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or strontium-90 and you would never know it—unless you had an Something else: we have laser weapons now that make nuclear instrument that detected it or if there were enough of it to where weapons look pretty weak. We tested a lot of laser weaponry out you became sick and got radiation sickness and subsequently there when I was there in the '70s—all kinds of laser weapons. died...a lot of what we call "reality"—what we see, we hear, we Laser weapons are far more selective. smell, we taste, we feel—isn't quite the way we think it is. A nuclear weapon is just a great big bomb that blows up and From a physics point of view, there is no such thing as colour. you have the radiation and the heat and the wind and all that. We're all sitting around here seeing colours that don't exist. Light They're not as all-destructive as people think they are. The new is electromagnetic radiation and it's colourless. Our brains inter- ones aren't as dirty as people think they are. pret different wavelengths of colour through our optic nerve. What our minds call "colour", green jacket, brown pants—there is | EXPONENTIAL ADVANCES no colour there. Your brain is interpreting colour, different wave- Question: [Unintelligible] lengths, and I call it "green" and I call it "brown". We mostly all Answer: What I know about antigravity devices I'm not at lib- agree on these things, generally speaking, but we all see different erty to talk about. Area 51 does not deal with nuclear weaponry. things. There is no colour. Physics, folks, is advancing in leaps and bounds; all technology is So you have to stop and think about crazy things you see inthe —_ advancing in leaps and bounds. sky at night that may or not be unexplainable. To someone else One of the most dangerous things that's happening to the human these may be very common, very explainable and very ordinary. race right now is we're being left behind. I can't even run my I'm just about to walk over the edge here...they may not be...if son's computer as well as he can, and technology is going faster you were to see a person, you may not recognise that person as than our ability to keep up with it. And when I say our ability, I'm someone you thought might live on the face of this planet. And not talking about just us; I'm talking about the people that build it. that's all I'll say about that; I swore to God I wasn't going to say We're a couple of years away from artificial intelligence, com- that! puterised artificial intelligence, that has the ability to reason, to Question: [Unintelligible] think, to comprehend existence. If Answer: If a race of beings had the you stop and think about that, that's ability to travel from Alpha Centauri to pretty scary. It gets to the point where here, they would certainly have the U maybe we become liabilities. ability to camouflage themselves, either We rea couple of years away When I was a youngster, Buck to where we couldn't detect them or to from artificial intelligence, Rogers and all that stuff was science look like us. We re a diverse-looking computerised artificial fiction. And it's advancing exponen- race of beings; they could look almost . tially. My mother, who passed away ike anything. There are creatures on a few years ago, rode on a stagecoac! like anything. Th intelligence, that has the few years ago, rod gecoach this planet that look pretty strange. ili i here in the Black Hills. She also saw Ihave a healthy respect for and a fear ability to reason, to think, men walk on the Moon. of my federal government—because to comprehend existence. I've seen my federal government do some really bad things to people. There were people out at the test site that were the subjects of radiation experi- ments. I've seen them tie animals down in areas that were going _ practically. Now, you take another 20 years from now...and when I say it's increasing exponentially, the graph of scientific knowledge isn't going up like this—it's going straight up, to be tested. We're talking about now, this Area 51 thing...the government We had a tower out there; it was called Bren Tower. It was will hang on until the last dog dies before they'll tell you what's 1,300 feet tall, and at the top of that tower there was a reactor, going on out there—even after it becomes irrelevant anymore, unshielded, a small reactor; and around the base of that tower for even after it becomes where it's no secret. The government still a half a mile or so we would put experiments out, live experi- won't talk about the things that happened in World War II. I'm ments, and see how much radiation they could take—how much not talking about nuclear things, I'm talking about the gamma radiation, how much beta, how many neutrons they could "Philadelphia Experiment", and I shouldn't have even mentioned absorb. These were animals. that. The government will not talk about all kinds of things that Question: When we dropped the bomb in Japan in 1945, we _ they already know about. didn't know what the after-effects were going to be. Question: [Something about all the TV programs about UFOs Answer: When we tested the first device in July of 1945—the and whether the government is ready to tell.] Trinity device—in Alamogordo, New Mexico, the scientists didn't Answer: It isn't the government loosening up, no. I have know for sure if that wouldn't cause a never-ending chain of reac- friends that work in government security. And they absolutely tions and it would absolutely destroy the world. They knew they gnash their teeth at the fact that all these things leak out constantly had "x" pounds of fissionable material in that Trinity device, but and they lie awake at night trying to figure out ways to plug leaks. they didn't know if that would trigger more reactions or not. They I think I told you all what I could, without lying awake tonight didn't know what was going to happen. wondering if I told you too much. I hope it was helpful. The best When they dropped the Fat Boy and Little Man on those two thing you can do to keep the society as free and open as possible Japanese cities, they had all this experience of one device. And __ is to make sure the politicians we elect to office don't allow them- they dropped those very dirty devices and the war ended. selves to be sucked into the vortex of secrecy that the government Personally, I happen to believe that was the thing to do, because I —_ always wants to have. think a million or more Americans, soldiers, would have died and And if you see anything flying around, believe your eyes and a lot of Japanese people would have died if we had invaded the believe it isn't a weather balloon. If the government says it's homeland. something, it's pretty safe to disbelieve them. oo Something else: we have laser weapons now that make nuclear weapons look pretty weak. We tested a lot of laser weaponry out there when I was there in the '70s—all kinds of laser weapons. Laser weapons are far more selective. A nuclear weapon is just a great big bomb that blows up and you have the radiation and the heat and the wind and all that. They're not as all-destructive as people think they are. The new ones aren't as dirty as people think they are. We're a couple of years away from artificial intelligence, computerised artificial intelligence, that has the ability to reason, to think, to comprehend existence. practically. We're talking about now, this Area 51 thing...the government will hang on until the last dog dies before they'll tell you what's going on out there—even after it becomes irrelevant anymore, even after it becomes where it's no secret. The government still won't talk about the things that happened in World War II. I'm not talking about nuclear things, I'm talking about the "Philadelphia Experiment", and I shouldn't have even mentioned that. The government will not talk about all kinds of things that they already know about. Question: [Something about all the TV programs about UFOs and whether the government is ready to tell.] Answer: It isn't the government loosening up, no. I have friends that work in government security. And they absolutely gnash their teeth at the fact that all these things leak out constantly and they lie awake at night trying to figure out ways to plug leaks. I think I told you all what I could, without lying awake tonight wondering if I told you too much. I hope it was helpful. The best thing you can do to keep the society as free and open as possible is to make sure the politicians we elect to office don't allow them- selves to be sucked into the vortex of secrecy that the government always wants to have. And if you see anything flying around, believe your eyes and believe it isn't a weather balloon. If the government says it's something, it's pretty safe to disbelieve them. oo 60 = NEXUS APRIL — MAY 2003 www.nexusmagazine.com