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share things with me and _ he’s fun. . . . The place is like a dream, except the person’s not like a dream. The communication is very real. What else did he tell me? I... think he explained things. Well, you know, it’s almost as though it was somebody I knew. You know, like ‘How are you? How are things here and how have you been?’ It isn’t necessarily somebody I specifically knew but it does have a quality to it. Like somebody I know. ‘Hello, how are you? How are things?’ ‘They’re fine. They’re fine. This is such a nice place.’ AeA 22 nn Mat And—umm-—flong pause] I guess we did talk about the stars. It’s like he says, ‘You know, you look up at the sky. You see all those stars.’ ‘Yes, I have done that.’ ‘And each one of those stars is a place like the sun that has its own places, like your place. And all of those stars have their places. There are a lot of things there, a lot of different homes, and we're from a long way away, from one of those places,’ and it seems that he spent some time explaining to me that there are different kinds of places, you know, some that are like where I live and some that are very different and some that are very nice and some that aren’t and wane the 2 Ae a ne some that are modern and some that aren’t. And so it’s a very big, exciting place to explore. You would like to go and see a lot of different places, what they’re like. . . . Some of those people know each other and some of them don’t, and he knows quite a lot of them. It’s all sort of matter of fact. I mean . . . it’s just like somebody would describe visiting Europe to you, you know, that there are different countries and they do different things in different coun- tries, and you can travel between them like, pretty much like explain- ing to a child about foreign places. are 24 And also that the people that live there are all very different and some of them know things and can do things that are a lot different, mostly friendly, but not all. Kind of a long description of the variousness of life, places that people live and the adventures of visiting different places and learning more about it. And I guess he explains why I am there [in the craft] .. . that I am part of that adventure of discovering a new place and that it [Earth] seems like a nice place, and I say, ‘Yes, it is. It is a nice place.’ And I guess I ask him what his place is like, too, and, umm, what did he say? He says his place is different, that it would look strange to me, but not super- strange, and, umm, he was very happy. He was very happy about meeting me and about visiting, about talking to me. It’s like the whole thing is a big happiness for him, as though he . . . you know, I have that sense that .. . it’s a big deal, happy thing for them just to be talking to me and he’s trying to share their excitement with me. And I’m not so excited as I am just kind of happy about it and—let’s see—he’s sort of . . . he doesn’t tell me too much about himself; it’s like—umm—he has hands, says he has hands, it’s like his fingers are longer. Well, I mean, maybe not longer, but it’s like they’re skinnier. He calls to mind . . . I don’t know whether he calls to mind or his description calls to mind . . . maybe like tree frogs have, you know .. . and I don’t remember if he says how many [fingers]. However, how ever many there are it isn’t like they’re a lot different . . . maybe four, maybe there’s six. It isn’t a lot different. And, umm, I think he says that they’re a little grayer than we are in color and he says that it would take me quite a while to get used to how not me,