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128 confirms the first report--the one about the saucer 56 miles up, at a speed of eighteen thousand miles per hour. Q. Mr. Moore says it was absolutely sure it was not hallucination. He says it should be carefully investigated. Q. Could I see the complete file on that case? Also on Mantell, Gorman, and the Eastern Airlines cases? Q. I've been told that Project "Saucer" had the Air Force put out a special order for pilots to chase flying saucers. Is that right? A. Yes, it did. When the project first started checking on saucers we were naturally anxious to get hold of one of the things. We told the pilots to do practically anything in reason, even if they had to grab one by the tail. {p. 151} A. Yes, I knew about him. We think he was mistaken, like the others. A. We did investigate. We just don't believe they saw anything. A. That's out of my province. Q. If Project "Saucer" is ended, then all the files should be opened. A. Well, the summaries have been cleared, and you can see them. Q. No, I mean the actual files. Is there any reason I shouldn't see them? A. There'd be a lot of material to search through. Each case has a separate book, and some of them are pretty bulky. Q. There were 722 cases in all, weren't there? A. No, nowhere near that. Q. Then 375 is the total figure--I mean the number of cases Project "Saucer" listed? A. There were a few more--something over four hundred. I don't know the exact figure. A. Yes, that's right. Q. Did that include National Guard pilots? Q. Were any of those planes armed?