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and she had full-blown AIDS. It was a real tragedy because she I would like to shift gears, however, and bring in another indi- really kind of represented all of our daughters, and her courage vidual to share a different perspective on this, and one that we was phenomenal. She died in the clinic and that's when things _ haven't talked about in the past. Basil Wainwright, welcome to started to tumble very quickly. She died from a series of compli- _ our programme. cations. I'm not a medical expert but I believe she received two BW: Thank you very much, Gary. I must congratulate you on insufflations too close together and her body had trouble coping _running a super programme and a very courageous one too. with the amount of ozone that she had taken in. She also received GN: Basil, you are now incarcerated in Florida? those against doctors’ orders, so I guess it would have to be WG; Thecs date. = ¥ wor ot voor Usicasc: how oxy tack- chalked up to human error rather than anything to do with the ground effects, I = oh sales for that I am currently a equipment. She received the ozone via the rectal insufflation. laced dwn acre tn lew. GN: ‘You mean the Philippine doctors had suggested she not_ = GN: From what I understand, you are a scientist and you are tales those? . : the inventor of this polyatomic machine, this ozone machine, and SAT: Actually, it was the American doctor, the expert on the that you have been incarcerated without trial for three years. Is ozone, who had said this girl shouldn't have another until she that correct? recovers a little bit. She had remarkable success on the equip- BW: Yes, I'm now well into my third year without trial and ment, though. When I first arrived I was afraid Jodi was not going sone: seven vislafions of my basic human rights to make it until the equipment arrived. There were all kinds of GN: What are those violations? . customs hangups that prevented the equipment from getting into * = the country and getting set up on time. So the patients arrived BW: Well, there's the 4th amendment and the Sth amendment, ahead of the equipment, which was a real management error ‘he 6th amendment has been violated, and the 8th, and 14th. So... because it just added too much stress to the patients. GN: What has happened to your attorney filing proper motions GN: By the way, who raided the clinic? to get a fair and speedy trial? That's one of the constitutional pro- . i visions for people who are incarcerated. I SAT: It was raided by the Depart et haven't heard of people waiting three of amnesia. years except this particular political PA Bend 2 the FDA detainee who was here in New York, the IRA supporter who was held for some SAT: There was not any evidence that seven a the FDA had been involved; but whatI ",..15 patients had improved That i i i was told was that the story really got P P BW; That is absolutely right. Well, it a . 1 all started that—teally, I suppose I should underway when Australia's version of A T-cell counts, one as high asa pve yun dill jeer isanan; 2 ioialigume- Current Affair did a scathing story on the oF a ta | was cece we ir Wi in cn and what he patens were aut — SE experience, just as they were getting on ject along with Medizone, and then got the plane. I was told by another journal- very much involved in the process. And I Pe nt > whom i that ACA <] was somewhat intrigued to find that one who went in to the Departnc?l! 0! ____iii_as\|iamssssss nobody had really done any specific test- — — tipped a off; so I there. I was also told 8 1 looking at the cytotoxic levels or, that is, the concentra- th te wie adlipeat a aur aor — 7 tion of ozone, looking at the specific atomic structures of that, and iat the producers were directed by their upper management to do atsq the contacting time; so there were an awful lot of areas that a ‘chuck job’ on the ozone therapy. And no matter what they were articularly interested me. I worked with the University of told, no matter how much positive information they were given, it Medicine and Dentistry and also the Mt Sinai Hospital with Dr never aired; and I watched this happen time after time. . Weinburg and with Dr Michael Carpendale, and started to get GN: So, in other words, there was a gross bias in the media, —_yery, very involved in the course. from your interpretation, to prevent positive stories about the suc- It was very evident there were some phenomenal results being cess of ozone from getting back to the general population? seen in the AIDS area and I started to look at it more in-depth. SAT: It's not even a question of interpretation. I watched it There were several controversies going on as to whether it was a happen; I watched the participants give interviews; I gave inter- function of free radical reaction or oxidation—but of course both views myself. We would turn on the TV and we would be of those functions occur extensively—and also this ionisation; and shocked at what actually would show up. Paul, whom I was | wanted to determine the specific parameters of that, because telling you about, would tell his entire story; he would show his — when people refer to ozone you might just as well refer to a vehi- feet, all of those things; and he made a comment in one of the tele- cle being involved in a collision because you're not really defining vision interviews where he said, After I got going I could just feel the atomic structure of ozone which can be multifold. ‘There can it in my heart that this was working. That little snippet is the only he many aggregate combinations of molecules which can have thing that they would use, and then they would cut to the doctor very specifically different responses, and I wanted to determine saying, Well, you know, there's a certain amount of mind over hig. matter, and all that kind of stuff. So they were completely dis- 3 . - missing the science of it and trying to make it sound like their A. ies De Vieuia = Reape Fh —. improvements were all in their own minds; but 15 patients had pag a way of determining that the ozone being used lasts ten ois improved T-cell counts, one as high as a 70% increase. not as effective as the way you could create a better ozone; they . . were using O, but you also saw O3 and O,. GN: We are talking with Sue Ann Taylor about one particular BW: Yes. type of therapy and one clinical experience that was interrupted in the Philippines. A group of 19 individuals with AIDS and ARC underwent a particular type of ozone treatment. As you have — Hi Sn eee eal heard Sue Ann Taylor say, remarkable results were shown in the a Si grecwan Iniiiing-sniie-virdl smerivetiany majority of patients. Unfortunately, the clinic was raided and GN: = . closed down and the participants went back to Australia. : Now tell us about what you found with what you created GN: And you also were looking at two major factors: the con- centration in relationship to agglomerate measurements, and oxi- GN: We are talking with Sue Ann Taylor about one particular type of therapy and one clinical experience that was interrupted in the Philippines. A group of 19 individuals with AIDS and ARC underwent a particular type of ozone treatment. As you have heard Sue Ann Taylor say, remarkable results were shown in the majority of patients. Unfortunately, the clinic was raided and closed down and the participants went back to Australia. 30°NEXUS DECEMBER 1993 - JANUARY 1994