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specifically?" 62 REVELATIONS "There was an incident in which I was an actual witness, involving the recovery of a craft that was later listed as a Soviet sub. I was in the command center when it happened, and I can assure you it was real." "Have you yourself ever seen an alien?" That is the question I have learned to ask of everyone I meet in such circles. "No," said Cooper frankly. "Have you even seen part of a crashed disk?" "No, but I know two different men who were assigned to guard crashed disks and who have spoken to me." "Have you ever seen UFOs yourself?" "Once, in the late summer of 1966, I was on watch on board a submarine, the USS Tiru, SS-416, on the way to Seattle, and three of us saw a disk as large as an aircraft carrier rising out of the sea two and a half miles away on the port side. It rose and was lost in the clouds, then it came back down again." "Did it disturb the ocean?" "Not really, the water would glide around it, as if it was drawn by a force field." "Were there briefings given to high-echelon officers before 1971?" "There must have been, given the information in the documents. The texts stated that the first secret project was established at Eisen- hower's orders in 1953. Ike asked Rockefeller to help him in setting up an organization that could conduct a study without government agen- cies or Congress being aware of the situation. Rockefeller established it under the Jasons, an elite intellectual group. The task force was composed of twelve men, including Kissinger, Dulles, Brzezinski, George Bush, and eight others, who became known as the MJ-12 under Operation Majority." "Where did they meet?" "At a place they called the Country Club. This way they could mention it openly without anyone knowing what they were talking about. It was a piece of land in Maryland which Nelson Rockefeller had set aside for the Jasons. It was only accessible through the air." "And the information that was kept secret had to do with UFOs