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D: I wonder what it was a sample of? P: I don't know. I don't wantto know.... I don't want to do this. ButI do. Because they need it. D: And they don't tellyou what they need itfor? P: Ididn't ask. I don't want to know. : Doyou still have your clothes on? : No. They were removed in the hallway. Before the room. . How didyoufeel about that? It didn't bother me. Something about the clothes ... they were dirty, contaminated, not to be taken indoors. Inside the ship, but not in the room. D: What happened after that? P: Lots of love. (Pause) They did something with my head. I don't remember what. Some pressure device, or some ... sort of stimu- lation. I don't know. Some sort ofenergy. (Unbelieving) They removed my consciousness! Somehow, removed it. They're showing me how they can remove your consciousness from your body, and like put it in ajar. So that your body can be worked on or ... looked atwith no harm to your consciousness. No need for worry. I don't know how. (This must have been the sensa- tion that Phil described in the dream ofa giant thumb pressing him out of his body.) It was sort of like saying, ''Here you are. You're here. You're not there." Istill feel pressure ... in ajar. Se eT . a : Did itfeel like you were in ajar? Yes, Iwas in ajar. Idon't know how. Could you see your body ? Yes ... on the table. The thing was sticking a long silver needle into the back, and I didn't feel it. I'm notsure how this was done. It's like the body had feeling, but the consciousness didn't. The body remembered the feeling, but not the consciousness. They ae ioe eee separated the two. D: Did they do anythingelse to the body? P: They did more after the needle. They cleaned the body with some kind of light. Radiated it with purple light. Almost like ultraviolet. To remove germs. Then more tests. Eyes. Tongue. Ears. Lots of probing, poking, checking. Looking for some- thing. I don't know what. DNA? Use... touse ... to use the DNA. D: Why do they have to do so much probingto do that? 218 The Keepers of the Garden Phil's voice then switched from that of an excited, frightened