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January 27th or whenever it was, January 20th, when the inauguration took place. There've been some pretty scary things happen. The only reason I knew about it is I worked out there. There would be times when we'd be put on alert, security alert, for reasons that were beyond me. There were times when things went the other Question: What are your personal views about the future? Answer: President Eisenhower warned us about the military- industrial complex before he left office in 1960. I personally believe that there's a reason we moved to the Black Hills of South Dakota. Partially because we're at the top of the food chain here, and the water chain. I like to live in a place where the water isn't going to be contaminated. I personally feel that there's a good chance, an excellent chance, that there's going to be limited nuclear war in the next five to six years. And whether that escalates into a global confrontation, who knows. But it's going to happen just as sure as I'm standing here. The temptation to use nuclear weapons is getting more and more—tactical, not strategic nuclear weapons, the tactical nuclear way. and the water chain. I like to live in a place where the water isn't Before we set Box Car off, I called home that morning and told going to be contaminated. my wife to put a bowl of water on the kitchen table. Now this I personally feel that there's a good chance, an excellent chance, was 160 miles away; I lived in Las Vegas. I said, "Watch it; zero _ that there's going to be limited nuclear war in the next five to six time is at five o'clock". I called from the test site. Everyone in years. And whether that escalates into a global confrontation, Vegas knew; they stopped gambling during that time because of | who knows. But it's going to happen just as sure as I'm standing the roll of the dice! Vegas shut the casinos down for a few min- here. The temptation to use nuclear weapons is getting more and utes, just the big ones. Box Car was so big, they had to say some- more—tactical, not strategic nuclear weapons, the tactical nuclear thing about it, so at zero time, after the detonation, about a minute weapons. to two minutes later, my wife said that bowl of water sitting on We spent a lot of time out there testing tactical nuclear the table splashed over and it actually did fall off the table! And weapons, 150 kilotons, 150,000 tons of TNT and less. Small that was 160 miles away as a crow flies. devices, devices so that paratroopers can Question: [Unintelligible] jump out of planes with them on their back. I Answer: Everything that goes on at the can carry one around in a suitcase and the Nevada Test Site is on a "need to know" problem with that is, nuclear devices have basis. There are three words that you will become so small, so compact, so efficient, hear over and over, every single working day that if terrorists ever get their hands on one— you're out there: everything is on a "need to and it's amazing that they haven't, absolutely know". amazing—it's going to make this thing in I was going to bring my security badge l can say this: Oklahoma City look like a walk in the park. with me and I forgot it; I still have it. I had a antigravity Because the first terrorist group that gets their Top Secret clearance with sigmas on it. . © hands on a nuclear device... These sigmas denoted what informational devices exist; You know, we all used to say, "Well, China areas I was privy to, and one of those areas can't do it because they can't deliver the was Area 51. I got it as a souvenir when I where they came weapons"—that was a bunch of hogwash. left; I talked the securit le into let- ' You don't need rockets to deli cle le alked the security people into let from, that S ou don't need rockets to deliver nuclear ting me have it. weapons; all you need is a suitcase. It's There are all kinds of people in gov- another matter that simple. I can give you the address of speculation. ernment that do not have the "need to of a company in San Francisco that know" what's going on out there, or at would be more than happy to send you least parts of what's going on out there. the blueprints for a nuclear weapon for And they're not told. And that includes $19.95. the President. The problem right now in this country is that we don't have an enemy any more. I only say that half facetiously. We'll create one, one of these days. CROP CIRCLES Question: [About crop circles] Answer: You know, those crop cir- cles are amazing. I don't know where Question: I was wondering about they're coming from. We had places out your remarks about Clinton. The in Nevada—there were no crops; it was National Security Council intelligence arm must be pretty poor if sand and low bushes—with crop circles identical to those at the they were concerned about the transfer of power to a man like test site. Clinton who has become such a puppet. It just doesn't add up Question: Were we responsible? somehow. Answer: I can tell you one thing: at the test site, it wasn't Answer: I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but the term "military some prank. In England, some say it was some pranksters, but at intelligence" is an oxymoron. the Nevada test site it wasn't a prank. There are no pranks out Question: [Something about propulsion systems; mostly unin- there. telligible] Question: No sense of humour? Answer: I can say this: antigravity devices exist; where they Answer: You know what, actually there's a lot of people that came from, that's another matter of speculation. Their unwilling- work out there that do have a sense of humour! I have friend who ness to talk about things like that within the government stems has a picture of himself sitting on a nuclear weapon smoking a partly from human nature. If you're privy to some information joint. Now if that were found out, he'd be in really big doggie that you hold dear, regardless of what it is, we're reluctant to share doo-doo. But he's a guy that works for Los Alamos Scientific it with other people. That's part of the problem. Laboratory in New Mexico. The other part of the problem is holding on to the information Question: [Unintelligible] so it can be used militarily. We have become so used to having Answer: You see, the insidious part about what we call an enemy in this country and the need to have an enemy, another "reality"...like radiation...we could be sitting here and right there nation state, that's it's gotten pretty bad. in that cooler could be a lethal radio-isotope of, say, caesium-137 I can say this: antigravity devices exist; where they came from, that's another matter APRIL — MAY 2003 NEXUS +59 NUCLEAR TERROR of speculation. www.nexusmagazi ne.com