200-Year-Old-Annunaki-Cities-Discover - Costa Coast

Up next with Michael Tellinger, some startling conclusions about the origins of human kind. That'll be next on Costa Coast, day-y-o. And welcome back to Costa Coast, Michael Tellinger is a scientist in the very true sense of the word never shine away from controversial issues and scrutinizing every clue is very meticulous, by the way. After 30-year-long obsession with the origins of humankind and the genetic anomalies of our species, he wrote slave species of God. When Johann Hein exposed the mystery of the stone ruins of South Africa to Michael in 2007, they began in a reversible process of research that then led Michael into more startling scientific conclusions and then the completion of two more works. Adam's calendar and the temples of African Gods. Here live as Michael Tellinger. Michael, how are you? Excellent George, nice to be talking to you again after quite a while. It's coming up on two years, I can't believe it. I know, it's amazing how time flies when you're having fun and up and down the mountains looking at ancient stones, you know. Where are you right now? I'm in Johannesburg, I'm actually visiting a friend of mine in Johannesburg. I had to come up for some meetings. I'm out of the mountains where I've moved to about two years ago. Just after just before you and I last spoke, I just moved into the mountains of Empuma Langa where most of these ancient ruins are concentrated. And I've been doing most of my research there. But I'm at the moment, I'm in Johannesburg. Well, it's incredible, technology is, I mean, there you are there. I just left Los Angeles, I'm now in the Midwest and St. Louis. And we're carrying on this conversation on 540 radio stations, streaming on the internet. It's just amazing the way this all works. Well, I'm glad you guys have got all those bases covered because I wouldn't know where to begin. All you have to do is do what you do well. We'll do the rest for you. Excellent. Tell me about your latest work, temples of the African gods. And how does that relate to your previous two works? Thanks, George. It really is kind of fascinating sequence of events that I'm folding. And I must admit, I'm probably one of the luckiest explorers of scientists in the world right now. You know, when I first released slave species of God in 2006, it never realized that that work which deals with the slave species sitting in scenario, I heard some of the inserts in between waiting to talk to you, talking about how the world is becoming more and more enslaved, and how people have just really become clones and drones for the illuminati and so forth. And it's just amazing to see how mothers, books, slaves, species of God, how that is becoming more and more true and accurate, as time goes by. And that information and that works, then led to the discovering of or meeting your on-hina who came to one of my talks and presentations on the slave species. And he said to me, listen, I've got to show you some stuff that I've been photographing for the past 20 years. And he started showing me these incredible aerial photographs of these circular stone structures along the mountain tops of Southern Africa. And it just blew my mind. And I instinctively knew that somehow those structures were linked to these early, very, very early civilizations of homosapiens on earth. And very shortly after that, your hand then showed me what he discovered. He didn't know its significance was what we know called Adam's calendar. We now know that it is probably the oldest man made structure on earth. It's a beautiful monolithic calendar. And then when we realize that the calendar which is incidentally still accurate today, it still works accurately. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's just spectacular. And I think once the world realizes what there is here, you know, it suddenly makes stone hinge and well, the perimeter is impressive. But just the sheer find of this calendar site at this point in time. I think it's going to score a course of Sampead. You know, George, I must say you want to take people to Adam's calendar. It changes their lives. You can see their lives have changed. It is quite dramatic. It hits them. It finally hits them that there's something more than they've ever been taught before. Exactly. And that's, you know, it's a very dangerous situation because you're not quite sure what to tell people. So I no longer just take any kind of tourists. They only do what I call now, you know, specialised to people that are broad minded, that are virtually awake, that are consciously connected and so forth. And we take those people that who want to know they hungry for more information and you can just throw anything at them and they are okay with it. Otherwise, you know, if you get a bunch of tourists and they come there and say, well, when I see those big rocks, you know, it doesn't quite work, you know. How many other explorers over time have had shown an interest in these stone runs? That's a very interesting story. I'm going to come back to that in a minute if I can't just finish, but just to finish how this, these discoveries linked to my, to my, you know, my work, my first book. It's just really a continuation. And it basically what it does. It's for the first time, uncover this vanished civil arrest, very, very vast vanished civilisation, that lived at the southernmost tip of Africa, South Africa and the Barbour most deep. That were mining gold. It is the civilisation that many, many hundreds, if not thousands of authors have written about for decades upon decades, including zachery, zachery, the brilliant zachery, zachery, and many others. But no one has ever had the physical proof and evidence to substantiate all those writings. And this is for the first time, our discovery, for the first time, really substantiate and provide the physical evidence for all the work that has been done by so many brilliant people. And that's what I find absolutely extremely exciting and I feel very fortunate that I'm, you know, involved in this process and, and really it's my work and your on-hine as discoveries over the last 20 years. That have now finally reached the world and thanks to people like you that we're getting the message across. Well, it's exciting and as you know, zachery has sitian beliefs that the Anunaki settled through Iraq, perhaps in part of that region in South Africa as well, to mine for gold, just like you've said. Yeah, that's it. And that's it. So, um, to come back to you next question, George, is how many people have shown interest in these runs? That is, that in itself is a fascinating story, which the world does not know. All right. Let's, let's, let's find out. The fascination with the runs, the vanished civilizations in South Africa goes back to the late 1800s already with the first Portuguese settlers that came around the Cape, the Cape of storms and the Cape of Good Hope as it's called. The southern top of Africa and they started settling and or exploring the, the inland and they were known as the degradados, the sort of great unwashed. They, they would take them out of prison and, and send them out to explore the, you know, give them an option. You want to be a prisoner or do you want to be an explorer kind of thing. And, and if they didn't come back, nobody lost any sleep, but fortunately, there's one particular guy called Antonio Fernandez in, in the 1510 already, who went and explored from the Mozambique inside the, the in the lands of, of Africa, South Africa. And he came back with fascinating stories of ancient ruins and giant stone walls who were completely ruined and overgrown. Nobody was living in it. The people that lived close by the indigenous people and native people didn't know who built those ruins or who built those structures. And in fact, he's got it on record saying that when he asked the, the people that lived nearby, incidentally those people that he met were called the Caranga or the Makaranga or the Makaranga or the Makaranga people, which means children of the sun. All right. Now, and that already brings in a, a huge mystery because they weren't supposed to be sun worshiping cultures in southern Africa, that stage. That was all assigned to the northern hemisphere to Egypt and dinner, those ancient civilizations. There suddenly he comes across the children of the sun who didn't know where their name really came from and didn't know who built these ancient ruins and they, they, he's got on record when they said that it must have been done by the devil because man cannot build such structures. And then by 19 by 