matter between a yellowish and an orange is color that couldn't see any details other than a glowing spherical object unfortunately only got to observe this object for less than 30 seconds because by time we got out there and started looking at it general quarters went off on the ship battle stations we had to go back to our watch station which was our battle stations a few days later the commanding officer in the executive officer came on the close circuit television system that we had on board it was anyway they could just a crew of five thousand he looked at the camera and I'll never forget this he looked at the camera he said I would like to remind the crew that certain events that take place on board enable major major enable combat and vessel are considered classified and should not be discussed with anyone without anything else some men arrived on the ship when we returned to an all-foot to interview some people in suits lord knows where they came from what agency they were from i'm convinced that there's something to it i'm convinced that the the government somebody in the government knows a lot more than than we know muralsham McDowell worked for the united states navy in 1981 and had a top secret sci special compartment at intelligence clearance with zebra stripes what this means is that he was one of a few people cleared to be in the command center at the Atlantic command facility near north of Virginia during very critical events including thermonuclear war muralsham McDowell's testimony establishes that an object came in off the northern north america encost was tracked on four or five radar stations that jets were scrambled from multiple facilities to intercept and to attempt the force down this object which came from space he will also testify that this object moved in one radar sweep from off the northern coast of north america to off the coast of north of Virginia and then down to off the coast of Jacksonville florida admiral hairy train who is commander in chief at lanic command was present during this event witnessed it and was involved in scrambling jets to intercept and to attempt to force down this object i was granted after six months late a top secret special compartment at intelligence clearance with a zebra stripe identification which permitted access to all facilities on the base at all times it's the highest level of alert that the navy has or had at that time for dealing with generally for generally dealing with global nuclear threats when you said a condition zebra whether it's a drill or not people who are not authorized to be there who don't who do not have a zebra access badge is a zebra stripe badge on your clearance bat they have to believe the command facility and we have marines stationed outside the building there we end the building and as well as outside that we're under orders to shoot any author unauthorized personnel that remained in the command center they would announce it before hand this is a drill this is a drill set conditions equal and unauthorized personnel would be escorted out of the command center if they didn't already know that they had to leave and but they turned the lights down this time and they didn't say this is a drill there's a door right here and this guy the marine comes in and wants to know what's going on is this a drill or so forth you know they've got orders to start shooting people and I know because I actually got the junior of these attention and said hey you guys need to tell this guy something he's ready to start shooting people you know because they haven't told him to stand down yet and which he did and I remember you know wanting to just get to hell out of there we had contact with an unauthorized flying object that had entered our airspace and at that point when Adam or Trane found out that the it wasn't a Soviets and that he wanted to know where the Soviets responding to this threat also that was the in moment that he gave authorization to put two planes up together see what this thing was pilots you could hear the pilots live boys transmissions being piped into the command center visual confirmation an object description of the objects pilots were able to close a couple of times and we were able to see that the the object was not an aircraft that we were familiar with was nothing that we had was nothing the Soviets had and that was determined very quickly this thing absolutely had complete control of the situation and could just be where it wanted to be just in a month matter of seconds one minute we're you know closing on it you know off the coast of Maine the next minute it's the Norfolk headed south towards Florida as Adam or Trane was on he was scrambling authorizing planes up just left and right up and down the whole least in Seaboard headed out towards over the Atlantic towards the A's ors do remember them saying that it had pulled a 66 degree angle when it approached as it approached A's ors like this and it just pulled up at a 66 degree angle without slowing down or anything and left the atmosphere just was gone he just took off in the space and was gone and just like that the only descriptions that I recall the top pilots actually made were that they could not find any markings on the aircraft they could not find any visible signs that the thing had wings, a tail, windows, a cockpit or anything like that or any markings from any country they did get close enough to get some photographs taken that were later brought over to the to the Command Center. We're from the photograph I could remember the shape what I would have said would have been I would say a cylinder I would say a cylinder because it was abrupt it had abrupt ends they didn't take the ends didn't taper down like most aircraft. When over one of the B502s which were armed with nuclear weapons appeared a blueish haze almost the form of a boomerang or a wing shape and in this haze there was a glittery light we had no idea what this was and we do know