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53 some of the men did go. I went to the office [of the Research and Development Board] some time after they got back and talked to some of the guys who saw it. I wish I could have gone." Maccabee asked him to relate his impression of what the men told him they saw. "My impression of what the men said who took the trip to Wright Field: the 'people' who operated those things were built different than we. They seemed to have no inertia, seemed to be like insects, maybe they were robots [Maccabee's note: This seemed to stick particularly in his mind]. While no "smoking gun" resulted from the exchanges with Dr. Sarbacher (who died in 1986), his credentials were verified, and thus the amazing memo by Wilbert Smith was given great credibility. Clearly, wreckage and probably bodies were at Wright Field in the early 1950s. Sarbacher told Friedman in a face-to-face meeting in 1983 that there could have been several crashes and that he did not know which crash had produced the materials seen by his associates. The value of the testimony by Sarbacher and Smith is in the substantiating of rumors of the involvement of Wright Field as a place where materials and/or bodies were located, at least temporarily. Even though Dr. Sarbacher was not able to add a great deal of detail, his stature makes the confirmation of government knowledge of crashed UFOs more impressive than any previous testimony. A key bit of information was the first mention of Dr. Van- nevar Bush in connection with UFOs. While investigating him, Friedman discovered that Bush was the common link among the groups named in the secret (not top secret) September 23, 1947, memo from Gen. Nathan Twining that listed those to which copies of the best saucer information should be sent. These included the Joint Research and Development Board and its predecessor, the Office of Scientific Research and De- velopment (Bush headed both and was thus close to the devel- opment of the atomic bomb, proximity fuse, and other major projects); the National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics (Bush had been chairman of this NASA predecessor); and the THE CANADIAN CONNECTION