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84 Essentially, there are spectra of energy which are sub-electromagnetic and sub-material - but which are nevertheless very real and very physical. The use of the term meta-physical in relation to this area is very incorrect and time-restricted: A hologram or a flashlight would be metaphysical or supernatural to a human 500 years ago! This is a key point, that the energy and spectra of energy referred to here are naturally occurring aspects of the creation. They are all around us and within us. It is not other’. It is not supernatural. It is not metaphysical. It has simply not be studied and understood adequately by modern science - and it has been by advanced ET civilizations which are interstellar competent. There are numerous accounts, dating back for decades, of very ordinary humans seeing one of these ET craft and directly interacting with it by thought alone. That is, the person may think iOh, I wish it would move to the right’ and the craft will move to the right, or as it starts to leave he may think, iI wish it would turn around and come back' whereupon it immediately stops, turns and comes over. A few such accounts may be dismissed as coincidence. But there are so many of them that empirically one must reach the assessment that these objects have telemetry capabilities which can interface with directed thought. As Ihave written elsewhere, this class of ET technologies may be viewed generally as consciousness assisted technologies (CAT) and technology assisted consciousness (TAC). That is, their technologies utilize that nexus referred to above where mind/conscious thought interface technologically and reproducibly with matter, machine, communication devices etc. CAT is when the individual (or group) consciousness and thought assists or interfaces with a receptive device. TAC is when a device augments, projects or assists an individual or group's consciousness or thought. For example, CSETI has located a former Bell Labs/Lucent Technologies scientist who, more than 35 years ago, while working on a covert research project, was given an ET communication device by a general. This scientist was asked to study and reverse engineer the device - that is, take it apart and figure out how it worked. Here is his story. Upon receiving the device, which was a round object about the size of a grapefruit, dark and textured on the surface, it began to speak' to him directly in his awareness with thought. He was startled by this - especially when the device mentally told him that the people who had asked him to study the object had malice in their hearts and that the scientist should destroy the device! After struggling with what to do about this conundrum, the scientist accidentally’ over-heated the device in an experiment and it was destroyed (at least materially). But after it was destroyed, he heard one last thought which said iThank you...'. I know that this sounds very strange. But the strangest things are true, and this account is one of those very strange but true accounts. We may wish to run at light speed away from such information - and go back to our radio signals. But the future is here and if we do not meet it wisely others -like the general who originally provided the device - will hijack the future to places where we do not want to go. Dr. Haines Over the past 8 years, CSETI has gone all over the world pursuing this phenomenon and observing its manifestations. Others are better at photography, landing traces and the like. There are dozens of day light photographs of these devices. There is radar evidence. There are over 4000 landing traces documented by Ted Phillips. Dr. Richard Haines has hundreds of pilot accounts of these objects. Our purpose has been to interact with these ET s on their level. To consider what their reality is and to go there. It is an experiment and an experience. It has Loe ete a et ee a 2 Over these 8 years we have had experiences and seen phenomena which involve every aspect of what has been described qualitatively in this paper. A brief listing of this phenomena communication systems do not have real time delays due to the coefficient of cosmic drag vate de mentioned above. been mind-blowing for all concerned.