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190 anyone-the technology has existed for a very long time to cure cancer. The technology has existed for a very long time to give us all the free energy we need, without utility bills. And he said another thing interesting, which was in his area of expertise; he said, "You know, the technology exists to create abundant growth in deserts, without water, using magnetics." He said, "At it's most optimum, you can see the crops grow like a time-lapse photograph." There is no need for anyone to be hungry, anywhere in the world. But the point of telling you that story, apart from the interest of it, is that he said, basically, "If people are going to say no to just one thing, please tell them to say no to the microchip." He said this is because the microchip is not just about electronic tagging, as some conspiracy people think. Yes, it's about that, on one level, and it's certainly not just about making it easier to find your child. He said people don't realize the level of technology that exists. He said the real use of the microchip in the population is to give external control of people's thinking and emotional processes through external signals and pulses. He said these microchips, once they're inside you, the pulses that they send out to them-and a lot of the Star Wars thing is all, actually, the veil for the technology to control these microchips-they will be able to externally make you aggressive or docile, sexually aroused, sexually suppressed, suppress your intellectual state so that you stop thinking to your capacity. And the idea is to literally turn humanity into a race of externally manipulated robots. We are now in a situation where these microchips exist and they're just waiting for, probably, "problem, reaction, solution" to create a situation in which the chips become accepted. And, it's interesting, when I spoke in South Africa last year, I got a heck of a lot of publicity very soon after I arrived because they didn't realize what I was saying, and a lot of these things were live, of course. So, I was out there talking, and before they realized what I was saying, in a matter of three or four days, I talked live for 25 minutes to 29 African countries, on one occasion. As a result of this there was tremendous interest. Winnie Mandela came to one of my talks. I had a private meeting with P. W. Botha, the former President of South Africa. I'll tell you a story about him in a second. There was tremendous interest. One of the journalists who'd interviewed me on one of their main Current Affairs programs called me about two days later and he said, "I've had a very funny chap calling me." He rang, he said, and he didn't see the show but someone had told him about it. And he said he demanded to know how I, Icke:, knew about the microchip plan. What it turned out is that this guy got the wrong end of the stick. He'd got the impression that I'd gone on this Current Affairs program and talked about the South Africa microchip program. I knew nothing about it, at the time. What I was talking about, of course, was the microchip agenda, globally. Anyway, this guy, as a result of thinking I'd talked about it, blurted out some things because he was saying, "No one should know about this! Everyone's been sworn to secrecy!" And the journalist said, "What are you talking about?" And the caller said there was a company in South Africa which had been producing the microchips for the South African people, and they'd all been sworn-Official Secrets Act and all this stuff-not to talk about it and that the agenda that they were working toward should not be known by the South African people. This came out as a result of him thinking I'd blurted it all out, and I hadn't-I'd just talked about the global thing. So these things are happening in every country. But the P.W. Botha thing is interesting. This is a nice one, and it's never come out before. I mentioned it in The Biggest Secret, I think. Never came out, to my knowledge. Winnie Mandela came to one of my talks in Johannesburg, I mean, a thousand people turned up! They were going crazy for it in South Africa. After a lot of publicity, I got a call from the daughter of P. W. Botha, who was President during the apartheid years when Mandela was involved in the '80s, with F.W. de Klerk, and it was de Klerk who lead Mandela out and all that stuff, which again was all part of The Agenda. It just turned South Africa from overt control to