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Vaccine Dangers and Vested Interests Co ued from page 14 version of the disease is in the vaccine to In the US, there are groups of mothers hesin with. Or two. he doesn't get that dis- who are. testifvino ahont autism and child- version of the disease is in the vaccine to begin with. Or two, he doesn't get that dis- ease, but at some later time, maybe right away, maybe not, he develops another con- dition which is caused by the vaccine. That condition could be autism—what's called autism—or it could be some other disease like meningitis. He could become mentally disabled. Q: Is there any way to compare the rela- tive frequency of these different outcomes? A: No. Because the follow-up is poor. We can only guess. If you ask, out of a population of a hundred thousand children who get a measles vaccine, how many get the measles and how many develop other problems from the vaccine, there is no reli- able answer. That is what I'm saying. Vaccines are superstitions. And with superstitions, you don't get facts you can use. You only get stories, most of which are designed to enforce the superstition. But, from many vaccine campaigns we can piece together a narrative that does reveal some very disturbing things. People have been harmed. The harm is real, and it can be deep and it can mean death. The harm is not limited to a few cases as we have been led to believe. In the US, there are groups of mothers who are testifying about autism and child- hood vaccines. They are coming forward and standing up at meetings. They are essentially trying to fill in the gap that has been created by the researchers and doctors who turn their backs on the whole thing. Q: Let me ask you this. If you took a child in, say, Boston and you raised that child with good nutritious food and he exercised every day and he was loved by his parents and he didn't get the measles vaccine, what would be his health status compared with the average child in Boston who eats poorly and watches five hours of TV a day and gets the measles vaccine? A: Of course there are many factors involved, but I would bet on the better health status for the first child. If he gets measles, if he gets it when he is nine, the chances are it will be much lighter than the measles the second child might get. I would bet on the first child every time. Q: How long did you work with vaccines? A: A long time. Longer than ten years. Q: Looking back now, can you recall any good reason to say that vaccines are successful? Burden of proof and the need for studies on vaccine safety Q: What is one thing you want the pub- lic to understand? A: That the burden of proof in establish- ing the safety and efficacy of vaccines is on the people who manufacture and license them for public use. Just that. The burden of proof is not on you or me. And for proof you need well-designed, long-term studies. You need extensive follow-up. You need to interview mothers and pay attention to what mothers say about their babies and what happens to them after vac- cination. You need all these things—the things that are not there. Q: The things that are not there. A: Yes. Q: To avoid any confusion, I'd like you to review, once more, the disease problems that vaccines can cause—which diseases, how that happens... A: Weare basically talking about two potential, harmful outcomes. One, the per- son gets the disease from the vaccine. He gets the disease which the vaccine is sup- posed to protect him from, because some 76 = NEXUS www.nexusmagazine.com FEBRUARY — MARCH 2006