PROJECT BLUE BOOK

7. COURSE to be bright enough to light road and surroundiness
Frratic Witness drove home and called three others--thousht
8. PHOTOS it was moon at first but abandoned this hypothesis
because of shape, erratic motion. Discrepancy in because of shape, crratic motion. Discrepancy in
tYB toYB time. Quarter moon was rising and should have been time. Quarter moon was rising and should have been
X7 No visible if eastern horizon entirely unobscured.
9.PHYSIC O IDENCE DENOF "itnesses reject hypothesis of moon even though even thouoh
Yes they failed to see the moon. Rejection emphatic.
FORM
FTD SEP 63 0-329 (TDE) Prevlous sditions of thin form may be usad.
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from them, and so that she will always
say that she saw something that was different from the moon, and the
But then says 'It
Then "it kind
of hovered and then it gradually moved on toward the east. " Hynek'
deseribing swinging. They ask about sounds, wh
In reply to Hynek' s direct question about whether it "moved
across the sky, " they replied "It really actually appeared to move."
From what
was not the moon is that "well, the moon never acted like that. "

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would certainly be very much like the moon coming through the clouds.
the "oval" character which would fit in with the phase of the moon at the
time.
As you read t
answe ering for eac
I am certainly mpressed about either the noise or the -
something of a doubt.
me, it is clear that Says that she is believing in flying saucers.
That she has always believed in flying saucers. And this sort of a belief
could have readily condi l her when she saw and misidentified the
moon.
Hynck gets briefly out of the time discrepancy, but I don't
Pand nothing
from anybody else. assesment of the time, however, seems

syndrome.
I see no stretching of the evidence whatever to identify
fication "given" Hynek
means to distinguish between the actual testimony and possible con-
the evidence as he claims. You do have to take into account the un-
period of at least five minutes. "
The transcript speaks for itself. The engineering student
described what he thought he saw as the moon. The only reason he
doubted it, was because of insistence. And much the same
reason why, from
the evidence itself, at least three of them reporte they were
really seeing something that looked like the moon.
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back again to its general position." Hynek certainly rec-
ognizes that therelbeen "other cases like it." When Ardene
said that it was "directly overhead," Hynek clearly accepts
her statement for its face value. He thinks that it was, as
she claimed, at an altitude of goo. On the other hand, even
if it were relatively low on the horizon, if she thought it
was within a few hundred feet, following her, she would have
clearly still hought that it was "directly overhead." So
I do not thinl hat question to her husband, concerning
Ardene's reliability responsive.
apparent similarity. Each case has to be taken separately. I
mention this point, because I gather from some of com-
ments, that he sees some pattern in the cases that attracts him.
Frankly, I don't. There are too many-far too many-different
kinds of stimuli that give to such phenomena. On a given
night, even from the same locality, reports of ufo's will arise
from a dozen entirely unrelated phenomena. And that : is something

I
relevant to get significant weather data from the local
weather bureau or from, preferably, from any nearby airport.
And I would certainly like to have a chance to interview
Ardene concerning her eyes. She was clearly a believer in
saucers. Was she, by any chance, a member of any saucer
organization? What had she read about UFO's? These are
relevant conditioning things.
Very
NonaedA Menzel
Donald Menze1
DHM/md
November 8, 1968
Returned map of the area as requested.

all estimated that the vas eight to
Interesting case for the late evening of
morning bours of the l5th. The observera
orangish object that moved about in the sky, had a derinite odor, and
5
5. Incidentally, we to not know anything about the decay of any
Russian rocket body over Indiana in late June or early July l968.
Poltax Prantisek. Since it apparently involves St Elmos fire, we
thought that you night be interested.
8
IECTOR CUTNTANILLA, Jr, Lt ColOnel, USAF 4 Atch
Chial, Aerlal Phenonana Branch 1. TAygo N Dakota, 25 Fab 67
Aerospace Technologies Division 2. Evaluation Card, Eielson AFB
Production Directorate 3. Yellow Springs, Ohio, 15 Aug 63
14. Ltr,

forthwith. Otherwise, it will appear that the Air Force is now,
Report.T This would be One
almost certainly St. . Elmo's fire as you surmised

automatic controls for equalizing the exposure. But when one is taking
the picture of a small bright object at night this control does not function
satisfactorily. Are the spots on the picture stars? I would judge that
be the first time that people have called the mqon a UFO. I think that
many of the UFO investigations have failed because the investigators
take the statements of the witnesses at their face value. Under such
circumstances, I subscribe to the motto that "People are Dumb!"

