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55 film? Kewper: Yes. WW A aaa Howe: And did you see the panels themselves actually there with the craft? Kewper: Yes. They were there with the craft. They were trying to figure out the electronic circuitry because there was no wiring of any kind that they could see. But later on when they had it at Groom Lake, they had a couple of scientists there who used microscopes to check over the fingertip-control harnessing and found little fibres going out from it. They found out then that it was a fibre optic type of electrical transmission throughout the craft. Howe: All done with light. Kewper: Yes, it was light. The report I read originally said that when they looked inside the craft it was glowing with a real thin light inside from all the circuitry fibre optics. Reverse- engineering of that is apparently where we got fibre optics from. Howe: What was the colonel saying to you about these discs in relationship to where you were going next? Kewper: He just stated that these are some of the craft we have picked up and captured in different parts of the world. Apparently some of them were even brought in from overseas from some point or other, but I gathered that most were captured within the US. He then mentioned that we were going back out to the general office area and another smaller hangar area to see the being, this extraterrestrial being, that they had there at that time. Howe: Try to walk us through what happened next. Kewper: Okay. We went from the hangar area where the saucers were, out to a covered walkway area and into an office complex, I would call it, because it was a bunch of small rooms and offices. They had a special room for viewing that had one-way windows in itone- way mirrors, rather. We could look through the window into this small office, and the being that was in there was not able to see us through the mirror because there was a mirror on his at4l Wl. A aaa an side. Howe: And what happened? Kewper: They said we could go in and talk to this being, and at that time I chose not to go in. Years later, I wished I had, but I chose not to go in because they did tell us that the being spoke telepathically. The colonel had more terms added to it other than telepathically, but the being wouldn't speak in any manner that we could hear through our ears. So I chose to stay out, and the other four people did go in. Howe: Your boss, the three other CIA guys and the Colonel Jim? W _ NT Kewper: Yes. Howe: Now, can you describe the being exactly, from your watching this and listening? Kewper: What the colonel called him was a "grey". He had the large head and bigger eyes, kind of slanted bigger eyes. He looked like he was wearing sunglasses because the lenses were real dark. He had kind of a slim face down to a peaked chin with just a little nose area, a tiny slit of a mouth and just holes in the side of his head for ear openings. Howe: About how tall? Kewper: About five feet, something like that. Howe: What was the surface of the skin like in colour and texture? Kewper: Yeah, it was greyish looking, but it looked fairly coarse, not like the smoothness of our skin. Howe: Now what happened between your boss, the three CIA guys and Colonel Jim in that room communicating with the being? Kewper: My boss did ask him, "What are you doing here? And why do you come here?" The only answer he got was, "We are not here to conquer the Earth. We are not here to destroy anything. We are here to add knowledge to humans so they can gain more knowledge in different areas." Howe: Those are the hand-imprinted, six-fingered control panels that were with that autopsy ca He [the CIA boss] said it was probably like a 16- or 20-letter name where he was from, but he