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Part B to that was that the way to achieve peace on this planet is in space. There might be a reason to protect our assets in space. to preserve the peace that there must be in space in order for there But the real one that he was always holding off on and would say to be peace on Earth. repeatedly, again with tears filling his eyes every time he said this Linda Moulton Howe (LMH): You said "universes", plural? to me, is that the last card they are holding is the "alien" card, the CR: "Universes" is the way he put it to me. I had never heard extraterrestrial card, and none of them are [sic] hostile. In any that term before. I thought we lived in [the only] galaxy/solar way he could say those words, the intonation was always on system/universe. But he always used the word "universes". "None of them are [sic] hostile; it's all a lie". So, in other words, LMH: As if he had knowledge of other universes? all the enemies that have been presented to us along the way—it's CR: Exactly. a lie, with always the intention of seizing the high ground to keep LMH: Did he talk with you specifically about knowledge of extraterrestrial biological entities? CR: Dr von Braun would have tears in his eyes every time, and he repeated this continuously to me when he talked about us in the galaxy. He would say, "With a hundred billion stars in our galaxy alone, what would make us think that we are the only life-form?" That was a very typical, repeated quote. The other one that he would say is that he knew we must have peace in space in order to bring the truth in. The only time he used the words "extraterrestrial" and "alien"—and he did this repeatedly as well—was when he spoke to me about the formula for war. That included the fact that when I entered the industry, we were in a supposed Cold War with Russia. He would say, "Let's start here where you are". There are continuous wars and enemies identified in order to perpetu- horrible people—and that was all lies. ate these wars, always with the ulti- LMH: That was Germany and mate goal of seizing the high ground of | Dr Wernher von Braun, German rocket scientist Project Paperclip. outer space to dominate and control brought to the United States after World War II to CR: Yes, of course. I notice that the minds of people on Earth so they head Project Paperclip at White Sands Missile even some people in the peace would not be given the truth—truthful Range. Project Paperclip was the US government's tnovement refer to von Braun and the : so ‘ assembly of dozens of German physicists to create 27 ee . information about who we really are in an American space rocket program, as the German senusts as people who started the MH: Wh as his definition of Scientists had been producing in Peenemiinde, That's ars” program um ni eagan]. : at was his definition o: Germany, during the reign of Adolf Hitler. at's just not true. It's a lie. ey the truth from us. LMH: Meaning the implication is that the United States government, perhaps even in cooperation with authorities in Russia, has played a game of perpetuating enemies in order to keep the money flowing into the war machines... CR: Actually, he [von Braun] never implied that the Russians were part of this. He implied to me that the kernel of it was in the United States and that this had to be stopped—and he thought that I, as a woman with curly hair and short skirts in those days, could get into any meeting where a man could probably never say the things that I could. At that time, he gave me the assignment of prevent- ing the weaponisation of space. He also mentioned that when he and the other scientists came here, so many rumours were spread about them—that they were Nazis and were what we really are in the universes? (Photograph date and source unknown.) were purely scientists who came here CR: Well, this is what he did not to be space and rocket scientists, but describe. I believe what was happening is that he was under they were always sucked up into this system that has been threat. existing in the old, obsolete, earthbound paradigm. At least that's LMH: That is why he gave you an "Enemies List"* that would —_as much intelligence as the population is given to keep us in the be perpetuated? earthbound paradigm. But these men were far ahead. These were space-age people. * America's "Enemies List" to Sustain War Mode LMH: Did he give you any specifics about who in the United and Pentagon Budgets: States would stand to gain the most from perpetuating a game of 1 - Soviet Union war for money and power? 2 - Terrorists CR: Yes; he described it not as a blame on just a certain group. 3 - Asteroids He described it as the inexorably linked military-industrial-lab- 4 - Extraterrestrials university-NASA and other space agencies-intelligence community-government complex, that it was intertwined, but CR: That's right. He repeated this continuously. He would there was a group that knew all of it. He did not act as if he knew say that, starting where I entered the industry with the supposed who it was. Dr Wernher von Braun, German rocket scientist brought to the United States after World War II to head Project Paperclip at White Sands Missile Range. Project Paperclip was the US government's assembly of dozens of German physicists to create an American space rocket program, as the German scientists had been producing in Peeneminde, Germany, during the reign of Adolf Hitler. (Photograph date and source unknown.) * America's "Enemies List" to Sustain War Mode and Pentagon Budgets: 1 - Soviet Union 2 - Terrorists 3 - Asteroids 4 - Extraterrestrials CR: That's right. He repeated this continuously. He would say that, starting where I entered the industry with the supposed Russian threat (but [that] never actually existed), the Russians were made to be the enemy. Then there would be terrorists, Third World country threats. There would be an asteroid threat. They might even say to us, to try to influence the public into believing [it], that there are many reasons for why we should put weapons ET Threat to Perpetuate Military-Industrial-Corporate- Academic Complex LMH: From your perspective, the greatest secret that Wernher von Braun would have been hiding would be the fact that the 20 = NEXUS www.nexusmagazine.com OCTOBER — NOVEMBER 2004