Lt. Col. Hector Quintanilla -3- October 28, 1968
I would also concur with the identification of the Eielson sighting
of July 1968 as the moon.
I had some interesting discussions with M. Minnaert, the Dutch
Astro who was the chief individual working with me in paming
no other scientist that has gone as deeply as I have into the matter, with
the possible exception of Hynek. But something definitely has happened
to him and I don't know what it is. He now seems to regard the cases,
not as individuals, but as part of a broad pattern. Apparently he feels
you must solve the entire problem. In a letter to Condon he states:
"Project Blue Book has limite itself, largely because of lack of funds
and staff, to keeping files and dealing with cases solely on an individual
basis. It is clear that each case, taken by itself, like a lone duck in a
shooting gallery can nearly always be shot down by an ad hoc, frequently
correspond to data in another, independent sighting. rankly, I feel much
of our present ignorance
his unimaginative approach the subject. He, also, must tab the blame
for the fact that the Ai rce questionnaire is so bad.
With thanks and best wishes, I am
. Corffally yours,
DHM:md Donald H. Menzel
.

to him and I don't know what it is. He now seems to regard the cases,
not as individuals, but as part of a broad pattern. Apparently he feels
correspond to data in another, independent sighting. Frankly, I feel much
of our present ignorance of O's must be laid at Hynek's door step, with
his unimaginative approach to the subject. He, also, must tabo the blame
for the fact that the Air Force questionnaire is so bad.
With thanks and best wishes, I am
.
1.
DHM:md Donald H. Menzel

NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
EVANSTON, ILLINOIS 60201
DEPARTMENT OF ASTRONOMY LINDHEIMER ASTRONOMICAL RESEARCH CENTER
11 November 1968
FTD (TDETR)
Research and Aerial Phenomena Division
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
Ohio 45433
Attn: TDPT (UFO)
Subj: August 1968, Yellow Springs, Ohio
To: Hector
1. Enclosed is the record card for the case referenced above.
2.
I did not have an opportunity to talk further with Mr. and Mrs How-
ever, I expect that either on a future trip to Dayton, or indepenuently, I
will have occasion to be in Cincinnati in the next month or two at which
time I would like very much to interview th personally. I am not personally. I am not
satisfied with the lack of details in their espite
technical training he was extremely vague in his description and if this
vagueness persists after my personal interview, I would like change
report, but the moment
I do not have sufficient cause to do this.
I
J. Ailen Hynek, Director
LINDHEIMER ASTRONOMICAL RESEARCH CENTER
NORTHWESIERN UNIVERSITY
EVANSTON, ILL. 60201
JAH:1p
encl.

2. Did you make any effort to clarify the discrepancy of the
Bigiting? (One said 1l:4o pm and one said 12:30 am).
3. 3. Also include va toe ozimuth and d angular elevation of the moon angular elevation of the moon
at halr-hour at halr-hour inter pa,14 August 1963 August 1963 to 1:00 am, 15 August to 1:00 am, 15 August
1968.
ECTOR
Chier, Aeri Chief, Aeria enomena nonena Orfice Orfice
Aerospace Technologies Division
Production Drectorate Production D trectorate

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NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
EVANSTON, ILLINOIS 60201
DEPARTMENT OF ASTRONOMY LINDHEIMER ASTRONOMICAL RESEARCH CENTER
21 October 1968
FTD (TDETR)
Research and Aerial Phenomena Division
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
Ohio 45433
Attn: Atth: TDPT (UFO) TDPT (UFO)
Subj: Sighting of Sighting of August 15, 1968, Yellow Springs, Ohio. 15, 1968, Yellow Springs, Ohio.
To: Lt. Colonel tor illa, Jr.
1. Enclosed is the complete transcript and l a summary of my taped a summary of my taped
interview with the Fogg family, witnesses in t interview with the Fogg family, witnesses in the above referenced the above referenced
sighting, as requested by you in your letter of 26 September 1968. sighting, as requested by you in your letter of 26 September 1968.
J. ALLEN HYNEK, Director
Lindheimer Astronomical Research Center
Northwestern University
Evanston, I11. 60201
JAH:ip