1891, in the mid 1800s there were a number of explorers that came through southern Africa, studying these ruins. And the one that sticks out for me is the brilliant theodore Bant. He's a British archaeologist. That's a lot of work. He did a lot of work in the near east and Middle East and in Egypt. And then he came down south and he spent a number of years here traveling to South Africa and Zimbabwe. He was the first guy to really excavate great Zimbabwe, which we now know from a lot of research that it probably was. In case headquarters and his head office. And the part of this ancient civilizations and all these ancient stone structures, it was the mine, mine manages house. When you travel, you don't know what your mind feels like in the United States, but in South Africa, the mining towns and only these small little towns with the people living in the houses around the mine. And the mine manager always lives in a big house on the hill. And something has changed. In key, he had the big house on the hill. That's pretty much what it comes down to. And what time period do you think this might have been Michael? Because, since I think, right, 400,000 years ago, would you echo that? Yeah, you would. Well, actually two time periods here, the first time period is arrival of the Anunnaki. And then there's the actual settlement of the southern African mine fields. And then the cloning process of the new species, the primitive species, the Lulua, Melu, and the primitive worker. And it seems to me from current research that we're looking at about 285,000 years when the primitive species was first cloned, the homosepience. And that would also echo the findings of genetic engineering when the first homosepience appeared on earth around 300,000 years ago. Truly, it is probably one of the greatest stories of mankind. And it really, you know, what it does for me, it gives me a great sense of understanding. And it's when you start to understand this thing which I call the great human puzzle. Once the pieces of the puzzle start to fit in and you start to see the picture emerge out of this murky, you know, historic murky sequence of events. It just becomes so exciting when you can place yourself in this great story. And start to get a sense and understanding who you are and where you belong and where you come from and why this world is so confusing today. What has anybody else along with you and the people that you've just mentioned really seen the true importance to they truly understand what these stone ruins really mean. Yeah, that is the saddest part of our work at the moment. I must tell you that inside Africa, there is from the authority side and from the established academia, there is a huge move to discredit what we are doing. They just not getting it, they just don't get it. Why are they trying to do that for political reasons? Yeah, I guess there is a very strong political motive here. You know, we've gone from apartheid to the opposite situation where there is a very strong group of black elite politicians who have just taken control. And this is not a racist accusation, this is just, you know, this is what this is the fact. So we've gone from a white extremist to a black extremist situation. I don't want to get too involved in the politics because it's not as bad as it sounds, but it is bad enough to affect people like me and the works that we're doing. Well, we know, for example, Michael, that the good researchers like Zahihawas will not listen to any other alternative story about the pyramids of Egypt. When you know, when you tell him the possibilities are extraterrestrials help them or they had high technology, he won't listen to it. He's very close-minded when it comes to that. I suspect that they're doing the same thing in South Africa. Yeah, they see there's a very strong sense of bunch of entitlement at the moment. And I'm going to sort of, that'll be my, I'd like to make that my last political statement because already I'm not well liked. And I don't want to make it any worse. What I'm sad about is that we're presenting the indigenous people of South Africa with the greatest story that anyone could ever present them with. You say that this is where the first humans on Earth emerged and everyone else on Earth is a direct derivative of this first great civilization that lives here. The Egyptians, the Sumerians, the Mayans, the Olmanks, the, you know, that every civilization originates here. And we see that in the symbols, we see that in the cultures, in the agriculture, we see it in everything we see the original settlements were here in South Africa and Zimbabwe. And that's a fantastic story to share with the world that the first civilization on Earth were African. Was was the garden of Eden there in that region? That's a good question. And I think it's probably has two answers. I think a portion of the garden of Eden was here. Because what we now know as well, George is the reason why Adam's calendar is so extremely important and why there is so much energy at the calendar site itself. It's right on the edge of a cliff. It looks out over what's known as the Barbaton Valley, the Barbaton in fact, crater, where the richest gold mine on Earth still is today, she begald mine. Queen of Shiba, she begald mine, maybe they knew something we'd done. When they called it she begald mine. And the reason I said that there was probably a garden of Eden here and in Mesopotamia is because it is at Adam's calendar that they cloned. They actually inserted the first fertilized eggs of this new species, hermosopiens, into the first Anunaki females, to carry the new beings. And it would be the surrogate mothers. And we read that in the Sumerian tablets, the Zechariah, the Sitchian speaks about the seven Anunaki birth goddesses or birth mothers. And then we hear an echo of that in Hinduism, the seven birth goddesses and so forth. And then you also in modern genetics, you hear the seven, you know, something of Eve. What do we're called again seven, seven daughters of Eve? And so forth. Yeah. So it seems that Adam's calendar is where they perform that first ritual and actual insemination. Mike, am I'm sorry to hear? No, and that is why Adam's calendar is such an important site. And there's so much energy there, then when people that have got strong psychic abilities come in there, they go absolutely crazy. They start telling you things that they've never imagined they'd be telling you. And I must tell you that I've learned probably more from psychic revelations going to Adam's calendar. Then I've learned from a scientific research and strangely enough, all the psychic predictions, or that I'm told, eventually tie up with what we find with scientific research afterwards. Explain the calendar a little bit more force, kind of pain us a picture of it. Okay, it's all right on the edge of a cliff. It sits pretty much on 31 degrees east, long-retudinal line, which is perfectly in line with grades in barbed wire. The other end is the main site at grades in barbed wire and the great primitive geyser, 31 degrees east. Incidentally, the numeric value for the biblical Elohim, Elohim, is original numeric value 31. Remember that the old classic languages were based on a numeric system. Each letter had a value, and they didn't just make up words like we make slang words today. That's why our language doesn't have any power or any energy. The original languages were structured around words and the power and the value in the word. So every word had a numeric value and the word Elohim, that value was 31. Maybe they were trying to tell us something once again. Maybe. And now when you say it's up there on the cliffs, how big is it? It was originally a circular structure. It's a key that you know, I have a complete memory block, but it is probably probably about 20 meters across. Oh, it's huge though. It's reasonably large. The original circular structure. And then you have in the right in the center you have the two main monoliths. For people who want to look at this incidentally, they can just go to our foundations website, which is mucomarty.org. I'll make sure we get a link up there at Costa Coast for you, Michael. And then you can then at least your listeners have a very good look at it to see how it's just so beautiful. It just it moves me physically every time I look at that picture. I've seen it a million times and every time I look at it, it still moves me. Anyway, so in the middle you got these two large monoliths, calendar stones. The one stone is actually the calendar stone itself. And the other stone, which is on the western side, is the stone that costs the shadow on the calendar stone, which allows us to tell every day of the year. Michael, we're going to take this, we're going to take this quick break and come right back and talk more about this. We'll be back. Well, Webmaster Lex Lone Hood already has the link for you on the mucomarty.org website. So you can see this stone ruins. We're talking about Adams calendar. It's on our Twitter feed and it'll also be included in the show recap at the end of the program, but that you can find it right now at our Twitter feed directly to that website as well. This time for our traditional shout out and thanks for supporting coast to coast to am. First of all, those of you listening to your favorite radio stations across North America. 