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16 sitting in an armless chair, in front of desk where a man in his mid- thirties stood. He wore a white shirt with a navy blue tie, and closely cut hair. He was leaning over the desk glaring at me, pounding his fist and demanding at me, “You have to tell us where they are! You got to help us find them!” There was a guard standing directly to my right who was dressed in a typical, military camouflage uniform, holding a rifle. “Help you? Find who?” It then began to sink in that something was truly wrong here and I exclaimed, “Hold on, where am I?” Immediately following that statement one of them said, “Oh, she’s waking up!” Then suddenly I was out again.” “A third controversial topic avoided by many researchers focuses on military involvement with aliens and abductees. For Lisa, as is so oe a saad oe woe ¢ a4 with the military surfaced in a dream. “T was being interrogated by the military,” she said, “pushed and made to lie crouched on the ground. In the back were some trucks, and beside them were guys in black uniforms standing watching me. The men asking questions were in regular military clothes. They held me down with the butts of their guns. They told me to give them the knowledge and they said ‘at any cost.’ I told them I didn’t know what they were talking about, and they just repeated themselves ” In these examples there seems to be a clear delineation between the aliens and the military. Neither group seemed to be working together, and the government interrogators were obviously out of the loop in regards to what was going on. They were always a day late and a dollar short. Another feature is the antiquated methods of information extraction - drugs, threats and intimidation, pounding on the desk and waving a gun around. But if these memories accurately represent what really happened, and these military factions truly had a need for interrogations to extract information, then it’s safe to say that they were pretty bottom rung level based on their methods. Of course when it comes to this subject nothing is what it seems to be, and there could very well be a strong possibility of games, and Chasing Phantoms i “The Secret War” - Heidi Hollis, page 131 often the case with abductees, the first memory of a possible encounter “Taken” - Karla Turner, PhD - page 75