that the the sack teams were called to ready so they came out of the plane but prior to that this just hovered over the plane for a short period of time and they just vanished. It wasn't as if you actually saw it glide away it was like in a whiff it was gone. This was something that actually showed up on radar or and the perimeter guards saw it and the other people on the other post because there's one person per B502 bomber. Astronaut Gordon Cooper is one of the heroes of our country. He witnessed not only a daytime UFO event in Germany but in addition while working and a connected to the U2 project at Edwards Air Force Base his team had one of these objects land in broad daylight at Edwards Air Force Base. It was filmed. He oversaw this film being developed and sent to the Pentagon under special circumstances. Again this is a hero of our country astronaut Gordon Cooper stating that one of these objects UFO landed in the fifties at Edwards Air Force Base and it was filmed. He saw the film and it was sent back to the Pentagon and his testimony cannot be contradicted because of the credibility that this great man has. We're flying in Germany and we're flying F86 and they would come over and do the same maneuvers that we make except everyone's while one of them goes to zip it and you just can't do that in a fighter conventional fighter. I was having some cameraman film the installation of a precision landing facility we were putting in right on the edge of the dry light and the saucer flew right over him putting down three little gear and landing out on the dry light bed and they went out there picked up their cameras and moved on out toward him filming and he left it off but the gear back in the well and climbed out of very high rate of speed and disappeared and so while I was going through all the regulation books and finding out the number to call and watching the report that I had them go and develop a film the time they got back with the development film I was on the higher and higher level of officer talking to me anyway the Colonel telling me to you know when the film arrived in my desk to put it in the carrier pouts there would be a occur there at my office by that time already and they'd arranged for him to fly in our base airplane back to Washington with these films that I had a chance to hold it up to the wind and look at it certainly good found I think they're for real I think eventually we'll find out that there's a regular travel around this earth from other planet Car Wolf worked for the military and was at Langley Air Force Base as an Air Force technician during the 1960s while there and in his capacity working on some devices in a very secret area of Langley he was shown by another technician photographs taken by the lunar orbiter prior to the lunar landing of structures on the moon that were specific artificial and constructed of stone and other materials some of them were very large and he states are unmistakable evidence that someone had been on the moon before we landed in 1969 and that there are artificial structures on the man my boss came to me I was working in a color lab at that time I was a technician photographic technician I I was asked to go over to this facility on Langley Air Force Base where the NSA was bringing in the information from the lunar orbiter and so I packed up some tools I went over I went into the facility a couple of officers took me into this hanger it was a very large hanger so they took me into this laboratory I took a look at the equipment there was an airman second class in there I was an airman second class as well he turned the equipment on and put it through its paces it didn't do what it was supposed to do I saw what was going on with it and I said to him you know we'll have to take this thing out of the lab if we're going to work on it we can't work in it on it in here in the dark room environment so everyone left the facility left the dark room except this airman second class myself and we're in waiting for someone to come to remove this piece of equipment and at the time I didn't know what the real purpose of this dark room in this operation in this facility was I thought this was where they were bringing the data in and then releasing the images to the public they were doing 35 millimeter strips of film at that time which were then assembled into 18 and a half by 11 inch mosaic they were called there is a digital signature and a gray scale and every 35 millimeter strip and those those strips were from success of passes around the moon so he was showing me how all this worked and we walked over to one side of the lab and he said by the way we've discovered a base on the backside of the moon I said I said who's what you mean who's he said yes there is we've discovered a base on the backside of the moon and at that point I became frightened and it was a little terrified thinking to myself that if anybody walks in the room now I know we're in jeopardy we're in trouble because he should be giving me this information and that he pulled out one of these mosaics and showed showed this base which had geometric shapes there were towers there were spherical buildings there are very tall towers and things that looked somewhat like radar dishes but they were large structures if I compare it to what I'm seeing now because I do have photographs that have artifacts in them that are similar to what I saw there are massive some of the structures are half a mile in in size so they're huge structures some of the some of the buildings seem to have very reflective surfaces on them a couple of structures that I saw reminded me of cooling towers at power-jering plants they had that sort of a shape some of them were just very very straight and tall with a flat top some of them were round some of them look like a quansit hut you know with a domed kind of like a greenhouse the particularly shot that I saw there were several clustered together over a landscape a