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As I mentioned earlier, I think it was originally like a very significant ceremonial site established a built for the the arrival of an unenarchy here in southern Africa and in key establishing his great city this extensively large the largest stone city or settlement ever built on planet earth. And when you start looking at it from satellite photographs it truly takes your breath away the size of it and the extent of it. And I think Adams calendar was the flagship and the the centerpiece of the settlement here in southern Africa in the middle of the the first gold mines on planet earth. And not only that it was also that's why because of it's importance and its significance this is where they then cloned and did the first clear actual in dissemination of the fertilization of the. Anunarchy females and started the birthing process of this new species called homo sapiens the remarkable remarkable. I want you to weave a story for us Michael some of it may be based on I think your gut feelings your instincts but. And I think that's the most important thing to do with the position from the moment the Anunarchy came to this planet. What do you think happened I mean how how did they probably I guess through their equipment and their technology they knew that this planet was capable of having life until they got here they probably didn't know what was here. But give me penis a picture on what you think happened. Well look I know that your listeners are very open minded and and are seeking more and more information so I'm going to share something with you that I normally wouldn't share with people. I went for a channeling recently as my first channeling ever. And and and I had a long chat with with inky himself. I know a lot of people will say I don't know you don't quite know who you you know who's coming through and actually giving you the information. And so for but it was the information is so consistent with our with our discoveries and and Sean a light on much of the things we've been discovering. And explained a lot of things that previously weren't always a little gray on and and it's it's very interesting so the story is pretty much like Zach or I such and sketches and and a few other authors have sketched in the past. Is that unannuckier idea for under odd thousand years ago seeking gold. At that stage they need of the gold for very simple reasons for for climate climate republic problems on their own planet. And it was only much later that they discovered the monotomic principles or properties of gold. And he then did they started using gold as a source of energy they didn't know it when they first arrived and started mining the gold. So it's only much later and I believe that that that real explosion and knowledge and technology happened after the flood of about 13,000 years ago the biblical flood the nom jumping a bit. So they came here they're looking for gold they found some gold in the in the near east they started mining that and wasn't enough. And they were doing that themselves that that they would do that's right they were doing that themselves and it seems that also they were they were getting it from sea sand under the water. And and from court site that's been broken up and see sand and they were getting gold out of that and it wasn't enough. And then in key to cut apart himself I believe it was in key possibly the help of a few others they scanned the planet earth they flew all over the place looking for more. And higher deposits of gold and they found it in southern Africa. They sure did. Yeah they sure did and and then shortly after that they moved the whole mining operation here to the south. In key established himself a fortress there is headquarters which which is great and Bobby runs and when you when you listen is go on to our website they will they should also see I'm not sure if I loaded the aerial picture of great and Bobway. But when you look at the aerial photographs of the stone circular structures and you see a picture of great and Bobway from the air you instantly instantly see it's the same exactly the same civilisation the same architects the same group of people except great and Bobway is a lot bigger it's that as I mentioned earlier it's a mine manages house. And so he established his is fortress there and and they carried on mining and then. They realized that they weren't getting enough gold they needed help because they were what 300 out of them or something like that maybe 600 at 600 at the most that's what some of the scholars have has come up with those numbers. And that's just I mean if you if you think about gold mining processes you know 600 people or 300 people is not going to get you a lot of gold out of the ground. And they were loading it under their craft right and then taking off again back and. Exactly taking it off the planet yeah. All right and and this is where it can't really interesting when we start when we get back to this to this giant settlement down here the mine got a gold mining settlement all the parts in the roadways that we've got here but like we'll get back to that later. And so then they started mining they were on the only they needed help and that's when they decided look we need help we need to clone some sort of a. A robot or a species that is you know not to advance to intelligent to question us or argue with us. We need somebody that will just take instructions be smart enough to understand instructions operate some tools and help us get the gold out of the ground. And I can tell you one thing I've done a lot of geological research in the last six months and it is not easy to find gold. Okay I can now say that from personal experience. Yeah personal personal. Attends to find gold in all on the surface and analyze over probably a thousand rocks and thousand sediments and things like geological structures it is not easy to find gold. So when they found it that when they found the mother load under the ground here in South Africa. They realize this is where they've got to go on mass and start doing it in big numbers. And that's exactly what happened they then messed around for a while. Planned you know did some genetic experiments between themselves and between various other creatures. And I bet in some cases Michael they probably failed miserably and made some incredibly horrible creatures. Exactly I mean you've seen many movies and many stories that have been written about cross-pollinating different species and coming up with these hybrid horrible hybrid creatures. Yes. You know those are probably very very accurate. And my guess is that it's probably happening today just we don't know about it it's probably you know assigned to some black ops. Secret government project where they're cloning breeding people with other creatures and seeing what they can come up with. And you know you believe me it's probably happening. Well you know that myth that so called mythical creature pan who has the human of body in torso. But he's got the goat legs or the sheep legs on the bottom with his clothing hoops. Yeah maybe they made him you know. Well exactly I mean and and according to some of the translations of the Sumerian tablets that's exactly what they say that they created these creatures they they cross DNA of ape light creatures. The astral Pacificus the homo erectus across their DNA and they they found you know they created horrible creatures that obviously were completely useless in a. In an intelligent kind of. Productive environment or relatively in productive environment of work and getting gold out of the ground. When they finally honed in on us and created us in the image we are now were we in their image. That's what it seems like it's definitely seems like it it was it was in their image. However the the unenarchy are described to be tall and blue iron blonde. The