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service when the program covering Moon Dust and Blue Fly began. These missions are both run by the Department of State. Well, that's a half-truth. It's actually Defense Intelligence which really controls both projects—using military attachés in every consulate and embassy in the world, who send data about UFOs—while our military personnel were and are ready to go into action anywhere, in order to obtain any prospective document and make it disappear. PH: Such as documents about recovered UFOs which the USA has always hidden on the basis of certain agreements? CS: Iam absolutely certain that the majority of the foremost governments and intelligence agencies know the truth about UFOs. Don't get me wrong: we don't know how much has been disclosed. PH: What didn't you say in UFOs Are Real? CS: I didn't say very much about Moon Dust and Blue Fly. 1 got hold of certain documents, but when I tried to find certain information I got nowhere. They told me that for the moment it was probably classi- fied material and could not be divulged. I then went to certain members of Congress, who denied—through political channels—both the existence of operative units with these names and the role of Fort Belvoir. I went back to the same congress- men and showed them 23 documents which confirmed these missions and the Fort Belvoir operative base. The Air Force intervened, at first claiming that they were war missions and then trying to make Moon Dust and Blue Fly out to be pacific. In the three chapters devoted to Moon Dust and Blue Fly, I have not included let- ters which name members of Congress who stated that the related documents had been destroyed. That's pure disinformation on the part of Defense. The Attorney General knew about the Air Force's cover-up but didn't follow up with an inquiry. PH: Why not? CS: For two reasons. Firstly, if we claim that life elsewhere is possible, then we should reach a technological level which can be applied and integrated into culture in case of hostilities. Secondly, we'd feel the need to understand our visi- tors as much as possible, and this consti- tutes a serious problem. In the Army, they repeatedly told me not to expect or anticipate all the meetings with the so-called "entities"—the EBEs. They called them "entities" because they didn't CS: That's a subject which worries me a know where they came from. Later on, lot. I was once on one side of a table and they told us that they may even be hostile. there were non-human beings on the other. Every now and again we shot at them and No one in that room knew what was going they responded with weapons. I call tell on, but / did. you about an episode which took place in PH: Have you ever talked about it? Brazil. Two military contingents opened CS: No. I told my soul that I'd take it fire from the ground on two UFOs which all with me to my grave. Instead, it was responded, causing a 60 per cent loss of | Congressman Steven Schiff who died, and materiel and an 80 per cent loss of person- _ I still have a lot of doubts about his death... nel. So were we capable of standing up to PH: So, after your sighting as a child, hostile action? Not at all. A lot of people the government monitored your interaction believed an Independence Day scenario with aliens, using you, we could say, as an was possible. But in reality, an invasion of interlocutor with other races in order to hostile forces from space or from other _ glean information? powers was underway—and I'm not talking CS: Exactly. It was the government about one race, but 57 different races. which wanted to squeeze this information PH: Fifty-seven different races? out of us. CS: Yes, we have identified fifty-seven. PH: I mean you, you in particular. PH: Is this documented? CS: There are a great deal of things I haven't ever said. CS: So, if your job was to be an inter- "Two military contingents mediary do you Deneve that there will be opened fire from the CS: We have already had contact. PH: But in the near future? ground on two UFOs CS: Definitely; within 25 years. We are which responded, causing moving towards a militarised space which will lead to the opening of new frontiers in a 60 per cent loss of pening . research and development. We will materiel and an 80 per become voyagers in space; we will go cen loss of ersonnel." towards other solar systems. Current tech- Pp nology doesn't allow us to draw our discov- eries together and put A, B and C together in order to get B. If space becomes mili- CS: Yes it is, but in documents which tarised, it will be a threat to our visitors. will never be published—unless they man- _ It's easy to see why. age to force open the archives. Do you We need to use technology responsibly now how we know all of this? There's for the betterment of our race; and if other only one possible way: using so-called _ intelligent species really exist up there, we "interactions" or "interface exchanges". have obligations towards them. We, as a Anybody who worked in this field and __ race, are still not mature and spiritual revealed they knew about these secrets was enough to do this. Do I believe in God? told, "You have a special mission to carry Yes! And they believe in God, too. But out". In any case, if I told you everything our definition of divinity is probably in I've done, you'd find it hard to believe me. conflict with theirs, which doesn't mean I loved my country, I believed in the that we have a different point of view... Army and in doing my duty in Vietnam, But they are also ready to defend them- even if it cost my life. It was destiny. So, selves. I think they will continue to moni- even though I had been declared unfit for _ tor us until we constitute a threat, within service, I arrived in Vietnam and realised _ the next 30 years. that the wrong people were giving the This [showing me a page in his book] is orders. My task was to gather together the a document taken from an intelligence children and help them. In the end, we memorandum which was sent to the FBI. saved 1,700. It should have been destroyed. I told the PH: Talking of children, do you know — FBI that the Air Force had authorised its about particularly gifted subjects who are release. They didn't know that the Air used by government agencies as inter- Force didn't want the information to be preters or interfaces with aliens? released. And it worked. "Two military contingents opened fire from the ground on two UFOs which responded, causing a 60 per cent loss of materiel and an 80 per cent loss of personnel." CS: Yes it is, but in documents which will never be published—unless they man- age to force open the archives. Do you now how we know all of this? There's only one possible way: using so-called "interactions" or "interface exchanges". Anybody who worked in this field and revealed they knew about these secrets was told, "You have a special mission to carry out". In any case, if I told you everything I've done, you'd find it hard to believe me. I loved my country, I believed in the Army and in doing my duty in Vietnam, even if it cost my life. It was destiny. So, even though I had been declared unfit for service, I arrived in Vietnam and realised that the wrong people were giving the orders. My task was to gather together the children and help them. In the end, we saved 1,700. PH: Talking of children, do you know about particularly gifted subjects who are used by government agencies as inter- preters or interfaces with aliens? 66 = NEXUS DECEMBER 1999 — JANUARY 2000