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approached the aircraft and appeared to be observing the Navy report required from each crew member and from those who plane. It was at an altitude of about 19,000 to 20,000 feet and at were passengers returning home. first the object was mistaken for being a gathering of many ships Senator Goldwater then said, "What was the scientist's elow the plane due to its size, when initially and earlier viewed response, Mac? I am very interested to know. I may contact far below the aircraft by the navigator and commander of the Hynek and try to investigate if he was the scientist involved." plane." I replied, "Good idea, sir. Now, to continue. The unidentified I said, "Senator Goldwater, I cannot recall the names of the scientist asked the Navy commander if he had any photographs flight crew." of the huge UFO. The commander said, 'Yes, but they have all He said, "Just continue with the incident, Mac. It's very been confiscated and classified.' The scientist met with the interesting and I was not aware it had happened." commander and unlocked a briefcase and withdrew several Icontinued. "They all witnessed it and described it as having a photos of strange objects (UFOs). He asked the commander if arge, illuminated, outer ring. Since it and what some said may any were similar. While reviewing the photos, the commander ave been other craft below were possibly seen. As the large stopped and said, 'This is the exact saucer-shaped object my crew object approached the plane at about 1,000 yards, those aboard and I saw.’ He then said, 'If you and the government have photos were mystified and frightened. The crew later said it was a huge, such as these, there are people within the Federal Government saucer-shaped, metallic machine." who know.’ The scientist said he was sorry, Goldwater asked, "Mac, did they show but he could not disclose anything. He photographs of it in the ONI film?" closed his briefcase and left the room. I told him, "I was not aware that a film Senator, the facts concerning UFOs and if was exposed during the actual incident, so, they are from an alien star race are known in no, I did not see any depiction of the UFO. DC!" If any UFO film was taken at all, it was " . Senator Goldwater then said, "Mac, I am apparently under Top Secret classification As the large object absolutely going to look into this when I comments made by te ew in the fm were | @PPFOached the plane | ‘t's Wstigonononn’ that they all considered the huge object was at about 1 ,000 yards, From Roswell to the Moon ‘intelligently controlled’. They also said that those aboard were I then asked the Senator if he would no living creature, etc., was seen. They wes answer a few questions I had for him. He added that the craft's speed from when it mystified and agreed. climbed from near sea level to their H aircraft altitude was estimated to be frightened. The crew about 1,400 to 2,000+ knots in a brief later said it was a time-lapse of seven to eight seconds." huge saucer-shaped 3 3 metallic machine." T asked him, "Are you aware of any facts that are unknown to the public regarding the alleged Roswell crash in 1947?" He said, "Mac, I have investigated that incident through every possible agency that may have had some responsibility: the FBI—Hoover, who shut me off quickly—the NRO, DIA, NSA, etc., and have gained nothing other than hell from the Pentagon. You may know more about it than I. I'm as curious about those facts as you. The Navy plane.’ Sir, they verified that the reaction I had from General LeMay and gigantic craft was on their radar!" the on-site Roswell facts known by He replied, "Mac, I was not aware of that case! I will try to General ‘Butch’ Blanchard, etc., have told me one thing: that it The Senator said, "That's astounding, Mac! What else was said?" Icontinued. "The Navy aircraft commander radioed ahead to the Gander Air Force Base control tower and asked if their radar was identifying any other object near his R7V-2. The tower control officer said, "Yes, a larger object and in close proximity of the pursue it when I return to Washington." did happen and it is a major secret regarding UFOs and aliens of I replied, "Contact Don Keyhoe or Richard Hall, his deputy." our time. Perhaps of all times." I continued with the sighting. "The US Navy flight I looked at my watch and the NASA countdown clock a short commander was asked by the USAF interrogator at Gander distance from where we were, and saw that the countdown was during their individual and group debriefing if they saw any progressing without any launch holds. Excitement was rising indication of life. His reply was, 'No, but it was intelligently with the VIP crowd. My break had run out. controlled, and my crew and [ are all witnesses to that fact!’ That Senator Goldwater and I both shook hands and I thanked him object was not remotely controlled; something inside of it was in for his openness with me. As I walked away, I glanced back at control! The interrogator would not discuss what the Gander him and realised I would probably not talk again with this great radar had recorded and refused to allow the Navy to review it. man in our nation's history. To me, Senator Barry Goldwater The Navy commander asked the Air Force officer, 'What's the was a national treasure and great American patriot. USAF up to now? You people say UFOs do not exist. What the I returned to the LCC. At 9.32 am, the huge Saturn V rocket hell did we see if they don't exist?’ The USAF officer said, carrying Apollo 1] lifted off and rumbled into space to realise an "Sorry, we cannot answer any of your questions'!" historic milestone. Mankind landed on and returned from the I told the Senator that I suspected it was Dr J. Alan Hynek who Moon—and will continue to explore the vast universe should our became involved about four or so days later, after the US Navy human existence continue. aircraft arrived at Patuxent, Maryland, when the crew was once 7 A : . . . . Continued on page 79 again placed under an intense ONI interrogation with a detailed "As the large object approached the plane at about 1,000 yards, those aboard were mystified and frightened. The crew _ later said it was a huge, saucer-shaped, metallic machine." 56 = NEXUS JUNE — JULY 2006 Continued on page 79 www.nexusmagazine.com