creature or the homo sapiens they created was a might have been in the image in the sort of general physical anthropomorphic shape. And had a smooth skin like they did but it was a reddish a darker darker skin and a reddish skin they call it red like the soil of the after the color of the African soil. And I must tell you I mean I'm sure you got the same color in the United States but but I've just come down from a mountain near the border of Botswana where I went to investigate this another section of this loss of the realization and it's all the same I'm just finding all the same direct links the same tools they were making the same stone they were using. But when I was coming down the mountain there was this disturbed soil and the red color of that soil was just so striking and so rich that that phrase from the Sumerian tablets just came to me loud and clear you know when in case I've made him in my image. And in my liking my image and his color the skin of we've created the creature and his his hair was short and curly and his skin was the color the reddish of the color of the African soil and when I saw that color it just came. Shouting back at me and I remembered that whole thing. Now did they jump start the age of the workers or did they have to wait 20 years before it became somewhat of an adult and then but then then they put the creature to work. Yeah that's again you see these are the things that once you start exploring these ruins and you realize that we're dealing with this first civilization on earth we're dealing with a lust city of Enki this is it. The right in the middle of it. The mysterious lust city of Enki what everyone's been looking for for decades and possibly millennia right now we write in the middle of it and then you start thinking about the pragmatic. And the the physical processes that had to happen here okay so neither to start cloning and creating this new species to help you work in the minds. Okay well how do you go about this first of all as we know they they bred them through their their breeding surrogate mothers and they kept popping them out but now that's not a very clever thing to do with it because the. It's slow. It's a very slow process you got to first bring up the babies from screaming changing their nappies. So the terrible tools in the horrible force and and eventually when I get to the age of 16 you say okay well now you're going to leave your mother you got to go work be a slave in the in the minds. Yeah. It's not exactly the kind of situation you want you don't want attachment by this new species to any kind of mother figure. What struck me is that they must have had cloning tanks down here and and actually cloned these this new species up to intern adult stage and that's exactly what what we found we found these some of these stone run. Oh, very. Of our very specific shape. And they like hexagonal and I'm sure that you you're ready when you hear the word hexagonal alarm bell start ringing because the hexagon is a very powerful structure shape for the flow of energy. Exactly. So when you see these hexagonal. Kind of stone runes. They're not very big. They're probably about two and a three meters across if that. And and they're they're clustered together like a honeycomb. And it's spectacular. You go what the hell is this for? No, they could have had hundreds of thousands of these are cloning tubes exactly. What they had George these we find these they are hundreds and thousands of these little. Exagonal chambers clustered together like honeycubs and like honeycomb. And if you think about it, you know, how to be breed and ants and all that same way. Yeah, you're looking like an ant nest where a business where they where the little babies come out of or the where the bees come out of. And in this case, they may have come out full sized baby full size in fact that's what I asked in my channel. I said, you know, how long did it take to breed or to clone the the workers from from start to an adult size where they could come out and be immediately productive in the gold mine. And the answer was the normal full term. So we're looking at nine months to clone from inception to fully cloned human being. That's amazing. Now, why did they abandon the planet something happened? Yeah, this is this is this is the big mystery here and until you. The the biggest mystery is not the fact that we have now found this giant city that is that is just so huge boggles of mind. It makes Los Angeles and Johannesburg and London look like a joke. Oh my god. It's that big. Oh, much much larger. Much much much larger. I'm talking about 10,000 square kilometers. So city maybe we should just quickly quickly go over the size of the store. Yeah, okay. Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that because we're going to spend another hour next hour talking about this Michael and then in the last hour we're going to take phone calls. So go ahead. Explain. Excellent. So, so when we I'm going to first to just take your view. Listen is on a little journey. So let's quickly start with the estimates in the past throughout history. How many are people that have come to know about these ruins in an estimated how many they were? Okay. Well, the brilliant theater all bent to our mentioned earlier, who is the first guy to excavate grades in Barbewe. In 1891, he estimated that there were about 4,000 of these stone structures. Now, remember he was on foot, he was tracking through what was then a very dangerous part of the world. There were lines everywhere in wild animals. It was not an easy place to explore in those days because you're always always possible food for some creatures somewhere. And then by 1974, there was a chap called Roger Summers who wrote about, I think, three of four books on the ruins of Southern Africa. And he did a beautiful calculation and he at that stage calculated that there were about 20,000 of these stone ruins in Southern Africa. Now, already 20,000 is a large number because remember currently our current history books tell us that Southern Africa until about a thousand years ago was extremely sparsely populated. There were only a few thousand people living here. And they were mostly hunter-gatherers. Now, suddenly we get someone tells us that 20,000 stone ruins, circular large, circular stone structures, it already doesn't compute. No, it doesn't something happen. And then, then you're on high and they started photographing this about 20 years ago and realizing that there are many more than just 20,000 of these. I've got involved with you on in 2007 and we started really exploring this with great energy. And haven't stopped. By about a year ago, I estimated there were at least a hundred thousand of these ruins. I'm at a phone call to the ex head of archaeology at the University, Professor Rival Mason. And when I asked him, Rival, you've been studying these ruins for a long time. How many do you think they were? And he just off the bat said, oh, there is at least a hundred thousand of these. And that's fantastic because that's exactly how many I think they are. He must be at least a hundred thousand of these ruins. And then I said to him, but that tells us that there must have been at least probably a million or two million or ten million people living here. And he went, oh, well, then that can't be a hundred thousand. And you see what happens there is that our academics have a theory. And they've collected this right away. Exactly. They try and force the evidence into their theory instead of taking the evidence and formulating a new theory based on your evidence. Exactly. Just like the guys in CSI do, I mean the guys in CSI wouldn't get anywhere if they had a theory and trying to put the evidence into their theory. Have any other explorers in, you know, in mass just gone down to that area to do some work. Some amazing that they've just left it. It's just there, huh? No, the only two people who are doing any work on this is you're on high and in myself as incredible as a ton. And I'm not it. It may come across it a bit arrogant, but that's what it is. Why do you have helpers? You must have. No, no, no, no, no, no. You discovered one of the greatest finds of all mankind in the, in, and it's just the two of you that that's incredible. Michael, we, we're already at the top of the hour. We're going to come back with more. I want to get into the Anonaki. I want to get your take on why you think they left. Then we'll talk more about the ruins on Costa coast. Damn. Fascinating discussion with Michael telling us we talk about some of his work. Temples of the African gods, his latest work