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they said that it would be found...in '95 it
would be found...well, nothing's come out
that's indicated they've ever found it, so I
assume that that prediction's a miss until it
shows up some day.
But they said that it was an alloy of cop-
per and gold, and it was hollow and metal
and it sat on top of the Pyramid. And that
there was a passageway internal to the
Pyramid that allowed...stairs that allowed
exit at the top of the Pyramid so people
could go up inside of the top of it. And it
was an integral part of the machine in some
fashions: it would work without it, but
with it, it allowed other things to go on.
The other things that it allowed to go on
were that when the instrument was fuelled,
and it was fuelled by gases, those airshafts
that everybody talks about were never air-
shafts—in fact, they were sealed...cut
halfway into the granite; it's only by chis-
elling away that they can actually find
them—but they were like valves, if you
will. They were conduits that were able to
measure the pressure that was inside of this
machine, because, when these gases were
activated, incredible pressures were exert-
ed inside the machine.
And the gases, along with the star energy
that they were collecting, and the instru-
ments allowed this machine to actually
bend time. They could actually look at a
star and not see it as 10 light-years away;
they could look at the star in today's time.
So that was the big...it's like a big break-
through in an observatory today. Instead
of looking at something that died 10 years
ago, you can see it in real time.
AB: You have just given me more new
information on the Pyramid than I could
have ever imagined. And all of this came
to you when you were there?
GMS: It came to me there. In fact, it
was so remarkable to me that I published it
in my newsletter immediately, and then I
continued getting information, and then it
was so much that I had to put it in a book.
It was just more than I could gather
because the details, they came...the
specifics of how they built it, and what
things are used for, and its location on the
Earth. There was just so much data. And
then I stayed there...I never left the Giza
Plateau. We had plans to do all of Egypt
but I just kept going back...and when I'd go
back, that same guy would be there and he
would just let me in.
AB: I have one other piece of news for
you that you may not know. The same
man, Dr Hawass, has just announced that
he plans...as you know, it's closed now...he
now has plans to permanently close the
Great Pyramid. Isn't that interesting?
GMS: Well, I have spoken with him.
He called at one time just to ask my
insights on things, and I told him what
would be found next and where it would be
found. I gave him the actual specifics of it,
of how to find it and where to find it. And
then he just thanked me and said goodbye,
and that was the last conversation we ever
had. So I never knew, from '95 on, what-
ever happened with that information.
The information that I had was that
underneath the Sphinx were these large
chambers...and how to get access to it and
where it leads to and, more importantly,
the archives that are stored there. It's like a
time capsule. There is a series of rooms
that have artifacts from...some of the arti-
facts date back 200,000 years. Most of the
artifacts are current to that day, which was
12,500 years. It's a whole history of the
culture, who built it, why they built it, and,
most importantly, predictions that they left
behind for a very specific time in history.
AB: Do you believe, Gordon, that the
world is now ready for the information that
would be revealed should that be opened—
in other words, that we...our origins are not
as we thought but, rather, there have been
people on this Earth, or creatures on this
Earth, long, long ago? Is the world ready
for that?
GMS: Weare. I think that perhaps
we've been ready for a little while. Part of
what science has done is enable us to date
a very civilised, very intelligent human
being 10,000 to 20,000 years. We've got
igs in Turkey and other places that date
8,000 to 20,000 years, where they have
tile and plumbing. And we've got a lot of
stuff that we've found that doesn't make
any sense. It's found in strata that we can
ate to 50,000 years, but it doesn't make
any sense because they couldn't possibly
have had that technology then!
We're in this acceleration that we talked
about earlier, with the Internet. With all of
this energy that's moving so fast...you
know, 20 years ago if you had your show
and you were talking about aliens, my
guess is—and I think the statistics would
have proven it—that it was in the minority
for the people to believe that there's life out
there. Here it is now: I don't know when
was the last time they ran that survey, but
I'm willing to bet you that
it's better than 70 per cent.
AB: I'll bet it is, too.
Gordon, hold on, we're at
the top of the hour. You
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(Source: Art Bell,