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57 briefings about the beings, and were they referred to as "extraterrestrials"? Kewper: Yes, they were referred to as "extraterrestrials". Most of the time they referred to the one out there as a "grey". Howe: The one at Area 51? Kewper: Yes. They just referred to it as a "grey". Howe: Did they have any live six-fingered humanoids anywhere? Kewper: No, not that I know of. That was one of the questions I asked the military man on the way in thereif this was the same kind of being. He'd mentioned they had a being that we were going to look at, and I asked if it was the same being as Roswell. He said no. And I asked if they had any beings like at Roswell, and he said no. Howe: And Roswellfrom your point of view in 1957 when you were shown the six-fingered humanoid film, did it identify in the introduction where exactly the six-fingered humanoids had been retrieved from? Kewper: They just said "near Roswell". Howe: But they didn't specify? Kewper: No, no. They didn't specify if that was the craft they had captured near Roswell; they didn't specify that. They just said "near Roswell", and I understand they had two or three craft they had picked up there that same summer of 1947. Howe: Did anyone talk about the weather balloon story as being deliberately floated to ae obscure...? story. Howe: To cover up the fact that extraterrestrials and craft were retrieved. Kewper: Yes. And I asked them why they covered this up. This was 10 years later... Howe: In 1957? Kewper: Right, in 1958 [while visiting Area 51]. I asked him [Colonel Jim], "Why do you continue to cover this up?" Well, he said it was covered originally because the Cold War was just starting and somebody up in the governmentl'm sure it was probably President Trumanhad requested a tight cover on this because with the Cold War starting and now having aliens flying around, he thought it would be too much for the American public all at once. But it was perpetuated, and even to this day they are still covering it with balloon stories. Howe: Now it is 1998. This is 40 years after you first saw the 16-mm black and white film of the six-fingered humanoid dissection, and there still appears to be a policy of silence and denial about this extraterrestrial interaction. Why do you think the government has not told the United States and the world what they know? Kewper: You would think they would have by now. But I know that at the same time through the Cold War era back in the 1950sI was involved with itthe CIA in a lot of cases in regards to these unidentified flying objects did contact and work with even the Russians during that time of the Cold War to see what they had, because the Russians had contacted us in regards to UFOs as they had UFO sightings also. They contacted us because they thought it might be some kind of advanced flying craft that we had, and they were calling us to warn us to keep them out of their area because they thought they were our craft. We told them they were not ours. Howe: If Russia and the United States were secretly trying to talk with each other about an extraterrestrial presence, did you ever have any further information over the last 40 years about what our government's understanding of the agenda or intent of these beings is by now? Kewper: I know that we have worked together with Russia on this, especially since the Gorbachev thing and we became more friendly; and that Russia is involved with particle beam weapons, too, from satellite and from ground. We had actually given them the particle beam weapon to be able to shoot down any of the saucer craft. Howe: But why would we try Kewper: Yes, they did, and they said it was a cover story. The weather balloon was a cover