as we also talk about the Anonaki more to come in a moment on coast to coast. Damn. Michael, I'm very spiritual. Some of the things we'll be talking about tonight. Some may think that we're conflicting with the Bible. I don't think it does. I think the Bible truly is a remarkable, remarkable book. And that it's subject to interpretation. It's subject to trying to decipher what it meant at that particular time. With that being said, let's talk about the flood. There in Noah's era that you mentioned some time ago. You know, the Bible would say was God's way of cleansing the planet, getting rid of evil. And, you know, he saved Noah in a small group of people and some animals. I am wondering if Noah was tipped off by, let's say, the Anonaki who took off for some reason and was the flood caused, for example, by an asteroid that hit the planet and caused the massive tsunami, for example. What do you say? Yeah, absolutely. The flood, the flood, which is now, generally, accepted by, you know, meteorologists and geologists and historians and so forth, seemed to have happened around 13,000 years ago. And give all take of, you know, 300 years either way. But whatever, it said, there was a huge geophysical event that happened at that stage. It may also link up with the work of Paul Love Your Let and the giant pressure waves that come from the center of the galaxy and all these things. But so there's a numerous scientific and cosmological events that could have contributed to this event. But I think, primarily, it would have been probably caused by the coming into very close proximity of planet Earth. I was a very large celestial body, whether it was another planet, like the Sumerian Nebiru or the Anonaki's Nebiru or a giant comet. Or something like that. But it definitely caused huge geophysical disturbances, which, according to the Sumerian tablets, caused the entire Antarctic ice sheet to slip into the ocean. And that was the real main course for the giant wave or the flood that destroyed the planet. And that is a huge, huge realization, because this entire discovery of ours here in South Africa shows evidence of such a flood. And that is the most exciting link that we've made. And why this very vast ancient civilization just vanished out of sight. I believe that it's because of the flood, 13,000 years ago. And we can see the sediment on the ruins, meters and meters. Sometimes 20, maybe even 30 meters of sediment that has been settled, but deposited on these ancient cities down here. And we can also see it especially in the valley below Adams calendar, where we incidently also have pyramids. I believe they are the first pyramids ever built on earth. Enki pyramids, they are three pyramids, two large ones and one smaller one, just like in the pyramids and Giza. And they are directly aligned with the rise of the rise of the rise of the rise of the rise of the rise of the rise of the rise. Exactly. So it starts to really link up everything we see down here. The structures, the faces, the horror stones that we found, the pyramids that we found all linked to Adams calendar. And I also linked to all the symbols that we find much later in northern civilizations. But all of this was destroyed, I believe, by the flood some 13,000 years ago, which the unannocony about, the new the flood was going to happen because they realized that this giant celestial body was going to cause geophysical disturbances. At that stage, the Sumerian Tabith tell us they were going to allow the flood to basically destroy the planet because the population of humans has just grown out of control. And they needed to pretty much wipe them out. Allow the floods to do its natural thing. But as you said, it seems like Enki was the creator of this whole new species, Hermes Sapien. He told one or two of the characters down here how to survive, gave them instructions how to build a submersible boat because you couldn't just have a boat, it would have to be submersible. And they survived and they went and they gave them instructions how to collect the essence of the animals and the seeds and the plants, the essence of the plants and the animals, not the animals themselves. And you can very quickly figure out that it's not going to be possible to bring animals to by two on to a boat. So clearly Enki realized that there was this huge catastrophe looming and he wanted to create some sort of a vault of seeds and DNA to repopulate the planet after the last. Which is what they're doing now? Exactly. Exactly. Just we were talking before the break we were talking about the numbers of these ruins. Yeah. And we didn't quite get to the real aha moment. Because once I realized that there were about a hundred thousand of these and then suddenly a few months later my estimate went up to 200 thousand. And before I published and released a temples of African gods incidentally that book will be in the United States and the UK in May this year and next month. It will be available next month. So where ahead of the game here? Yeah. Yeah. Once I realized before I went to print on the book I thought, you know, I can't just thumb suck a number because that's what everybody else has been doing. And I want to be slightly more scientific about it and what's the benefit of aerial photography and satellite photography. You can do a lot more be a lot more specific and accurate. And remember that I've been walking these mountains and these ruins for a number of years now. So it's only once you've been at the ruins on ground level. And you know what they look like on the ground. Then you look at the satellite photographs and you see what that aerial looks like from satellite. Then you can suddenly compute, okay, that sort of looks like from the satellite pictures. Now you can start extrapolating that and looking at other areas and seeing where you see the same formations. And that's when suddenly the light went on for me and I discovered what I'm not called a three lost ancient cities. One is in the area that I live in which is near Vartalford, Burf and in the Palonga. That's where that's where it really is thick and dense. Then the other one is near Rastonburg, where I actually went to school, which also incorporates the Sun City, the Holiday Resort of Sun City, where they play the golf tournament area. They built the palace of the last city they accidentally on the ancient civilizations. They're not even aware of this. There's another lost city there and then there's the other one which is incorporates great and barbed way and the large area around it. Now each one of those cities, those lost vanished cities, has probably about 10,000 square kilometers. So it's about 100, 100 kilometers to 60 by 60 miles. Huge. So if you compare that to the size of LA or London, it's a lot bigger than that. And these were all ancient gold mining sites as well. These are exactly exactly exactly. And then I started counting on Google and on satellite. How many of these they are? And I estimate that there are at least 3 million of these turnpoints per lost city. Let me ask you this Michael, regard, let's just toss out for a moment the Anonaki theory, which I think is the most plausible. But let's just toss that out. How old are these ruins? What do you think? The dating is going back to about 280,300,000 years around there. The fascinating thing is... Yeah, George, it's... What we've done, this is so much ground to cover here that it's just like, I'm sort of gotping for air trying to know, like, where should I go next? You know, that's just incredible. With the stone tools, remember we've now... We've now uncovered a completely different class in the type of stone tool that is directly linked to these stone structures and these settlements. And they are completely different from any other stone tools. In fact, when I started collecting these tools and showing them to archaeologists, they told me I was stupid. I didn't know what I was doing and I'm wasting my time. And we've realized now that this is a whole new class of stone tools that has never been recognized before. And we've got them by the thousands. What are they doing? They are very conical kind of stone. A stone that's been shaped into a very conical... Like an ice cream cone almost. It's around at the top with a slight edge on the one side and then comes down to a point on the other side. And this is just a repetition of this particular stone tool. What they use it for, I have no idea. But what we do know is that they were not carved or chipped. They were molded. That's what makes them so unique. They were molded. They were molded. Now a few other anomalies that