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you'd be okay. But if you treat with nutrition or preventive medi- L: Ha! What do you think? cine, you're risking your licence. G: Who was the one who interviewed Dr Rea before they got I could go to any hospital in this state, because I'm qualified in sick? And who published "Can oil-fire smoke affect your health?" cancer, and give 5-Fluorouracil to a colon cancer and kill them. I in Blazing Tattles? (Me, me, me!) can show you now twenty articles that prove that 5-Fluorouracil L: Right! . doesn't work in colon cancer. If I used this same patient and hung G: It affected my health—I was living in Florida and I had to a bottle of intravenous vitamin C on that same patient, I risk losing | wear a mask some days to go out. my licence, even today. Why? L: Right. It's the companies. It's the chemical companies. It's the drug G: Because I am extremely sensitive. companies. That's what it's all about. So it's pretty clear that this L: Do you remember we used to use X-ray fluoroscopy to see particular controversy between clinical ecologists and convention- __if our shoes fitted. If you talk to a ten-year-old boy today, he al allergists has nothing to do with the science of medicine. Ithas would say: “God, I can't believe people would be that stupid. It's to do with economics. gotta be a lie.” And if we are successful, ten years from now I'm G: I didn't realise on what scale. gonna tell a ten-year-old boy that we used to spray pesticides from L: Oh, it's enormous! airplanes and this boy will say: "God, that's stupid, those are poi- G: As a sociologist, I just thought it had more to do with the sons. You wouldn't do that!" stuff you leam which becomes your ‘reality’, and this is a threat to G: I lived in Florida years ago and they sprayed right over my reality when these other people are doing something else. I house! thought it was on that level that the problem existed. I didn't L: There are several reasons for the problems we have. One is realise that it was much more, you know, organised. the inertia of the average medical community, which is legitimate. What I don't understand—what I wanted to ask you, if youcan Physicians should be conservative, but the problem is here. that explain it to me—is that people like to think of themselves as good _ there are special-interest groups which are funding the mainte- people, okay; so how do these doctors who are bought off, main- nance of the status quo. These are the manufacturers of tain their self-image as good when they Mevacore, Inderol, steroids and all that. are harming patients? Isn't there some G: So it's the food industry and the drug self-deception involved? industry, and now you have your defence L: Um-huh. ; contractors. G: Like, they feel they believe that "The same thing that these L: It's exactly the same mentality and anyway, So it's okay to take the money? 4 : ethics as when they ran the wars. They L: To some extent, yeah. Everybody's Gulf War people got. It burned the Reichstag, they sank the Maine, got car payments, That's what it's all does have aname: Pearl Harbour was a ‘sneak’ attack, the Gulf about. And, yeah, they'll lie and cheat and . of Tonkin incident was a nefarious thing. steal and testify. The Nazis testified. And Chemically-Induced It's the same bullshit all over again. Same I don't know that the Nazis were all bad. |mmune Dysregulation." thing. But the difference, I say, is that we Hughes is no better than Hitler was. now have a foothold because the cannon- G: How's that? fodder is a 'real American’. It's not a 17- L: I described to you what was going year-old boy: it's a guy who can buy a on. The major difference between Hitler politician, who can invest in a political and Hughes was that Hitler went after Jews. Laotians and action committee, who can buy an attorney. Cambodians didn't scream quite as loud as the Jews did. I mean, real Americans—people who hold mortgages, and pay G: Well, they talk another language. taxes, real Americans—are being poisoned. They are dying of L: And they looked different. The difference between the Arab cancer. government and the American government is the Arabs sacrifice G: How are they making the connection? I mean when I was a 14-year-old boys for greedy politicians and the Americans sacri- kid, cancer was 'an act of God’. Like my father's uncle died of fice 18-year-old boys for the same reason, so I guess the cancer when J was four years old. In those days, it was an act of Americans are a little more honourable. Who knows? Yeah, let's God. But today, most cancers are environmentally produced. face it. The bottom line is that these people are scoundrels, but L: Right. Right. they justify themselves. Camegie was classically a scoundrel and G: So how does the adult American know this now? Because so was Rockefeller, but they put a lot of money into that. Whatdo there's so much stuff in the mass media? you think that Nobel did? He made dynamite to blow people up. L: One of the reasons is that our lawsuits are high profile. In And we have the Nobel Prize. I mean, give me a break. People fact, I've got to tell you honestly that I got involved with the clini- are proud of having a Nobel Prize. What for? They made the cal ecologists for this very reason, so we could get Joe Six-Packs money from blowing up women and children. If you didn't know _ involved. Unfortunately, I made a lot of trouble for the clinical that, it's because you didn't want to know. ecologists because they were considered to be a sweet little group of nothings until I started moving them, and then they are really DESERT STORM SYNDROME HAS A NAME just considered the pariah. G: Now, some of the Gulf War vets have come down with ail- There's an attorney who is the chief counsel for Monsanto, and ments. after the District Court's decision on Sterling vs Velsicol, the L: Yea. Chemical Manufacturers Association had an emergency meeting. G: And a lot of doctors say, "Well, this is just stress.” This same attorney at that time was the chairman of the commit- L: Right. They have to, in order to keep their licences. tee, and he's quoted as having said that if people believe Levin's Oe Mthare om: "Wall thaw had thic ail emacrad all avar tham DESERT STORM SYNDROME HAS A NAME G: Now, some of the Gulf War vets have come down with ail- ments. L: Yea. G: And a lot of doctors say, "Well, this is just stress.” L: Right. They have to, in order to keep their licences. G: Others say, "Well they had this oi] smeared all over them. They were breathing the fumes. NEXUS 45 Continued on page 72 AUGUST - SEPTEMBER 1994