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money. I think he controlled 25 per cent of all the wealth in the food. Without it, you die. US at the time. The reason why the Rockefellers do not appear KC: Basically you keep people busy by sending them to war? as so "Rich" in the Forbes list (and remember, one of my jobs BF: Apparently what happened was that, in 1812, the was to identify billionaires and count their money) was because American Republic decided not to renew Rothschild's banking it's put in as a "charitable foundation", and in fact they have licence and the American people took control of their own hundreds of them [foundations]: Rockefeller, Carnegie, money. That's why Rothschild invaded the United States, and Brookings—a whole alphabet soup of them. that was the real reason for the war of 1812. For the next But each generation of the Rockefeller family and the other century, the Rothschilds plotted and schemed to get back control families, the Morgans, who are the Bush people...you can see of the US money supply and therefore the American people... that they inherit the power. They still control that money. And John Rockefeller I was into oil, and he would buy the they have a system so that each generation has one person in refineries. He would come up to a guy at an oil refinery and charge. So it's like a kind of hidden aristocracy. Instead of offer him cash and a low price. If the man refused to sell, he'd inheriting land, they inherit assets and everybody who works cause problems with the workers or maybe sabotage, whatever within those assets is like a peasant working on the lord's estate. necessary. And the Rothschilds took note of this Rockefeller So, if you work for Standard Oil, you're a Rockefeller serf in a guy and they decided they'd help him. They would allow him to way, because they have the ultimate control. transport his oil at much cheaper rates than all his competitors. KC: Okay. That's the Rockefeller side So he got the oil monopoly. of things. Are you also able to trace it from In 1913, finally, the Rockefellers, the the Rothschilds, the European side? Harrimans, the Warburgs, this group of BF: Yeah. Now, the Rothschild thing families, were able to take over the Federal goes back 300 years, basically. I think this Reserve Board, supposedly on behalf of the is well-known stuff... However, I think the "And the Rothschilds. But I do believe that Rothschilds had very deep religious y Rockefeller staged a sort of coup d'état. He convictions and were at heart fairly decent [the Rothschild said: "Hey, I control the American army people. Although they apparently financed and engineered the US Revolution in and I control the American economy, and so I'll cooperate with you, but I'm in charge predecessors] came 1776—with East India Company money— up witha system: here." And he took over the United States. they also financed and engineered the Meiji So I think you [the USA] became a reforms. These are good things, in many you have to control Rockefeller fief, not a Rothschild one. They ways. Canada has always been Rothschild their food supply; meet and they cooperate. ; territory, and Canada is a very nice country, h t t | KC: Right. So, to this day, you feel that you know? you ave to contro there's cooperation? BF: I think there is some cooperation. I think there is also conflict. If you look at the pattern of European versus American voting in the UN, you can see the difference between the two sides. KC: Right. So where does Japan fall in this group? BF: Okay. Now, in Japan what happened wa: fter Admiral Perry came, Lord Rothschild sent a fleet and they attacked the Satsuma and Choshu clans in the south. They had the Kinmu Emperor murdered and they installed a 16-year-old boy by the So I don't think they're on the same level. Their system was, basically, ancient Babylonian royalties. This is where it gets really weird and esoteric, but it goes back 5,771 years. The Rothschilds used to say they were descendants of Nimrod, who conquered the peoples of Babylonia— a herding people, a pastoral people. They [the Rothschild predecessors] conquered the peoples of Babylonia, or present-day Iraq. They said: "Well, isn't there some way we can herd people the way you herd sheep?" And they came up with a system: you their information supply; and you have to have means of violence to discipline them..." have to control their food supply; you have to control their name of Toranosuke Omura as the Meiji Emperor. They information supply; and you have to have means of violence to financed the modernisation of Japan. So they set up the royal discipline them... family, the emperor, in power and they helped him modernise KC: But, this is the Illuminati you're talking about, right? Japan. They fought the Russians. I think the Japanese were very BF: Well, I mean, you can call it Illuminati or you can call it grateful. In 1903, after the victory, the Japanese emperors were the King's Court. I started looking up how the ancient Sumerian made par with British royalty. Every emperor goes to Oxford to society was managed, and you find that it's really quite similar to study. the modern United States. In Japan, they used to call the Finance But I think that after World War II, the Japanese started to get Ministry the "Big Warehouse" Ministry... And remember, if you disillusioned because they were not treated as equals. They were control the food supply then you can hire warriors and not given what they felt a fair deal. They felt there was racism. intellectuals and control society—control their thinking, control In the 1930s, the Japanese made a break for independence. their food, and control them through violence if necessary. And They wanted to set up the [Greater East] Asia Co-Prosperity that's how it works even now. That's why it's so important to Sphere. They wanted to modernise all the "yellow" countries so understand that finance is control over your food supply... that they could stop colonisation by the whites. So the reason the BR: Control over your energy supply as well. Japanese were able to take over most of China and were only BF: Energy supply, yes. But I mean, at the end of the day it's stopped by US invasion was because a lot of the Chinese actually "And they [the Rothschild predecessors] came up with a system: you have to control their food supply; you have to control their information supply; and you have to have means 16 = NEXUS JUNE — JULY 2008 of violence to discipline them..." www. nexusmagazine.com