but covered the distance in just a few minutes. She was f frightened, and her
mother-in-law said she came in very frightened, calling to the others to come
out and look. Two did, and their first impression was that it was the moon,
except at a considerable elevation. who is a student at Cincinnati
University and a coop student at the Field in propulsions systems, etc, was
realized that they were all staying outside. He then went out but saw nothing,
not even the moon. He stayed outside for ten minutes and the glow came back, and
moved around, but not much, although he gauged its motion against the branches
of a tree. T The object or glow was now not overhead but about 30 or so degrees
above the eastern horizon. It was, he said, like a full moon shining through
a mist, and definitely not the moon, although he did not see the moon itself.
There also was disagreement on the sound, but they agreed on the odor,
which was strong for about twenty minutes thereafter. One said that he was
not conscious of any sound.
On the basis of the evidence given, particularly as t to the angular
elevation in the sky, the eastward motion when it did move away, and the misty
for a definitive evaluation, or "unidentified". To identify it as the moon
is stretching the given evidence, and by all normal rules of the weighing of
evidence, such identification is not warranted. The fact that not one of the
four saw the rising quarter moon at the time but did see stars, causing me to
think that the eastern horizon may have been obscured. It seems unlikely to
me that all four, particularly the engineering student, would not have recog-
nized the moon over a period of at least five minutes.

Hynek:
for a good many years, that the best way to do this is to just ask you to sort of
reenact the crime, so to speak. Could we all take a deep breath and start in
from the beginning. There are a few things I didn't have straight in the report.
First of all what sort of a night was it?
was dark. There was no moon, but it was clear.
Hynek: You could see the stars?
Mrs You could see the stars but no moon. You could mistake the object for
the moon
Hynek: What s sort of performance did it do? Another thing, there was some
inconsistency in the time. One person says 11:45 11:50, and another person
said 12:30 to 1:00 AM.
Mrs The one that I have down on mine I know is definitely correct. I I looked
was at
last quarter and it rose at ll:36 PM in Dayton area. Now that means that by
12:30 the half moon v would definitely have been visible slightly to the north
of east and that by l2:30 you should have seen t the moon and this other object.
And this is the primary reason why Wright Field tends to feel that perhaps what
figure out is how it
could have had the motion that you describe.
Ardene: Well, first of all about the moon - I really can't remember if there
was a moon or not. I believe there wasn't, but I know there is more to it than

not aware
was and I sort of stepped on it because I was frightened out there by myself.
I noticed it seemed to follow the car so I jumped out of the car and I ran about
12 feet up ahead. It seemed stationary. I thought this can't be because if
it's that far above why is it just following my lights.
Hynek: When you say up above, where was in the sky?
It seemed like it could have been maybe 30o feet above my car, but I
don't know. The angle straight above and it looked like a solid disc and it
had a movement.
Hynek: You say straight above. You mean part way or really straight above?
Just about directly above and it seemed to be following the lights.
Hynek: I'd like to get more of the description of the actual object, and let
me put it this way. If you had some magic way of putting something up in the
there that would most closely resemble what you saw?
Well, I would say most likely when it's directly overhead, a plate - a
plate that was moving very rapidly because this had that sort of a spinning
effect. It was very plain but it seemed to have that spinning effect with a
glow around it.

re: No.
Hynek:
Yes - no, not really. T was the one that was moving at the time. I
on the way past the tree and that was the only time.
Hynek: I'd like to ask you to do this. With your hand point as though you
are pointing your finger at somebody with your arm outstretched, when you first
your arm to have pointed to it?
All the way up it was straigh up
Hynek: You mean when you first saw it, it was straight up?
When I first saw it, it was straight i up and then after that - I don't
all this written out because first of all I didn't know how serious you
was up or not. I But do you recollect what sort of a horizon do you have there
in the east, where you were coming back from Xenia - trees or hills?
night because you just couldn't miss it.
Hynek: the east look? Does it 1ook --
I would say l the sky above, course, is I like everywhere
else.
Hynek: you see clear

Hynek: How far away mercury a block or two three blocks
away?
I would say maybe two blocks a away, maybe more. This was when it was
white. When it was yellow and gold it was more of a softer....it wasn't very
bright - enought so that you could tell, but when it seemed to go into a quarter
piece it seemed very bright and more of a white light.
car in anyway?
No, not that I I noticed.
Hynek: on at the time?
Hynek: What did it appear to be doing? You say following your car, but what
up. I don't know where it came from, when it started, it just was there and the
reason I thought it was following me is because when I would leave the car and I
gout out and I started running toward the house it was stationary, but when I got
in the car and started driving toward the house it seemed to be moving along with
me althought it seemed so far up it would definitely always be above me.
expect.
down.
Hynek:
It's a '67 Sunbeam Alpine.
Hynek: driving with the top down?