fairly large landscape I didn't want to look at it any longer than that because I felt that my life was in jeopardy do you understand I say I would love to have looked at it longer I would have loved to have had copies I would love to you know said more about it and discussed it more but I knew I couldn't and I knew the that young fellow who was sharing this was really really overstepping his bounds at that point they said we're going to show you a film that might help you best put into perspective what you wear what you gentlemen have witnessed and help you maybe put it to bed a little bit for yourselves this thing went all the way up to the space program it showed and I swear to God it showed structures on the moon these box kind of things that looks sand colored it showed that lunar car moving around I remember those clearly because I've ever been at a child when all that was happening but them at a distance point astronauts pointing at these box-looking things structured objects moving off the surface of the moon film by Definale Apollo missions Donna here is a former NASA employee at Johnson Space Center a technician who was present at a facility where she inadvertently was shown an aerial photograph of a UFO casting a shadow upon the ground she confirms that the man who showed her this photograph told her that it was to be airbrushed out before released from the secret facility at NASA she also later found that there were a number of such photographs and other evidence which NASA had and which were routinely sanitized or eliminated before being shown outside of these compartmented operations. this day that particular day I walked into the photo lab in the restricted area and this was between missions one of the gentlemen I had been friends with and I still talk to occasionally he pointed his my attention to one area of this mosaic it was one panel of a mosaic and I said this is really interesting he explained everything and then he and with a smile on his face he said look over there and I looked and one of the photo panels I saw around white dot and at the time it was very crisp very sharp lines on it and I said to him what what is that is that a dot on the emotion and then he's grinning and he says dots on the emotion don't leave round shadows on the ground and there was a round shadow with the right angle at the correct angle the sun shining on the trees I saw pine trees I didn't see a coastline I don't know where this was but I looked at him and I was pretty startled because I'd worked out there several years and never seen anything like this never heard of anything like this and I said is this a UFO and he's smiling at me and he says I can't tell you that I can't tell you that what I knew he meant was it was but he couldn't tell me So I said what are you going to do with this information and he said well we always have to airbrush him out before we sell him to the public and I was just amazed that they had a protocol in place for getting ready to UFO pictures I asked guards security guards I ran into another security guard that was forced to burn a lot of UFO pictures and he told me he came into my office one day this was when I worked in another job he came into my office and he was very frightened and he said don I'm you know I heard you were interested in the subject he said I used to work out there and one day some soldiers came in in the fatigues and had me burn pictures and he said that he was burning them and then he was forced not to look at them but he was tempted he looked at one of them and it was a UFO on the ground shortly thereafter he was hidden ahead with a gun but and he still had a scar on his forehead from that being knocked out because he looked at the picture and we get quite a bit of information about sightings we get drawings of what the vehicles look like weather land that are not whether they were they saw any people with them you know extra dress real things like that and we get pictures in of the supposedly avian or satellite areas they took up the Soviets whatever building sites and I once in a while an anomaly would show up and in the picture that didn't belong there round object triangular object they were not markings put on the photograph indicate some place or anything like that these were above ground they were not part of the picture itself yes there have been ET visitation there have been crashed craft there have been material and bodies recovered and there is some group of people somewhere that may or may not be associated with government at this point but certainly were at one time that have this knowledge and have been attempting to conceal this knowledge are not permitted to be widely disseminated the question of has it been kept secret or how could it be kept secret it hasn't been kept secret it's been there all alone but it has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and to create confusion so that the truth doesn't come out it is disinformation is simply another method of stonewalling and has been used consistently for the last 50 years or so Nick Pope is a Ministry of Defense official still currently employed at the Ministry of Defense who headed up the Ministry of Defense's UFO office for investigating this phenomenon for a number of years in the 1990s I met Mr. Pope when he was still working in that capacity back in 1993 in his testimony will learn of incontrovertible evidence of events of massive objects moving at extraordinary speeds on radar which are not manufactured on this earth he will also confirm the vent water's case and other extraordinary cases within the United Kingdom and the existence of extensive government files related there too I received somewhere between 2 and 300 UFO reports each year and my job was to evaluate these to come to a decision about whether there was evidence of any threat to the defense of the United Kingdom we were left with a hard core of sightings which defied any conventional explanation