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Kewper: They just said "near Roswell". almost like a mother ship, and they tried to shoot it down but the Howe: But they didn't specify? thing just shot all the aircraft that they had pursuing it, right out of Kewper: No, no. They didn't specify if that was the craft they the air in just a few seconds, with whatever lasers or whatever had captured near Roswell; they didn't specify that. They just said they [alien craft] had—death rays, something like that. "near Roswell", and I understand they had two or three craft they Howe: What is the source of your information on this? had picked up there that same summer of 1947. Kewper: This is through my friend, through my boss's son. Howe: Did anyone talk about the weather balloon story as When he talked to me in 1993 he mentioned that they'd had an being deliberately floated to obscure...? ugly incident there where the aliens had actually attacked some Kewper: Yes, they did, and they said it was a cover story. The type of a military base from where they had sent the planes up to weather balloon was a cover story. attack [the mother ship]. Howe: To cover up the fact that extraterrestrials and craft were Howe: Did you ever learn what type of being was in that craft? retrieved. Kewper: No, I didn't. Nobody did. It was a flyover-type thing Kewper: Yes. And I asked them why they covered this up. and nothing landed, so no one would know what was actually in This was 10 years later... there. But I know the big craft contained many small saucer craft; Howe: In 1957? it was almost like an aircraft carrier, like we would have with air- Kewper: Right, in 1958 [while visiting Area 51]. I asked him planes on it. [Colonel Jim], "Why do you continue to cover this up?" Well, he Howe: So, in summary, you went from 1957 to 1960 seeing said it was covered originally because the Cold War was just these highly classified reports about extraterrestrial beings, tech- starting and somebody up in the government—I'm sure it was nology and t. You actually saw 16-mm black and white probably President Truman—had requested a tight cover on this autopsy/dissection film of the six-fingered humanoid when you because with the Cold War starting and now having aliens flying were in the CIA. You actually went to Nevada, to Nellis AFB around, he thought it would be too much for the American public and Area 51, where you personally saw at least seven different all at once. But it was perpetuated, and even to this day they are craft and the live being that was described as a "grey" with large still covering it with balloon stories. black eyes and was different from the six-fingered humanoid. Howe: Now itis 1998. This is 40 And yet, when you left the Army years after you first saw the 16-mm Signal Corps and CIA work in 1960, black and white film of the six-fin- there was still no understanding about gered humanoid dissection, and the relationship between those beings there still appears to be a policy of l know that we have worked or why they were there. silence and denial about this together with Russia on this... Kewper: Yes, that's right; one- extraterrestrial interaction. Why do hundred-per-cent right. At that time you think the government has not and that Russia is involved with there was a question mark, a big ques- told the United States and the world particle beam weapons, too, tion mark as to why they were here. what they know? . In some cases—apparently some of Kewper: You would think they from satellite and from ground. the US sightings—they were tremen- would have by now. But I know that dously friendly. at the same time through the Cold Howe: Were friendly? War era back in the 1950s—I was Kewper: Yes, were friendly. And, involved with it—the CIA in a lot of of course, there were all the abduction cases in regards to these unidentified flying objects did contact things that came out later. There weren't any in that original Blue and work with even the Russians during that time of the Cold War Book file that I had seen at that time in Blue Book. I know there to see what they had, because the Russians had contacted us in were quite a few later that said they were abducted. regards to UFOs as they had UFO sightings also. They contacted Howe: And did you ever see any references to animal mutila- us because they thought it might be some kind of advanced flying tions or unusual deaths? craft that we had, and they were calling us to warn us to keep Kewper: Yes. At that time we had it out in Colorado, I think. them out of their area because they thought they were our craft. I saw some of those. Different parts of the animal were taken like We told them they were not ours. samples—the stomachs in some, sex organs in others—and [the Howe: If Russia and the United States were secretly trying to animals were] apparently mutilated with a laser weapon of some talk with each other about an extraterrestrial presence, did you kind that left very precise cutting edges. ever have any further information over the last 40 years about Howe: Did you read about any such cases in that 1957 to 1960 what our government's understanding of the agenda or intent of time period? these beings is by now? Kewper: Yes, especially from Colorado. Kewper: I know that we have worked together with Russia on Howe: Even back then? this, especially since the Gorbachev thing and we became more Kewper: Yes. friendly; and that Russia is involved with particle beam weapons, Howe: And was there speculation on the part of the Central too, from satellite and from ground. We had actually given them Intelligence Agency or the military about the relationship between the particle beam weapon to be able to shoot down any of the these unusual animal deaths and the extraterrestrials? saucer craft. Kewper: Yes. The only thought at that time, if I remember Howe: But why would we try to shoot down craft if we per- correctly, is that they [extraterrestrials] were taking samples of ceived these beings to be benevolent? these various animals on the Earth just to see more or less what Kewper: Well, it could be something that happened since that their different functions were... time. I believe it would have happened over the [former] Soviet Union because I know they had a big craft go over that was Continued on page 88 together with Russia on this... and that Russia is involved with particle beam weapons, too, from satellite and from ground. 72 ¢ NEXUS l know that we have worked Continued on page 88 AUGUST - SEPTEMBER 1998