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"Well, it's all abstractly plausible, it sounds like an account that takes all the various elements and contrary factors of experience into consideration...but there's one thing that bothers me. This 'Lucifer', this prototypal Negative Consciousness, is nonetheless an expression of the Creative field, right? It's the Anti—logos, and of course that reactive ‘attitude' implies the Logoic reality already...no?" ye a) "Quite right." "Then this 'Lucifer' must have some sort of 'body', some sort of 'Vehicle' — you even mentioned that It wishes to absorb all the light that's gone out into the creative fabric back into the juncture of its Vertical axis' — so this seems to be a kind of Consciousness reflective in one sense of the standard pattern — the mind/body form or cerebrospinal Line that, according to your description, takes place through the dimensions and states—of—being as the common denominator of their fields. And if that's the case, even conceding the differences in organization that must obtain between the so-called 'positive' and ‘negative! polarization—alignments, how is it possible for there to exist a vehicle or formal pattern of Conscious functioning no matter how comprehensive, which serves the integrity and amplified whole—value of Being best by feeding itself on disintegrative values of energy? Isn't that just a flat contradiction? How could such an Entity function at all, and especially in such an apparently coherent manner, when the materials that necessarily compose the substance of its functional form are maximum expressions of Chaos, virtual anti—patterns themselves?" "That's a very good question, one which involves a principal 'secret' of reality altogether; and the 'secret' simply shows an implicit bias of reality toward the Creative, the inherent validity of the Logoic project. "Chaos is, like the Luciferian ‘attitude’, a proposition within the creative field—of—being; and as such, it may nave more or less internal self—consistency and justification, just like any other proposition. The term of Chaos, as it happens, embodies an implicit contradiction. It's one of those 'proposals' that attempts to negate the very thing underwriting its being. "Chaos' for example implies a maximum state of meaninglessness, random turbulence and so forth. Well, just as chaos-theorists are now finding that the term 'chaos' represents a state or condition hiding a type of order within it and that 'randomness' itself sorts out forms of organization which may underlie the elusive presence of ‘negative entropy’, at an even more primary level it's possible to recognize Chaos as a proposition proceeding from the inescapable Medium of coherence, intelligibility and innate value i.e. it's a proposition of the unitive/integral presence of Consciousness, with respect to the potential of its creative field. Since that field is an expression of Consciousness, borrows against and incorporates that integrity through all the variables of its seething, interchanging patterns, the irreducible presence of meaning and coherence emerges out of the fact of cognition itself. "Any theoretical denial or negation of 'meaning’, is itself a meaning imparted to the creative processes of consciousness; any such denial is a secondary reflex, a function of the essential void—being of all variably—patterning processes whereby any, integral complex or provisionally—fixed form of ‘intelligible unity' may be cancelled, vetoed or cognitively negated...while never in fact being able to 'lose' the clinging essence of overall meaning and renewable significance at all, since that operative void—term is the very agency through which the (infinitely integral and self—coherent) value of Consciousness readjusts the interpretive focus of the creative field." "Exactly. If for example we understand the term 'chaos' in its less radical and absolute sense, i.e. as chaos-theorists understand it, it's the necessary spirit of indeterminacy imparting maximum creative variance and elastic novelty for the continuous invigoration or refreshment of patterns; it's the factor of surprise, the informing state—of—things that allows the introduction of unexpected degrees of freedom in the combination 193 T-Bird_Vs_The_Flying_saucers.htm "So if I understand you correctly, Chaos has an innate coherence of its own."