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127 Then there’s something that pertains more to my brother and his later “Shawn Hill” agent provocateur programming, and adamant beliefs that “none of this was real.” Kathleen mentions “Otherworld programming” where the target is convinced that the reality they’re occupying isn’t real, so therefore, they’re free to do all the criminal mayhem they want....because it isn’t real! “In ‘Otherworld’ nothing was real [...] I believed nothing in that world was real, I had zero fear of carrying out instructions on black ops...didn’t fear being hurt or killed [...]Jno fear of being arrested — after all, the crime had never happened!” This is THE most accurate description of Joe’s attitude I’ve ever seen in a book about mind control programming. Joe had no fear about being caught, hurt or killed as he went about his criminal activities, because he truly believed in a way that I’ve never seen with anybody else that “none of this is REAL, Carissa!” as he once tried to explain to me in Portland, Oregon. His lack of fear led to a state of being invincible, and that, coupled with his “skills” meant he was able to pull off some unbelievable feats, things I can’t get into here. I actually do think that this reality is a bit...questionable, and isn’t what we're told it is, only because I’ve been witness to some very odd things in my time. Yet there can be no denying that this also seems to be a major disassociative programming tool. As I mention in the section “Untangling Disinformation,” I myself was given a “dream” one night in Oregon narrated by a male “them” that tried to show/convince me that this reality isn’t “real,” it’s just a program filled in with holographic technology. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, in my opinion. It usually is never a polarized choice between two black and white opposites. So to read her talking about this was amazing. I’ve never seen “Otherworld programming,” or how it helps with criminal mayhem black ops stuff mentioned anywhere else. Part II - My Own Experiences —_—_—_—_—_— "es