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a picture I know was never released to the public, showing a _ tempic field is greater in here than out here. If you have a very large nuclear explosion at Bikini. This picture showed a __ beam of light passing through this region, since there is more large fireball which I think must have been well over 100 time in here and less time in this part, this light doesn't have to miles in diameter and projecting out from it were what looked go as far in a given interval as this beam of light does. So this like solar prominences, great tongues of activity. Now these light beam bends so that the direction is this direction here, but tongues looked to me from the scale of the picture to be about _ over here it's in this direction. So what apparently happens is 25 to 50 miles [in size]. They were quite comparable in size to that the light is bent around this particular point. the big fireball. Now, my guess is that these tongues were in When you look at a saucer which has increased the tempic fact chain reactions taking place in the Earth's atmosphere. field in the vicinity of the saucer, you find that the light tends What mechanism was involved, I can only guess. I'm not a to approach the saucer in this fashion, go around it and out the nuclear physicist. I only know that this picture was considered _ other side. So that what little light comes directly from the by those knowledgeable to be very significant and very worri- saucer occupies such a very, very small portion of your field of some. I think another reason, possibly, for the curtailment of vision that you think the saucer, if you see it at all, is tiny— the tests has been rising public opinion. It would be highly about the size maybe of a dime—when in reality it may be 150 undesirable to go any further into the business of nuclear feet in diameter. You are literally looking past the saucer. weapons than we have gone; possibly we have gone too far Now, we saw one of the little monitors do exactly that trick. already. We had very good reason to believe that a certain conversa- Q: [Question was barely audible and referred to the measur- tion we were having with a friend of mine was being moni- ing instruments. ] tored by one of these fellows, so when we came out of the A: We believe that as long as the elastic limit of the materi- | house we made a definite effort to locate it. We did. It was al is not overstretched, the effect is temporary; but if it is over- down in the ditch near the front of the house. As soon as we stressed, the effect is permanent. We found a very peculiar spotted it, apparently the people controlling it became aware of thing. Things in the northern latitudes generally appear to be the fact. somewhat stronger than in the We saw what appeared to be just southern latitudes. We have one like a heat wave, something like a instrument which we took from foot in diameter. Popped out of the Toopah(?), Manitoba, through . . centre of this appeared to be a little Ottawa, Washington, DC, and out We literally punch a hole in disc about so big, and it just took off through Oklahoma City. And while the field structure of the Earth: like that into the blue yonder. I none of our instruments is calibrat- think the whole operation occurred ed in any kind of an absolute unit— a little round cylindrical hole on in maybe less than two seconds. simply because we don't know how this side and big conical shaped But we were looking right at it, and to calibrate them in absolute 4 there were three of us, and we all units—they are merely scale indica- hole on the other side. They stay saw the same thing. And knowing tions. The scale goes around to 10. there for a long time. the trick about the field, we figured And we set them ordinarily around that that was how it was done. mid-scale, five or six. At Toopah it Now, there is one way that you went up to about seven; when it got can tell that a saucer is parked in a down to Oklahoma City it was meadow, for example. If there is a down to two. And when we took it back to Ottawa it came background of trees, as you would walk along or drive along back to the five. We had set it at five in Ottawa. Now, that in a car looking out across the field, as you pass the vicinity of meant that there was not a permanent stretch in the nylon fibre, the saucer, since the light has a little bit farther to travel during which was the weaker of the two opposing pulls. However, this, it would appear as though momentarily the background every time we take one of these instruments into Toronto, we moved backwards. I have driven miles and miles past mead- find that it promptly goes from five down to two; we have ows looking for this very thing. I think I know what it ought actually had several of the nylon fibres break when we take the to look like, but I haven't seen it yet. Maybe since I'm onto instruments to Toronto. We came to the conclusion that this trick, they'll do something else [laughter]. Toronto was maybe good all right, but it wasn't very strong laughter]. About the Speaker: ; : ; Incidentally, they have had an abnormal number of structur- Wilbert B. Smith (1910-1962) held a Master's degree in electri- al steel failures when buildings have been undergoing con- eal engineering and was the head of Project Magner, the ee ° oo ‘ : anadian government's unofficial investigation into UFOs that struction. ‘The steel has given way, bolts have given way. We fasted from 1950 to 1954. In 1950 he was the senior radio elieve that this is maybe a semi-permanent condition for engineer in Canada's Department of Transport (later renamed Toronto because we found that just as we hit the outskirts of the Department of Communications), responsible for allocating the city and as we proceeded through the city and towards AM/FM radio frequencies even to the intelligence agencies, Hamilton...[static]...it seems to be permanent. It's been there and was promoted to Superintendent of Radio Regulations for four or five years now. Engineering in 1956. From the late 1940s, Smith had had a Q: [Barely audible but had to do with the ability of UFOs to _keen interest in ufology, and he even wrote two science fiction materialise and seemingly dematerialise.] novels. His seminal work, The New Science, was published in A: That is a question I find very intriguing. Consider a 1964 (see http://www.rexresearch.com). an point here [indicates on board], about which time is not uni- | For extensive background Oro tenn smn ane his nigh: formly distributed. In other words, as you come out from here, eve Involvement In the issue, vIsl e website . . . http://www. presidentialufo.com/smith.htm. you have less and less time; or, looking at it the other way, the tempic field is greater in here than out here. If you have a beam of light passing through this region, since there is more time in here and less time in this part, this light doesn't have to go as far in a given interval as this beam of light does. So this light beam bends so that the direction is this direction here, but over here it's in this direction. So what apparently happens is that the light is bent around this particular point. When you look at a saucer which has increased the tempic field in the vicinity of the saucer, you find that the light tends to approach the saucer in this fashion, go around it and out the other side. So that what little light comes directly from the saucer occupies such a very, very small portion of your field of vision that you think the saucer, if you see it at all, is tiny— about the size maybe of a dime—when in reality it may be 150 feet in diameter. You are literally looking past the saucer. Now, we saw one of the little monitors do exactly that trick. We had very good reason to believe that a certain conversa- tion we were having with a friend of mine was being moni- tored by one of these fellows, so when we came out of the house we made a definite effort to locate it. We did. It was down in the ditch near the front of the house. As soon as we spotted it, apparently the people controlling it became aware of the fact. We literally punch a hole in the field structure of the Earth: a little round cylindrical hole on this side and big conical shaped hole on the other side. They stay Lo a ere DE ee About the Speaker: Wilbert B. Smith (1910-1962) held a Master's degree in electri- cal engineering and was the head of Project Magnet, the Canadian government's unofficial investigation into UFOs that lasted from 1950 to 1954. In 1950 he was the senior radio engineer in Canada's Department of Transport (later renamed the Department of Communications), responsible for allocating AM/FM radio frequencies even to the intelligence agencies, and was promoted to Superintendent of Radio Regulations Engineering in 1956. From the late 1940s, Smith had had a keen interest in ufology, and he even wrote two science fiction novels. His seminal work, The New Science, was published in 1964 (see http://www.rexresearch.com). For extensive background on Wilbert Smith and his high- level involvement in the UFO issue, visit the website http://www. presidentialufo.com/smith.htm. APRIL — MAY 2003 NEXUS +53 there for a long time. ; www.nexusmagazine.com