we have to throw out, there is that all these millions of stone ruins were built from the same kind of stone. They didn't just use any kind of stone that was lying around. It was a very specific stone. This was stone that was there, did they bring it in? No, it was brought from elsewhere. It's not necessarily always the bedrock stone where the structures are. It seems to have been brought from other areas in the riverbeds, because all the stones that formed original structures. We've got to distinguish now. We're dealing with thousands of, we see in the thousands of your period here. So they've been many civilizations that have come since and rebuilt on top of these original structures. And that's what causes the confusion. But archaeologists. That sort of confuses a lot of archaeologists. And the poor guys just don't know where to turn, because they don't have the broader sort of background of the unenarchy and the gold mines. So they look at the ruins and they see, okay, well, this was built by the migrating tribes from the north about 200 or 400 years ago. And that's where it ends. Okay. They need to have a basis of this historical event in order to even move forward. I think that's something. Now the stones are all the same stones. The original structures. And then you see the, you know, the latest civilizations using other stones on top. What, why did, what, why did they have doorways? Well, they, they didn't have doorways. And this is the other anomaly. They didn't, the original circles did not have any entrances or doorways. And that is, Rick, that is written on many archaeological reports from, you know, over 100 years ago already. And that was one of the anomalies that has caused a lot of confusion. How do you build a circular stone structure, which is either dwelling or a place of worship or a place of work, or whatever. We're not always. And you know, then in the next breath are very clever historians say, well, it must have been built by a small family of 15 to 20 people as they were migrating south. And then you go, you know, which planet do you come from, dude? Do you have any sort of boxes? They probably came from the viewer. Yeah, have you thought about this practically? Well, one sentence you say, wow, here's this huge structure that has got a hundred meters of conference. There's a lot of internal complex internal structures, but there's not doorway and no entrance. And then suddenly you realize that each one of these ancient original stone circles was linked by a road or a channel of sort. That was walled. These walled road to run for thousands and thousands of kilometers linking each and every single one of these original stone circles. How tall were the walls? That bog was the mine. How tall were the walls? At the moment, the tallest wall we have in the ruins is about three meters tall. So it's about nine feet. Right. Pretty good size. Some of them at some of them are reasonably tall, but most of them have been reduced down to, you know, four or five feet. There's got to be a reason why these channels or if that's what they were were built. There's got to be some purpose. I'll think it's not to direct people to walk in and out or maybe it is. Yeah, that's the, thank you, George. You put your finger right into the most important aspect of this. And this is why our journey of discovery has been such an exciting thing because, you know, you first look at these aerial photographs. And you see, oh, look at all these roads linking these circles together. There are thousands of them. And they all go straight into the circle, but they don't have any entrances. Once again, they are no doors or entrances in or out of these channels or these roads. They run into the circle and they end either on the outer wall or if they don't. And they go into the inner circle and they end in, at the wall of one of the internal structures. Now, each and every one of these stone circles is unique. It is a unique, a completely unique structure. It's almost as if it's a fingerprint of some sort of fluff energy or something. Now, when you start looking at the stones, the kind of stone that was used to construct these ruins. And you realize that they ring like bells. Suddenly, the alarm bells start to ring. And if you know anything about sound frequency. Yep, there's some resonance there, right? Exactly. When are we dealing with circular structures built of stones? They know, they know as horn cells. They are metamorphicized, quartet. It's about 54% silica to oxide. And about 24% aluminium and about 18% iron. And the rest is really insignificant, but it's those three metals that are the most significant component of this. These things are like, it was like an energy plant or something. Exactly. That's exactly what it is. And it took us how many years to figure this out. You know, when you have these beautiful stones that ring like bells. And they truly, it's spectacular. When you ring one of them and it rings from various frequencies. We incidentally, I recorded these frequencies. And we got the recordings down from about 200 hertz up to about 16,000 hertz. Now that's very close to the human audible spectrum. Yeah. That frequency. But I guess there'll be a lot lower and there'll go a lot higher. We didn't, you know, we went out for one day, recorded a whole bunch of them and then went to the studio to analyze it. Was this energy used to power up their cities? Correct. Now, this is what we discovered is that, and this is what I figure, right? So, here we got circular stone structures, made of stones at ring like bells. And they also have other interesting properties. This particular rock of silica dioxide incidentally also is supposed to give off pockets of electromagnetic energy. This is the work that was done by Dan Burish and his research project. And they found that silica dioxide in specific concentrations gives off what they call these pockets of electromagnetic energy. So now we got stone circular structures linked by these channels all made from the same stone that ring like bells, having credible audio properties, have high content of silica dioxide, which we know is basically quartz crystal, right, which are very strong energy devices. And they give off pockets of electromagnetic energy. It screams that these were energy devices. And how did they generate energy? I believe that they created what we would call a standing wave that went around and around the outside wall. Now, you know that the Junction Unke was actually an energy generating frequency device. And once again, for your listeners, the Egyptian Unke is no longer an Egyptian Unke, it is now a South African Unke, as we have 200 or 300,000 year old petroglyphs, beautiful carvings of unke inside radiating circles that are discovered, carved into diorites and an decide which is the second hardest rock you can find, with incredible signs of erosion on it. So we know that whoever lived down here, these first people already knew the symbol of the unke and an energy frequency and its vibrational frequency potential. And I believe that the unke was like the tuning fork or the device that was used to kick start this circular standing wave sound frequency that went around the walls of the stunned runs. Do you know if we could duplicate that today? Michael, what we would be able to do for free energy and everything else? Exactly, that's it. You know, I like it now thinking about these things because clearly these guys knew stuff that we have only rediscovered people like Nicola Tesla probably tapped into that same body of information. And then his information was removed from the planet very quickly. Before him it was the wonderful John Kelly who I believe was actually the real great master of the last 120 years who also discovered the frequency of the power of the sound frequency. And then obviously also Royal Raymond Dryford, you know the man who fired the cure for all disease. What look at they did to him? Exactly. You know, so we all dealing with the three very important figures in recent human history that used sound vibrational frequency for free energy to cure all disease, for light, for all these kind of things. Michael, when we come back, I want to ask you if you believe the ununake may still be coming back here will be back. And of course next hour we're going to take your phone calls with Michael Telenzure just an incredible story in those more when we come right back on coast to coast to. Michael, do you think the ununake if they were here, they probably if they're still in existence, they've come back. Do you think they have? Yeah, again one of those questions