All I wanted to do is get
to some population as quickly as possible.
Hynek: So you never stopped the car. You just kept on going.
I stopped the car periodically because T got the idea that this was
following my lights, so I got out of the car and I started running toward the
farm, and I noticed it was stationary.
Hynek: At that itme,
it would have covered.
Okay, at arm's length, at the time it was directly over, maybe 1/50
of it. (At the time she f felt it was closest). When it shot off into the
distance, I would say, it would
Hynek: How auch of the sky did it seem out? You know how large the
full moon looks in t the sky.
Definitely at the first sighting of it it was larger than that. I do
want to s say that when it was overhead it did seem to have a fog or a mist or
something around it, the center part being stationary and the outer part having
a gyration effect.
Hynek: Were there any other cars on the road?
one. I was the only one that I could see.
Hynek: You were about howf far from home at the time?

on up (to her house?) and then it remained stationary. wild thought came
into my mind, so I went back and got the car and I started heading toward the
house again and it seemed to be moving, always being overhead so this is how
I got the idea it was moving along. And I left the car where it was down the
road and ran into the house to get other people, and all of a sudden it got
smaller directly overhead and very quickly shot out to the horizon.
Hynek: the horizon?
A East.
Hynek: Now at that time you should have seen the moon there because the moon
was there in the east. How long after it first happened was it until you talked
to somebody?
Immediately.I Because as I was coming into the house - they were seeing
it move over that way and it was something that went off again and on again
Hynek: are the
and hushand's father.
Hynek: When you first came in - please to the
house, Did you hang on the door, or did you walk in?
just walked on in. I said would you come here for a minute,
there s a flying saucer. They ran out and didn't seem astonished. They said
that's the moon - don't worry - and then I was satisfied. Then we watched it
some more and you could truly tell that it was not the moon and you could truly
tell it was definitely a saucer.
Hynek: When you then came out was s it still overhead?

to disappear for a while. My husband came out and it came back again, and it
moved, not as far this time, and then it got smaller. It definitely, truly was
not the moon. Movement such as this, and changing shapes and colors that rapidly
definitely was not e moon.
Hynek: Let me get the shape of it. You said it looked like a cut of a pie?
Yes, a quarter piece of pie at one instance. It looked like a round
saucer, maybe the bottom part of it, and then it seemed to take a dip or turn
and all of a sudden it looked like a quarter piece of pie.
Hynek: I don't remember whether in your report you drew a picture of it.
drew a picture.
then you just make it rounder from one point to the other, except this is a large
hunk of pie, with that being the top and a very bright light, white light at that
shape. When it looked like this it was a yellow-gold.
Hynek: home from the time you first saw it?
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Hynek:
All of thems saw it the same amount of time. I saw it just a few minutes
more traveling time.

of the Yellow Springs case. The odor was said to be something like
that of a bomber, by which I take it there was a smell of gasoline or
question of odor could have been disposed of quickly, by a few apt
questions.
He should have interviewed the people separately.
And more frequently, he should have drawn husband to one
side, and then asked him such a question. The answer might have been
very different.

light in the sky and when you see it like that it looked like the moon, but then
when you see it actually moving away and changing color the way it did, and the
smell which it left, you could definitely tdl it was not the moon.
Hynek: The calculation shows that the moon came up at 11:36 and an hour from
and almost directly
like a quarter of a
pie.
I'd feel better myself if it had been the moon, but to be truthful I
notice it mainly were just looking directly at that with-
ou! t glancing away.
Hynek: Well, certainly, I would say that the first part of your sighting
couldn't possibly have been the moon.
same sort of movememnt. Like when I was coming into the house, it seemed to sort
of jerk up, but it had the same sort of personality and movement, although it was
not in the exact spot as before I came in the house. I I'd be willing to get to-
gether with
Hynek: I'll be in Dayton again. I get there about once every month and l a half.
How far from downtown Dayton do you live?
In Yellow Springs. I'm getting the campus in
Cincinnati next week.
Hynek: There is a possibility that I will be in Cincinnati on Oct. 9. May I
have your address?
It's Cincinnati.

hour. saw it
Hynek: The others all seem to s say it was before midnight - you had it after
midnight. (To Kingsley Fogg) Now would you b be kind enough to just describe
what you saw from the time that Ardene came in and called you outside.
It just looked to me like an ordinary moon in the beginning. Then I
looked at it and it was in ones spot - then pretty soon it kind of hovered and
then it gradually moved on toward the east. 1 then it gradually moved on toward the east. That would be backward travel of
an ordinary moon to start with.
Hynek: It certainly would be. It certainly would be. Now where was it in the sky when you Now where was it in the sky when you first first
saw it?
it was kind of in a southeast situation.
Hynek: At what angular elevation up - that is, how high would you have to
point?
Hynek: I don't mean how high it was in feet, but I mean how far did you have
Hynek: I'm rather surprised that the moon wasn't seen also, because it rose
at ll:36 that night, however, they may have been clouds around the eastern horizon.
s thing disappeared.

