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Because most of our scars and bodily injuries—particularly the minor ones—oc- cur when we're children, when we are learning how to rollerskate and ride bicycles and doing the sort of things where we injure ourselves. Missing time is supposed to be another mark of abduction. Heavens, I experience missing time every time that I look at my watch and say: My goodness, it’s two p.m., I thought it was only around noon. When I go for a drive, I typically experience missing time, because I don’t recall passing this bridge or passing that bridge. It is automatic. It is routine. . . . So—now it is claimed that the aliens leave implants. Fine. And a few such things have been removed from the hands or the bodies of people who allegedly were abducted. Are they micro, tiny electronic, micro electronic devices? No. Nothing unusual about them. And, in fact, the—Dr. Mack has admitted that he’s pretty much given up hope of coming up with a single physical artifact. Now, wait a minute. If aliens are abducting thousands or millions of Americans, and if they’re putting implants in many of them. All it would take would be one little micro electronic, or one unusual device that we could say: This could not have been made on this earth. And that would be the evidence that would convince even me. But so far, they cannot come up with any scientifically credible evidence. or [The interviewer shows Klass a series of photographs. ] NOVA: Budd Hopkins presents this as very good hard physical evidence, of scoop marks, what do you think you’re seeing? What’s going on there? KLASS: It’s simply a small scar on the leg. I have a small scar on my leg. Many people have scars that they obtained in childhood, skating, riding bike, and they can’t remember exactly how they got it. NOVA: Now, what about this? This looks pretty compelling to me. KLASS: This is a spiral in the nose and of (Jane Doe). And it was—the x-ray allegedly was taken by a cousin of hers. When Budd Hopkins learned of it and said: Let’s try to get that spiral out, lo and behold (Jane Doe) wakened one morning, nose bleed—the spiral was missing. I suspect that it was some sort of a spiral device that she inserted in her own nose. And this is simply a fungus which is sometimes referred to as fairy rings. Because it typically grows or forms in a circle [on the ground]. Two hundred years ago, when farmers found this, they said—they named it fairy rings, because they assumed that fairies came and danced around the circle at midnight. Today, Budd Hopkins says this must be where a UFO landed. Simply no evidence for that. It’s simply a fungus. NOVA: What do you mean when you say that you cannot prove a negative? KLASS: Let me give an example. No one has ever proved, to my knowledge, that Santa Claus does not exist. And if one were to fly to the North Pole and say: Well, look, there’s no toy factory there. A believer could argue: Well, Santa Clause knew you were coming and moved his operations to the South Pole. So you fly down to the South Pole. No Santa Claus factory, toy factory there. So the believer would say: Oh, he moved it back up to the North Pole. So you simply cannot prove—one cannot prove that ghosts do not exist; one cannot prove that lepre- chauns too do not exist. One simply cannot prove a negative. NOVA: What accounts for the alleged great similarity of these stories, if not true experience? KLASS: It is claimed by the leaders of the cult, that there is great similarity in these 47