that everybody wants to know and have a different amount of answer to. And you know the more the more I look at this and the more I study these ruins realizing this is the work of the ununake. I believe that there's still some ununake left here. I don't think all of them had left. Whether we ever going to meet them or find them that's another question. I'm not sure if any of you all the people have interviewed in the past claim they've made some of the ununake. I believe they still some ununake left on planet earth. But by the same token I believe that they have evolved themselves just like we've evolved and it's inevitable process and we know so much more about DNA and how. DNA responds to this. From audio lights or something the galactic center and that is an unstoppable, unstoppable process of evolution that we just constantly move towards higher consciousness. And I guess the same could be said for the ununake. So while we're evolving they've been evolving over a long period of time. And it's possible that they might even exist in different physical structures. They may no longer be in a physical form. Maybe they've moved on to a high energy level and and be called beings of light or something like that. And I'm suspecting that there could be something like that going on. What about the planet, Nebiro, according to Zachariah Sitchan in his work, it's on a 3600 year elliptical orbit. So it comes around every 3600 years. I was with him a few months ago in Los Angeles where he was given the lifetime achievement award for the conscious life expo. And he said it probably won't be around for at least another 15 to 2000 years. Do you think it's still out there in the solar system? I absolutely I believe it out there. I'm very glad to hear you say that because that was my calculation as well. Probably about 1600 years or so before it's back. However, we've got to be very careful here that you know, once a planet is out in deep space in Deep orbit in 3,600 years away from the sun. Very small deviation in its orbit will have a profound effect on what happens when it comes closer to the sun. And vice versa. So every time Nebiro comes or any planet or asteroid or comet comes around the sun, it will have a slight effect on what happens to in Deep space. And we may not see it in our lifetime because we only around for such a short space at the time. But when you observe it over a few million years or a few hundred thousand years, it will have a probably giant deviation from its original path. So that's a whole player role. Yeah. Well, your work has been just fantastic and it's hard to believe that just you and your hand were the only two that are working on that. You should be given some kind of noble price for this. Well, you know, George, it's not that they are others working on the ruins. But unfortunately, they're just looking at it from a 200 or 400 year old history. For the most recent, the most recent settlers and they scratch around, they find a few potchards and some few beads and things. And I say, oh, you see this is evidence of the Sudutuan culture or the evidence of the petty culture. And they say, see, it can't be more than 400 years old. And then I very quickly want to remind them that, you know, rule number one in archaeology is that civilisations build on top of each other. And it seems to be the first rule that our friends forget when they leave university. So I get a little irritated when they start doing that because they just, you know, what looked happening in Rome and in London and in Paris when they discovering the lost cities under what we think we know very well, you know, ancient history of these cities that we knew nothing about. So you can imagine how much mystery lies below the sand here in Southern Africa. Of the largest city ever built, stone city, by Enky himself. And we think that, you know, by scratching around the surface, we're going to get some answers. That's not going to work. Don't they see the difference between a 300 or 400,000 year old structure? And something that was made 300 years ago. Can't they see that? Well, obviously they don't. And just because I'm just, I can just imagine you're listening to the going, now, well, how do you know that 300,000 years old? So I better quickly jump in and explain why we have such evidence. Right. You can't carbonate stone. So go ahead. Yeah, exactly. The first thing people asked, well, did you do any carbon dating and say, well, you're not really, as you say, you can't carbonate stones. So we got to work with every other scientific principle that we can embrace and get some scientific data or data back from that research. And so we look at all kinds of things. First of all, I've already mentioned the alignment with the rise of the right, the rise of the belt alignment with the Adam's calendar. The fact that we have a horror stone, which marked the rising of the sun on the spring equinox, a long, long time ago, the fact that we find a small little sphinx, a carved out of beautiful sphinx, carved out of stone, a few hundred meters north of Adam's calendar. And so forth, the alignment to the rise belt only starts to make sense when you go way over a hundred thousand years. Otherwise it doesn't seem to compute and align. Okay. So we dealing with something that the least hundred thousand years old, probably a lot older. Then we start looking at erosion on the stones. We dealing with a two very, very hard stones. We dealing with a with that dollar right, dollar right is a very hard stone. It also has very strong acoustic and magnetic properties. And then the other stone that is used in the dollar right incidentally is used at Adam's calendar. All the stone at Adam's calendar is dollar right. And it was brought from some distance away to build on the edge of the cliff. It is not part of the bedrock. And then the erosion on the rocks is a very, very good indicator of its age. These rocks do not erode quickly. And when you see some of the eroded edges where we see breaks on one of the stones at Adam's calendar, there's at least a centimeter or two of erosion on the broken edge. Now, you know, we start dealing in hundreds of thousands of years and not just, you know, hundreds or a few thousand years. Right. If you didn't, if you didn't know about the story of the Anonaki, if you didn't know that at all, would you still be saying, this is much older than most people are saying? Absolutely. It's purely just scientific observation. Even if I have always oblivious of the Anonaki, which incidentally most of the archaeologists here are, they just are oblivious. And I have an email received from the head of anthropology at the big university in South Africa a few weeks ago saying that he finds my work preposterous and devoid of any scientific merit. I found that quite interesting because archaeology is not exactly a scientific study. I didn't want to remind him of that, but anyway. What we find is the erosion is a very, very good indicator. And then the other thing is the patina growth. And this is a beautiful, beautiful scientific argument that is very difficult to argue against. Now explain that. What is that? The patina growth, the patina is what you would call the skin of the rock. Okay. And when you break a rock, you'll see very quickly. The inside of the rock is a darker or a different color from the outside of the rock. And the particular rock that we have here that has been used in the construction of the ruins is, as I mentioned earlier, it's called the horn felt. It's an actual name, the horn felt named after German geologist. And when this rock is exposed to outside air and the outside elements, it starts to grow this patina, the skin, which is a combination of oxidization, of calcification, of all kinds of chemical processes that on the surface of the rock that are guided by an aided by oxygen and rain. And the climatic circumstances. And this particular patina grows very, very slowly. It grows about 5,000 years from current research available. It grows about 5,000 years for the first microscopic layer to form. Now we've got beautiful examples of monoliths that are built into these walls that have broken. Where we see the growth of the patina back to a 1 or 2 millimeters, which tells us that that rock has been in situ in that stone wall, for at least 100,000 years probably way over 200,000 years just based on the growth of the patina. And that is a phenomenal discovery and not something you can just shove under the carpet conveniently and say, well, it's just built by the migrating tribes 200 years ago. Does that doesn't wash? Does the Zechariah know of