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42I like to spend a lot of time on the coast and had come down Sunday morning to visit a lady friend of mine in Shell Point. I don't like to go all the way down there for just one day so during the winter I have my sailboat either at Jacks or at Carol's dock. I don't like being on the water all that much in summer so now I have brought my sailboat up to my place in South Georgia for the winter and instead have a bed under a shell in the back of my pickup for sleeping when I am at the coast. I proceeded Sunday afternoon to head over to Jack's house on Dickerson Bay and not finding him at home got on his computer and was doing my exopolitics stuff. Jack as usual showed up but went to take a nap. Before dark a lady came to the door asking for Jack and the barking of the dog woke Jack up and he came out to meet her. I went back to the computer but Jack called me out to meet them and there was Evan Harris Walker with Jack on the porch along with the lady from Evan's cancer institute that is located in Tallahassee. Evan lives in Washington but comes down here from time to time to deal with his Institute. Evan and Jack have gotten to know each other because some of the sea critters have anti cancer properties. I had been in contact with Evan years ago while I was working with Jack Sarfatti's Stardrive discussion group. Evan and Jack Sarfatti had heated discussions over the internet and were bitter adversaries on the subject of the physics of consciousness and how UFO's propulsion systems operate. To Jack's surprise, Evan warmed up to me and the subject of UFO's rather quickly and Jack found himself being cut out of the conversation and hushed up when he tried to get cute. Pretty soon the no see um's ran us off the porch and indoors where we all had a lively discussion until late in the evening. As usual some of it was pretty funny when Jack began to protest and ask why if the ET's were all around why they had not contacted him. Evan said Jack's problem was that he wasn't being sincere in asking them to drop by for tea as he did not believe in their existence, and besides he wasn't asking politely enough. Jack had to admit that was true. Ann came in and sat down next to Evan who she was familiar with, being one of the founders of the consciousness movement, and became a bit uncomfortable with Evan talking so openly about ET's. It was really funny and I got really tickled with her body language and posture. Ann is an academic with a PhD in Marine Biology and trusts people with credentials much more than Jack and I do. I feel that Ann has bought into much of the debunking of UFO's from credentialed sources like Carl Sagan in the mass media and has in the past not been very open to the subject. Interestingly, Evan Walker one ti me in Washington had been in a elevator with a top scientific adviser to President Johnson and this adviser had answered a question about UFO's by saying that he had to maintain plausible denial on the subject. Evan felt that this person wanted to talk about the subject being that they were fellow scie ntists but could not because of government constraints. The next day, Monday, also turned out to be a fruitful day. I spent the night in the back of my truck as Jack gets up all hours of the night writing and I am a light sleeper. The next morning Jack was so busy we could not eat breakfast together as we usually do when I am around. I walked up to the Coastal Restaurant near Jack's house and lab. I got into a discussion with a lady at the restaurant that I did not know that was a re tired aircraft engineer and we discussed exotic aircraft propulsion systems. As I was walking out of the restaurant Jack came by in the car to grab me for a assignment as he usually often does when I am around. He needed someone he trusted to go out with the collection boat and remain topside while the divers collected marine