whatsoever and these were a bunch of interesting cases involving sightings by military personnel near misses between UFOs and aircraft instances where UFOs were tracked on radar and cases where UFOs were captured on film and video one of the most significant waves of sighting in Europe took place over Belgium in March of 1990 and on that occasion UFOs were seen by large numbers of people on the ground and tracked on radar resulting in two f-16 fighter interceptors being scrambled these aircraft then picked up the UFO themselves on their airborne radar and an intriguing game of cat and mouse played itself out in the skies of Belgium over the next hour or so on the 30th and 31st of March 1993 a series of UFO encounters took place over Great Britain the most interesting of which involved an occasion where two air force bases were actually overflown by a large triangular or diamond shaped UFO now the two establishments involved in this are RAF Crossford and RAF Shortbury one important fact about the British wave of sightings in March 1993 was that it happened three years to the very night after the wave of sightings that rocked the establishment in Belgium and led to the scrambling of F-16s that again was late on the 30th and in the early hours of the 31st of March I've made no secret of the fact that I believe some of these UFOs may well be of extraterrestrial origin now I know that that's an extraordinary statement for a serving officer in the Ministry of Defense to make but it is me speaking on the basis of three years official research and investigation so I don't make these statements likely and I don't do so on the basis of a blindly per faith I do it on the basis of the data held by the government now during this next section of the video tape you will hear from people who have been involved in events where objects of extraterrestrial origin have landed or have crashed or been forced down and which have been retreat this is of course explosive testimony it establishes the reality of the phenomenon and also of the fact that we have been studying this phenomenon for years many people will think that this is limited to the so-called Roswell event of the 1940s this could not be further from the truth in fact there have been multiple events at least a couple of dozen events where objects of extraterrestrial origin have been acquired have been retrieved and which have been studied we think that this is something which is of extreme importance because you cannot consider that covert programs having spent hundreds of billions of dollars over the decades on research and development so-called reverse engineering or back engineering of extraterrestrial technologies have not had significant breakthroughs the testimony will show that in fact we have that we have had breakthroughs which have trickled out to our society in the form of certain advances in electronics however the central breakthrough dealing with the physics of the quantum vacuum space the so-called zero point energy phenomenon as well as the anti-gravity electrogrevitic phenomenon that these technologies have been withheld from our society Brigadier general Stephen Lupkin is a practicing attorney in North Carolina and a Brigadier general in the Army National Guard with the Jagd Division he as a young man was assigned to the White House during Eisenhower's period and also at the Pentagon saw some of the material from the crash of an extraterrestrial vehicle in New Mexico he also speaks about Eisenhower's knowledge of the subject and his great concern about the fact that there were projects and activities about which he apparently was not being informed we were in the basement of the Pentagon and in those days that was in 1959 there was a tremendous amount of security there in the basement of the Pentagon anybody has worked there knows what I'm talking about I learned a lot about project blue book blue book was discussed quite openly in the office sections of blue book were opened for discussion and then there were other matters as well that that we're brought to our attention one afternoon when when we were just about ready to finish up training was about 330 maybe quarter four in the afternoon Colonel Holabard brought out a piece of a what appeared to be metallic it was a metallic piece of look like a body it looked like a yardstick it had deciphering it had had had encryption on it he did it described them as being symbols of of instruction and that's as far as he would go but but he did it he did infer that that the instructions whatever they might have been were something that that was important for the military to to keep working on on a constant basis it seemed giant like what I saw because it was the first time I'd ever seen a thing like this before and and all eyes were just peeled on that particular thing and when he told us what it was it was frightening it was here you could have heard a pin drop in the room when it was first mentioned well he said it would had been taken from one of the craft that had crashed in a new Mexico and that it had been taken from a box of materials that the military was working on and they didn't use the word reverse engineering at that time but it was something similar to the reverse engineering they felt like they they needed to work on and it was going to take years to do this extraterrestrial bodies yes there were either three or five and and they didn't even know at that point because some of the some of the information that they had gotten apparently was was in complete but three or five stands out in my mind as as a number that that were taken they were one was alive partially alive at the time this happened and I do not know what may have happened to him after that the the findings that were put in there were highly scientific and they were highly gone over by by the people that knew it knew what they wanted to put in there this information was information that would never get out to anyone else