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THE COOPER 60 REVELATIONS BRIEFING Bill Cooper and his girlfriend Annie met me on March 29, 1989, at seven o'clock on the Queen Mary. Our first contact was open and frank. Bill is a big fellow with a fleshy face marked by a scar on the right side of his forehead and another scar down the length of his nose, suggesting a life of action and real danger. For dinner we went to the Chelsea, a seafood restaurant aboard the ship. We ordered drinks and we jumped immediately into the subject of the aliens. No tape recording was made of our conversation. Accordingly, the following is only my own recollec- tion of what was discussed, not a word-for-word transcript; it may differ in some details from Cooper's own recollection, and if so, I apologize to him in advance. "I've read your recent interview [in the MUFON Journal] where you say you don't believe in MJ-12, so it made me wonder why you wanted this meeting," he began. "The interview was done before I met John Lear," I replied, "but I will grant you that my position hasn't changed that much. I believe there is a UFO phenomenon which is physical in the usual sense, but it can manipulate space and time in ways I certainly don't understand; perhaps there are people around who understand it... ." "They do," he stated with sanctimonious confidence, "but go on." "I further believe, as you do, that the U.S. government must have been studying it for many years. That does not mean that MJ-12 is real. There is a hall of mirrors one enters as soon as the intelligence commu- nity is involved, and we're right in the middle of it. Then I talked to Linda Howe and Fred Beckman, both of whom recommended that I listen to John Lear, who is an impressive fellow, and he said I should talk to you, and here I am." The waitress brought our drinks, Cooper and his companion lit up their cigarettes, and he began telling me his story. "I became involved in the UFO question as a Naval Intelligence man," he said in a matter-of-fact way that I found frank and convincing. "In the period of 1971-72 I was ordered to brief several high-level