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"No, we got big chunks of this stuff from the bottom." Harry spread his arms apart to indicate the size. "Maybe foam is the wrong word. Some of it was decomposing while we were bringing it up." The ex-navy diver continued with more details, and again mentioned all the ships that were there. He also kept referring to the dive off Shelburne Harbor. None of this went along with the facts Chris had learned about the Shag Harbor UFO. It was Bob who first ventured an opinion. "We're not talking about the same thing here, are we? This is another incident. I mean, you're talking about several navy vessels sitting on top of this thing for a a= -1 week." At this point Harry realized that Chris and Bob had made the connection. Chris got the impression that Harry was divided - he wanted to reveal information that he knew should be kept secret. He now au 1 at Chris listened to Bob and Harry swap "war stories" for a while (Bob is retired from the Canadian army). One story Harry told was about the recovery of a body from an airplane, in three hundred feet of water off the coast of Maine. It must have reminded him of Shelburne, because he forgot himself for a moment and began describing some of the measurements they took with sonar and soundings to pinpoint the location of the object under the water. reminded him. Harry held up a hand. "I can't talk about this. I know you're not going to leave it alone, but I'm not going to say anything else. Look, we all saw it and there was no doubt that it wasn't anything from here. You know, I've dived on sunken Trackers and naval vessels. I've pulled bodies out of the ocean, and cut up material with torches underwater. This was the real thing." After that he would say no more. Chris and Bob thanked him and said good-bye, then headed for Bob's car. Once inside, Bob turned to Chris. "You know, that's your real story. You should have pushed him a ee) harder." "Maybe. But to be honest with you, I was a little confused. I'm not convinced there's anything to it." They argued about it on the way home. Chris checked with some of his acquaintances, and even his father, who is retired from the navy, to see if anyone could shed some light on this latest information, with no success. He decided to try another became reluctant to talk more about it. Then he pulled up short. "I can't go any further with this," he said. "Why not?" Chris asked. "But we're talking about two different things here. You're the one who mentioned all the ships," Bob "Were the ships searching for an intact craft?" Chris was pushing him a bit now. "Yeah, we knew there was something down there, and we knew it wasn't anything from here." "What do you mean?"