but it was designed for the use of particular military personnel there were probably 1500 reported cases at that time I would say there probably were between two and 300 cases of lock-on and that's why those cases were in there because they were authentic you saw an awful lot you saw a lot of pictures most of the pictures we have seen duplicates of today somewhere the pictures that I saw were I think maybe a little bit they were taken by Air Force pilots as well of the UFOs yes they actually had pictures of the UFOs and they did yes not only the Air Force but but somewhere taken by civilian pilots somewhere taken by Marine Air Corps pilots and some were far enough the whole process of dealing with with with the UFO of phenomenon could not be handled anymore by one agency and so in order to keep it alive and I guess as cheaply as possible it was it was given to various in some reports of the government to work on and I guess they thought that they could they could also keep the intelligence factor as as secret as possible by by giving little agencies a little bit here and a little bit there and that oftentimes is done with with matters like this but but what happened was Eisenhower got sold out I think that he realized that all of a sudden this this this matter is is going into into the control corporations he realized that he was losing control he realized that this the phenomenon of of of whatever it was that we were faced with was not going to be in the best hands and that that those for the as far as I can remember that was the expression that was used it's not going to be in the best hands. Hurland Bentley was with the United States Army in Maryland when one of these objects came in and crashed very near the facility where he was working one evening in the 1950s. In addition on subsequent nights these objects were tracked on radar and were tracked moving in extraordinary ways. Later while working in a sensitive intelligence capacity he was at a facility in California which he prefers not to name monitoring the transmissions from one of our Apollo moon missions and in this transmission he heard and has testified that the astronauts encountered some sort of UFO or object in space in route to the moon in 1957 to 59 I was mostly in outside of all in the Maryland just north of Washington DC at a Nike Ajax missile facility. I was a radar operator in May of 1958 about six a.m. and the reason I knew a six is because that's when everybody got up. I looked out the window. The first I heard is sound. It sounded like a pulsating transformer. I looked out the window and looked across the field and saw this object heading towards the ground and saw crash broke apart and then it took off again in flight. It's probably the next set of 30 feet in diameter yet. It had circular balls appeared on the outer rim up close to a cake like fixture on top and that's been and there were different colors. There were orange and red and some yellow but they were pulsating so I mean it was quite a sight to see as it was wobbling towards the earth and it came in and fritted the rapid rate. The other issue there was that when the craft took off again after crashed it went through a grove of trees which it actually shared three four five inch limbs in just when fell scuba like a knife or a machete. A largest piece that I saw which was actually glowing white hot was probably the size of a washing machine. Shortly thereafter the Air Force Persona had arrived going across this field and started picking up these pieces. They used long poles, very long poles, to pick up the biggest piece and they proceeded to put it on a truck that was led line truck and pushed in with another long pole and got it inside the truck itself. Then the other personnel picked up the other pieces that were laying about. The real exciting part happened the next evening while I was on duty and it was approximately 10-11 at night and I got a call from the Gaithamburg facility saying that they had 10 or sorry 12 to 15 UFOs 50 to 100 feet off the ground. So I asked the guy who was on the radio with me and said what do they sound like? He took his head and mic off put it off the van window and again the pulsating sound except there were more of them. I had to radar on the M33 radar, sweep radar and I found the right next the ground clutter where Gaithamburg sits we found the Fonda blip where these vehicles were and then all of a sudden they all took off at the same time and from my radar scope it went one sweep. It's a 33 in the third RPM to go that distance from the center out to where I got the next blip in the first sweep. Had a constant velocity it would have to be 17,000 miles an hour which we calculated from our analog computer. I was at a facility in California that's all I can say and I was doing particular classified work set aside from what was actually happening there. It was completely different scenario. The only thing I can say is it was it was occurring at the same time that our astronauts were doing a loop around the moon and back again. On their trip to that moon or to the moon itself I heard a expression of the bogey coming in 11 o'clock. Well familiar with that particular term I perked my ears and started listening a little bit and discovered that Houston and the astronauts were talking back and forth about a collision and the astronauts asked for permission to do avoidance for a collision and he's been finally granted that permission to do that and after the after the common length saddle down a little bit the astronauts said it's not necessary they are now paralleling our course and there was a discussion asked to what was paralleling that course. There was another type of ship. There were portals there that you could see in. They could see beings of some sort. They did not describe these beings. They just took photographs. After a while, a few thousand miles and then they took off from the capsule that they were flying in and went away.