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compared with the strongest metal that could possibly be made on Earth. I could compare it to a diamond in strength, but this would not be accurate. The diamond has different visible prop- erties which make its strength. Even if it were possible, a dia- mond would not hold its strength were it put into a sheet. D: Are these ships constructedonyour home planet? P: (Pause) This is hard to say. I don't think I can answer thatright now. This is not something thatis allowed to be talked about... for some reason. This is not so much a disallowment as a lack of process. Canyou see how the ship is operated? The controls are operated by touch. Ts this the way it is steeredorguided? [ce This is the way the commands are given. This is not how it is accomplished. There has to be a interface between those who are guiding and that which is guiding, and this interface is touch. This allows the operator to tell the equipment what it is supposed to do. There are areas on the console which are touched for a given command. It might help to clarify the idea of the touch controls by illustrating how some appliances here on Earth today react to touch. There are what is called in the technical circles, touch-sensitive devices, which are not moving parts. They are sensitive to or are changed in their nature by touch. Are you familiar with this? Have you seen Tvs, televisions which change channels merely by touching? D: Ithink so. Those are the new ones. It was obvious that Phil was drawing on his knowledge of tele- vision repair for comparison with the devices he was seeing. P: The fuel of the ship is ... Ituses crystal power. The crystal is the channel or a filter which focuses cosmic energies and directs them to generate thrust. The crystal is approximately two feet tall and somewhat more around. It's in the shape of two circu- lar pyramids base-to-base with the points pointed outward- trapezoidal. D: Are the pyramids round with smooth sides ordo they havefacets? P: The sides are faceted. And they are flat on the very tip-top ends of the funnels. The Keepers ofthe Garden knowledge, as Iam not familiar enough with the manufacturing