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He shook his head negatively. "The object at this time was out of my sight. But its reflection came off a mountain - or I assume these reflections were from this object. Because it was not three minutes after it left our view that we were in radio contact with Thompson. And it had gone in that same general direction. You see, to the north of my home are mountains which border the reservoir. And it apparently went beyond the mountains, just out of my line of vision. But I believe Sergeant Thompson said it came in from his northeast. That's when he first saw it. He just looked up - and there it was. But Lasked: "Oh, you mean they were like brilliant reflections of sunlight on water that you can see from an airplane when you're looking down at a river or the sea?" "No," he answered. "They were more or less like reflections, say, from a gigantic flashbulb, something like that. They just went flash-flash-flash, about a second or so apart. Maybe two seconds apart, but no longer." "Getting back to the position of the object when you first saw it," I said, "how did it compare with the antenna tower position? Could you get any estimate of its altitude or speed?" "I don't know about altitude," Sergeant Gordon told me, "but I've been judging speed for 12 years now as a police officer, you know, and I would say it was moving no more than 20 miles an hour. It moved steadily. No deviations, whatsoever. No erratic turns or anything like that." He looked puzzled. "No, I don't. I really studied this thing. I saw it for about five to seven minutes and I was honestly looking very closely for wing-lights or tail-lights or the set-up of lights that you find on a helicopter. But I never saw any such lights. And I had this object in my vision first from an 80° angle to my left, and then right in front of me, and then all the way out as it moved away. So I think if there had been any other type of lighting on the object, I most probably would have seen this. The thing I saw was a very odd type of light." "Well, that's just it," he said. "I've never before seen anything like this. A lot of aircraft fly over this area. And it wasn't, say, an airplane with a strobe light, which is very, very bright. It was mellower than that. Let me see. How can I put this? For example, when you look at a star there's sort of a twinkling effect, while with a planet there's even, to a degree, some kind of fuzziness. This object had none of these effects. It was just white, you know. Not brilliant white as with a strobe light. It was these flashes-there were three or four, I don't recall exactly." This statement I should point out, contradicts the actions of the UFO as Sergeant Ben Thompson of the Reservoir Police later saw them and reported them to me. I then asked Sergeant Gordon: "Do you have any idea of what it was that you saw?" "Did you hear any noise at all?" I asked. "None whatsoever." My next question was: "By Very odd type of light,’ what do you mean? What would it compare with?"