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D: I'm trying to relatethis to what I have leaned about between lies states, the socalled "dead" state. When people arein the realms between their physicallies. In this condition a body is no longer needed and the soul isfreedfrom thebody. Is this different from what you'retalking about? Or is yourfourth-dimensional word similarto living on differentplanes of existence between lives? P: Well, it is. It's not similar, it is the same thing, yes. When some- one dies here, they have the option of living on another planet if it meets their requirements. There's no difference here or there, it's strictly a matter ofbeing on one plane or another. Nn. Tana D: Tsee. Treally didn'tunderstand. These strange concepts were making me dizzy. I was having difficulty thinking of questions that made any sense. D: Then how would you dieifyou pure enrgy? You don't die as such. You disformulate your vehicle. For instance, when someone's usefulness has expired or they have met their lessons there's no longer aneed for that vehicle. So it is disformulated and the energy is returned to ... wherever it is needed. However, the entity's personality remains separate. Itwould seem to me that ifyou were in asociety where you could not die, thatpeople would want to remain thereforever. No, you would be bored very quickly. For instance, ifyour lesson ofthe third grade is over, why would you want to stay in the third grade for the rest ofyour life? Some people have such afearof dying, they areso afraidofthe unknown that they'd wantto stay where they know... (interrupted) It could be comfortable, but there would be no learning. No challenges? That's true, that's true. We were speaking ofthe city. Doyou use vehicles? Yes. These are vehicles which are pure energy as everything on the fourth dimension is. They can be formulated and disform- ulated as the need arises. D: What I'm tryingto understandis, why would you need vehicles ifyou have the ability to use pure energy andpuremind ? P: It's no different from here, from using a station wagon or a 66 The Keepers of the Garden