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encounter have been confined to Antarctica? Why wouldn't the Nazis and the beings have flown all over the world in those same saucers, knocking every plane out of the sky and taking over anyway? Stein: I think when this thing happened down in Antarctica that beat us so badly, the US started working on the Marshall Plan to re-build Europe, and that was almost like a peace treaty: the aliens would not touch our cities if we re-built Europe. encounter have been confined to Antarctica? Why SECRET clearance, I never used my real name with the wouldn't the Nazis and the beings have flown all over the CIA. I had a cover name that I used. [T]he only reason I world in those same saucers, knocking every plane out of — got out, you might say, alive in that early time of 1960 the sky and taking over anyway? after four years is because of the name I used. Stein: I think when this thing happened down in Two weeks after I got out, what the CIA was doing at Antarctica that beat us so badly, the US started working _ that time was they had a group that would pick up on the Marshall Plan to re-build Europe, and that was derelicts that had died downtown, near our military base, almost like a peace treaty: the aliens would not touch _ of alcoholism or overdosing on drugs. That clandestine our cities if we re-built Europe. group put my CIA name and others' identities on those dead people. Then the body or bodies would be LMH: The Marshall Plan was a capitulation to the | cremated and the ashes scattered somewhere so no one Nazis and the extraterrestrials? could dig up any body again. My CIA Stein: Yes, I think so. name and identity ended up "dead" a couple of weeks after I left. That name LMH: But that does not explain...if died. they had that kind of overwhelming Of the twenty-fouur people who technology, why wouldn't they have were in that CIA unit, my boss died of simply taken over the world anyway? Stein: I don't know. natural causes and I got out, but I was the only one who survived out of that "That clandestine group put my CIA group. The others never made it out LMH: I don't understand why | because they started getting involved German Nazis lost World War II if name and others with spying in Russia and Turkey and there were six-fingered extraterrestrial | at they were all killed. beings that had technology and were identities on those I managed to get out through the teaching the Nazis how to build their dead people. help of my boss, but my wife never advanced aerial craft. Those same beings could do whatever they wanted to on this planet. So, why did they not move against the United States, England, Australia, the Allies, if they demonstrated in Antarctica they could take out of the sky any plane they wanted to? Stein: I don't know. knew anything about this until about one year ago [in 1997]. Everything we worked on was classified for thirty or thirty-five years. So, by the mid-1990s, the classifying was over and you have a lot of people now coming out, like that military officer who wrote the book [Retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Philip J. Corso, The Day After Roswell, 1997]. Some are talking now because they feel they can do it safely. oo Then the body or bodies would be cremated and the ashes scattered..." LMH: Did you ever see any hard text in documents between 1957 to 1960 about agendas of the six-fingered beings or the smaller Grey spindly ones? Stein: No, the only reference I saw in the documents About the Interviewer: boiled down to: "We would like to know what they are — Linda Moulton Howe is an Emmy Award-winning TV really up to." I have seen that comment, or something _ producer, investigative journalist and author who along those lines, dozens of times. reports for and edits the Earthfiles.com website. She te tha nendiinne af tha Anciimantan, filer A Ct LMH: The Marshall Plan was a capitulation to the Nazis and the extraterrestrials? Stein: Yes, I think so. group put my CIA name and others' dead people. Then the body or bodies would be ago About the Interviewer: Linda Moulton Howe is an Emmy Award-winning TV producer, investigative journalist and author who reports for and edits the Earthfiles.com website. She is the producer of the documentary film A Strange Harvest (about unexplained cattle mutilations in the USA), and the author of the two-volume book Glimpses of Other Realities (see review of Volume II: High Strangeness in NEXUS 5/05) and Mysterious Lights and Crop Circles (NEXUS 8/05). Her articles have often been published in NEXUS, most recently her interview with Carol Rosin, "Preventing the Weaponisation of Space" (NEXUS 11/06). LMH: When did you leave the army? Stein: [In] 1960. LMH: You left the CIA and the army at the same time? Stein: Yes. There were twenty-four of us in our CIA/Army group at that time and there were new people com[ing] in. What happens in the CIA is that you don't really retire. It's like an ancient gladiator group: you don't have to worry about old age and retirement. My boss died in the mid-1970s. When I first got into it through the back door by helping him and getting a TOP Editor's Note: To read additional interviews with "Stein", subscribe to the website http://www.earthfiles.com. 54 ¢ NEXUS "That clandestine identities on those cremated and the ashes scattered..." www.nexusmagazine.com FEBRUARY — MARCH 2009