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me was "Special Assistant” and no one ever asked what that really meant, which was fine. But they obviously made their own assump- tions as to what the Special Assistant to the Chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee was. the strategy, the corporate strategy—and it's _ the funding for that came from the Ministry So, perhaps they were overgenerous in alleged that it wasn't just his corporation, of Defence and their intelligence communi- sharing things, but I certainly appreciated which was Fairchild, but a conglomerate— ty, the KGB and the GRU. And they iden- whatever their expectations were. was this. It is essential to keep the income tified their sources of funding to me I was frequently used as a messenger boy pump for the military—industrial complex because they were interested—I think for in every country that I went to, because primed and going to make sure that we have _ the obvious reason—first of all to ascertain they knew of my relationship with Senator adequate enemies. He ticked off to Carol _ if this [UFOs] was something coming from Pell—the Russians less than the Chinese. that essentially here is the list. Watch for NATO, from the United States. Were these The Chinese did it repeatedly. oa : ae i a a OB The original Project Paperclip team photographed at Fort Bliss in White Sands, New Mexico, in the 1940s. Dr Werner von Braun is sixth from the right in the front row. (Photo is courtesy of the Smithsonian Museum.) this: things that were penetrating their airspace If they had a heartburn that they wanted * first the Soviet Union, but that will _ still another threat to their national security eased, they would say, "Look, when you collapse; and a provocation? get back to Washington, we want you to ¢ then terrorism and crazies in other I think they very quickly countries; realised that they could deter- ¢ then asteroids; mine the difference between a « then extraterrestrials. U2 and naval aircraft pene- That's an extraordinary list, and I must _ trating their borders and then say on reflection that everything has been _ later on other satellite and air- mentioned as a potential enemy or threat by craft when they came online, the United States, except extraterrestrials to versus the ETs and the UFOs this point. that came over. I asked them, "What do you think is the Foreign Assignments motivation? What is the LMH: In the work that you did with intent of these intrusions, not Senator Claiborne Pell, where you were only in your country but assigned to explore the world to find out around the world?" They what was going on with research in other confessed they had no idea governments’ efforts to understand what the intention was. whatever this phenomenon is, did you find LMH: But it underscores there were other countries—maybe China, _ that this is a global phenome- Russia, France—who were ready to non, that it is being seen by disclose what they knew and the United thousands of people around States was the only obstacle between their _ the planet on an ongoing basis saying to the world public, "We know we in every country. Can you are not alone"? describe what you learned CBSJ: That intrigued me, whatI ran from what you called "the into. First of all, when I first went into the _ bear of a scientist" in Russia? Soviet Union—this was before their blood- CBSJ: That was interest- less revolution—the scientists I dealt with ing. Since I was working for and the research directors knew they were Senator [Claiborne] Pell, who Paperclip at White Sands Missile Range. Project Paperclip going to have a revolution. __ was then Chairman of the was the US government's assembly of dozens of German And they literally offered me stacks of Senate Foreign Relations physicists to create an American space rocket program as their classified reports. We would have Committee, that gave me the German scientists had been producing in Peenemiinde, huge stacks of their reports over years of _ entrée to places around the Germany, during the reign of Adolf Hitler. (Photograph their official government involvement, and world. The title he had given date and source are unknown.) Dr Werner von Braun, the German rocket scientist brought to the United States after World War II to head Project The original Project Paperclip team photographed at Fort Bliss in White Sands, New Mexico, in the 1940s. Dr Werner von Braun is sixth from the right in the front row. (Photo is courtesy of the Smithsonian Museum.) the strategy, the corporate strategy—and it's alleged that it wasn't just his corporation, which was Fairchild, but a conglomerate— was this. It is essential to keep the income pump for the military—industrial complex primed and going to make sure that we have adequate enemies. He ticked off to Carol that essentially here is the list. Watch for thi ¢ first the Soviet Union, but that will collapse; ¢ then terrorism and crazies in other countries; ¢ then asteroids; * then extraterrestrials. That's an extraordinary list, and I must say on reflection that everything has been mentioned as a potential enemy or threat by the United States, except extraterrestrials to this point. Foreign Assignments LMH: In the work that you did with Senator Claiborne Pell, where you were assigned to explore the world to find out what was going on with research in other governments' efforts to understand whatever this phenomenon is, did you find there were other countries—maybe China, Russia, France—who were ready to disclose what they knew and the United States was the only obstacle between their saying to the world public, "We know we are not alone"? CBSJ: That intrigued me, what I ran into. First of all, when I first went into the Soviet Union—this was before their blood- less revolution—the scientists I dealt with and the research directors knew they were going to have a revolution. And they literally offered me stacks of their classified reports. 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