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Compare travel across North America now with that of 200 years wanting to admit that alien spacecraft have downed American vehicles when fired at, etc. Who speaks for Earth? Can't hold an election because China and India ave far more people. Everything depends on how the disclosure is conducted. There were many different responses to desegregation aws, depending on how leaders presented the rules. “Everything depends on how the disclosure is conducted.” {Avon Press, New York, 1970; Westview Press, Boulder, 1997]. It's hard to determine a pattern when we have so little of the best data. Surely we are much more of an imminent threat to the neighbourhood, now that interstellar travel is looming and we have H-bombs, than in the past. The aliens may have felt that a rapid, multipronged surveillance is required, rather than the patience which was available before we became able to travel in space and kill larger numbers than ever before. For all I know, the slow-flying triangles may be ours. ago. FJ: The US government and most governments around the world can never publicly acknowledge the reality of UFOs because to do so would be to admit that our leaders are helpless in preventing at least thousands or possibly millions of our fellow citizens from being continuously abducted against their will and tortured. The political consequences of admitting the existence of such inhuman terrorism could thoroughly shatter all public faith in government and cause swift degeneration into social dislocation. What is your opinion of this conclusion? SF: I don't think most abductions involve torture, though many Earthlings torture others. How much aith does the public have in government? I have spelled out several reasons or the cover-up in my book Flying Saucers and Science |New Page Books, New Jersey, 2008] and on my website ttp://www.stantonfriedman.com, including not wanting to reveal echnical data learned, not wanting o offend religious leaders, not wanting to give up power, not “Everything depends on how the disclosure is FJ: What is the purpose of extraterrestrial cattle mutilation? Is it genetic experimentation, organ harvesting—to what end—and why almost always are the eyes, lips and reproductive organs removed? SF: 1 have no idea—though, of course, we kill millions of cattle every year without a second thought. Maybe it is like cutting up a frog ina high school biology course, a teaching tool, PhD project, etc. conducted.” FJ: Since the official beginning of the UFO era in 1947, the phenomenon has gone from sightings of circular and_ cigar- shaped objects to human abductions, then cattle mutilations and now the appearance of slow- moving, gigantic, low-flying triangles. Is there a recognisable pattern in any of this? SF: UFOs have been around a lot longer than 1947. See Dr Barry Downing's The Bible and Flying Saucers UFO in FJ: You have often stated that the Earth is being "quarantined" by extraterrestrials. What do you mean? SF: | have said that one reason for coming here at this time in such great numbers is to be sure that we can't go out there with our brand of friendship: hostility. After all, we Earthlings killed 50 million of our own kind and destroyed 1,700 cities in World War Two, and we allow over 10 million to die every year of preventable disease and starvation—hardly an advanced, friendly civilisation. FJ: At what point, if ever, do you think Earthlings will have, as it were, "crossed the line", when the aliens will declare themselves to us in no uncertain terms? 68 * NEXUS APRIL - MAY 2012 Continued on page 83) www.nexusmagazine.com