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93 uncle, ‘cause they were kneeling, squatting down right next to it. At one point, my uncle Ted had reached out and touched it on the shoulder like he was trying to console it. At that point it wasn't recoiling in fear anymore. I was very close to him when he did this ... about three feet away. It looked around at all of us. It was like it was trying to watch everybody at once. I think that might be one of the reasons that I picked up on it being afraid. It acted like a cat that was around kids. It just constantly watched everybody. It looked at me sev- eral times. It seemed very uneasy, even when it had calmed down to a certain degree. Because Glenn was around there ... I went around to see where my brother was. My brother was up on the edge of this thing and he was looking inside that rip in the side. He cut himself on the side of his face, or nicked himself. And I went around to that side when he came out and I could see in there where he was at, because the saucer was tilted, the edge was tilted down and jammed in at that point. I could see directly into it, and was looking through the outer hull and into another bulkhead, and that bulkhead was shaped exactly like the outer hull. You could see through the rip, and you could see what looked like components (I don't know if they were electrical, electronic, propulsion, or what). They were all seemingly hooked together by these cables—clusters of threadlike material in the form of a cable—and one of these was hanging out of that rip. There were several hundred strands per one of these clusters, they were wrapped. They blew in the wind like a horse's tail, except there was lights all over the ends of them. These lights were undulat- ing, they were flashing. Some of them were bright, some of them were very dim, some of them were flashing. They looked like fire on the ends of these threadlike things that were waving in the breeze. And you could see others of those went from one kind of CIVILIANS FIND THE WRECKAGE Was it aware of your presence? Why did you go around behind the craft?