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113 there, as had photographer F. By who described the scene where he was taken to shoot pictures of bodies under the total control -f-- -0e F. B. described another photographer being driven away to a different location where wreckage was being collected. This may have been the original "debris field," or it could have been the spot where what was left of the saucer ended up. Clearly, more information is needed from men who were there and who Next to nothing is known about the recovery of material and bodies from the San Agustin site, as the army did such an efficient job of sealing off the area. While it is not far from a paved road, it is in Catron County, the least heavily populated county in New Mexico, which in those days was one of the least populated of states. The closest thing to a description of post-crash activity comes from a diary kept by Jerry Ander- son's uncle, Ted. While the copy of the diary acquired by Stan- ton Friedman through a complex series of negotiations is not an original (the ink did not exist in 1947), it may be one of several copies made by Ted or Victor in an effort to assure the information's survival. In it, he states: John T. and I talked on the phone and he said the Army is still out on the Plata [one of several local terms for the area] and they are combing the sand and putting stuff in bags and boxes and hauling it all away on big flat trailers. He said they have lights out there and all kinds of things. All the roads are blocked down there by the Army. John said they have machine guns and tanks and all that kind of stuff. John.. . said the Military is asking all kinds of questions up at Horse Springs store and Magdalena. Making a lot of noise about what could happen to traitors and that you could get shot for talking about military secrets. It seems only logical that the material from the San Agustin crash could have gone to Alamogordo/White Sands, 150 miles to the southeast of the site, or perhaps to Kirtland AAF or Sandia Base at Albuquerque or even Los Alamos, north of Kirt- RETRIEVAL AND SHIPMENT of an officer. so far have refused to describe their experiences. aroun Wee ted hoa °