your work? You know of his. Does he know his work? I've read all Zechariah's work. Look, the new book, Templars of African Gods, is just about to be released in America. And really, only when it is released in America, does it really hit the main frame of global attention? So I expect as of May this year, next month, we'll get some real attention on the discovery. I plan to visit the United States in July, July August to do my first visit to the States and do a number of talks. I hope to, you know, they contact with people and organizations that will help me do this to her. Would you be in the LA area? I must come to LA, of course. I must come to LA. I'll be there then. So let's get together. Well, what I'd like to do while we've got this platform is to say, for those people that are in the media or in the events sort of area who feel they can get involved with my trip to the States to take this message to the American people. Please email me and tell me, look, we can help you understand or this city or this state. And that'll certainly help me a great deal. Remember, I'm a self-published author. I don't have a huge publisher behind me to set this up and organize this for me, sir. Well, maybe we've got to change that for you, too, Michael. So we deal, well, George, I appreciate it. And it really, if it wasn't for you and the fact that you took a chance on interviewing me when I first released Slay, I first released Slay, Species of God, we wouldn't be here today. And I probably would not have made the discoveries. It's really people like you that have been played a very important role in the discoveries that you're nine and I've made, because it's kept the flame going. Otherwise, it would have died a long time ago. Well, it's an incredible flame. It's a flame that needs to stay lit and you've done a great job doing that, Michael. And it's just, to me, there's nothing more fascinating and exciting than our history. It's something where we can find out once and for all who are we, why we're here. And let me tell you why I think your work and Citian's work happens to be so exciting, because even though I'm a staunch believer that we were genetically altered, that the Anonaki came here, doesn't negate the fact that there is a divine creator who played a part in their existence. Absolutely. Absolutely. And it is important for me to state this, because what I find interesting, I'm getting more and more Christian groups and religious groups that are part of established religion, coming to my talks in my presentations, because I never, I never, ever denounced the existence of a divine creator or a divine being. You can't. You can't do that, exactly. In fact, I just separate and distinguish between God with a big G, and then these, these, the end of God with a small G, that came to planet Earth and created a new being and used them for their purposes, and then things all went very, very wrong and belly up. And, and it's very interesting when you start looking at the knowledge of these, these people here in Southern Africa, and then technology they used for generating energy, vibrational frequency, they're knowledge of vibrational frequency energy for liberating things for crashing the stone, for separating the gold and the platinum and all the other metals that they were mining, including iron, separating them, and smelting them, and then using them for whatever they were using them, they had knowledge of vibrational energy vibrational frequency. Now, we mentioned before the break that it was only recently a hundred odd years ago that people like John Keeley and Nicola Tesla and Royal Rye, rediscovered the power of this vibrational frequency, specifically a frequency of sound, and they started applying that in their own field of science. But that information was very swiftly removed from the society, because, you know, the illuminati do not want us to have that knowledge, because that frees us from the prison. There was there was a little frail guy, 120 pounds, his name was Edward Leads Skolnand, and he came from Eastern Europe, came to the United States, settled in in Florida. He constructed by himself a stone block, small little town, basically, it was really, you know, it was like you would consider it a house, and he did it all by himself, moving these stones that were huge. And he said he knew the secrets of the pyramids. I think it had to do with magnatics and resonance and everything else. Exactly. And I find interesting as well, when I've taken some open-minded geologists, geologists that are not working in the mainframe and have to abide by the geological societies rules that can allow themselves to think about freely. When I take them to the ruins and they see some of the shapes of the stones, they just freak out. They say this is not possible. These stones do not make any sense. It looks like somebody had molded it into that shape and then without heating it up and then led it to set or dry. Because somebody stones in the ruins are first of all they don't belong there and they don't belong in that area. And then secondly they very rounded and then in their rounded shape they develop these very strange cracks along the surface, which don't make any sense in geological terms. And then to ask if somebody knew the secret to manipulate the energy flow through that rock, the vibrational frequency, so that they could soften it by plight or thin and emolding clay and then mold it into a circular or rather a spherical shape and then led it dry. And then because they disturb the molecular structure of that particular rock, it then shows these interesting cracking patterns on the outside surface. But these are just some of the anomalies that we discovered. What I want to bring to your attention as well before we go to the break at the top of the hour is the energy devices that these guys were building the structures and the shapes of these ruins. That once again we rediscovered in the 1950s and 1940s. Some of the on the Makimati website there is also a picture of one of the stone structures which was in the 1940s used by the Japanese to design and create what they called the death ray. Yes, I believe they would have, I believe they would have borrowed that from Nicola Tesla. And they were designing the weapon with which they were going to smite the ally armies, right? They wanted to knock planes out of the sky. You name it, you name it. Exactly. And they did that with this device called the death ray. And when you go and look at the schematics and the drawings of the death ray, it was basically a little small dish, like a satellite dish, maybe a meter or two in diameter. And at its heart is what they call a clic-tron or a magnetron. And the magnetron in the clic-tron is probably not more than six inches in diameter. And it was that device and the shape of that device that caused the generation of the very high powerful vibrational frequency with which they then used that became the death ray. Now, if you use that today, I bet you could cause an earthquake. Well, now you really put your finger right into the middle of this because now we're getting a direct link, not only to the ancient civilizations, yeah, but also to the sinking of Atlantis. Okay. Before the previous break, you mentioned you picked up immediately that these stone circular structures with all these channels and roads that link them together without any doors or entrances. And sometimes multiple concentric circles, okay, link to these channels or these circle-droid roads, each one is linked. Okay. These were energy devices. There's no question about that. There is no other plausible scientific explanation for it. They certainly will not roads to drive cattle on, which is what our historians would like us to believe. And they weren't dwellings because they had no entrances. Okay. So they must have been something else and that's something else were energy devices to drive this huge population of probably 5,200 million people that lived here over a 270,000 year period mining gold. They needed energy from somewhere for all this activity. And many of these clustered areas are very specifically energy devices. Now, when you look at the shape of a clustered or a magnetron in the Japanese this way, it is identical. And I mean identical to the stone ruins that we have done here. Many of the stone ruins accept that the stone ruins are 20 meters in diameter. While the clustered on an magnetron in the this way was 6 inches in diameter. So you can imagine the immense power. Huge. Stay with us. We're going to take phone calls next hour, Michael, with you. I'm Costa Costa. You You