Well, the shape just looked like a flat light, just like the moon would
look, but it was sort of a reddish
Hynek: Well now, if you're familiar with angular measure and arc, how many degrees
did it move from the time that you first saw it 'tillthe time that it disappeared,
10, 20°?
Let's see, I would say it would swing
something like that with light on it?
No, because if you could see like that, you could have heard
s ome engine noise.
Hynek: Well, there were noises, but it sounded like - in t the report it was
described as sort of a groaning sound. as sort of a groaning sound.
Wall. that we had seen back about 11 years ago.
Hynek: Describe the noise, the sound, of this one.
over her and close to her.
on this one.
For about how long?
= 20 minutes after the thing disappeared.
disappear and come back.
Hynek: When it disappeared and came back, how did you judge that - did it simply
get brighter and change or simply move across the sky?

Hynek: Can you
actually watching it? What did yo each other?
That's kind of hard remember.
Mynek: Is Mr. Harold Fogg there - is he the one that works at Wright Field
now - Could I talk with him - What is your feeling about this whole thing (to
Harold Fogs).
don't believe what I saw and then what was explained to me by the
other people. sort that can
operate, at least that I know of, with this kind of capacity. What else is there
to say?
major to speak?
I'm majoring in aerospace engineering, and it's a field I've worked in
analysis structures which does some design work on existing systems and
worked in advanced design.
Hynek: How would in more technical terms, describe the kinematics
of this objest?
tem what I saw, whieh was very vague compared everyone else, I really
couldn't desaribe it, only from what they had explained you: use
their terminology.
Hynek: You nean by the time you got out there, it was mostly gone?

The whole object - I guess everyone
a ring around it.
It was just sort of like looking at the moon on very foggy night. But there was
no fog hazy, the object was hazy.
Hynek: I'm still puzzled by the fact that since the American Nautical Almanac
doesn't lie, and I'm an astronomer so I do know how to figure out the time of
noor rise, the moon did rise there at ll:3o Eastern Daylight time, and what bothers
me is that nobody saw it. It would have been low in the east and only a quarter
moon and it's a little surprising that no one saw it at all. Of course, there may
low clouds toward the eastern borizon which might
when the glow sort of came through and then went back. It looked as if it was
than a blanket
Hynek: Now its motion - were they quite uniform? Did it accelerate or decelerate
or what - or were t they discontinuous motions?
It seemed to me to be spasmotic. I started to see glow in this general
direction and then it seemed to get bigger and more intense a and then it started to
take a shape rathe than just sort of a part of a corner of s some sphere, out to a
round shape, e circular shape and then it sort of seemed to stop and hold this
particular size. Now using a fence post and another sort of . . .. on the ground,
it seemed to move, just very slightly, very slowly to one side, and back again to

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Lucy: When she came in the door, she looked like she was scared to death. She
said "Oh, there's something following me." She just looked like she was frightened.
I'm sure she's seen something. We feel sure it wasn't the moon because we've had
awake to look at it too, I never believed him.
Hynek:
We didn't until this thin happened, and there were similarities except
that this time it was in the opposite direction. We mentioned on the report that
we gave that there were certain things that were similar to what we had seen before.
Hynek: What I mean to ask the report this time?
H
We were asked to.
Hynek: By whom?
sightings.
Hynek: What I should have asked is - how did the Air Force get it in the first
place. Did Ardene report it to the police or something?
She reported it
as thought she should do something so we contacted W-P and they sent her a form.
Hynek: seen that report.
I have a copy my letter here - it was written the 27th of August -
and it's signed by Lt. Colonel Hector Q. I was real surprised when the form came.
In fact, I didn't fill t them out right away because we were busy doing some other
things. Finally, I thought I'd better get busy.

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Hynek: We're always interested in cases which have several witnesses and people
are quite clearly and obviously respectable citizens. So I just with that Ardene
had had someon with her in the car. Alright then for now, and I hope that if I do
talk more with them.
The phone number in Cincinnati
Hynek: I thank you very much for being so cooperative and I can tell you more
about what our investigations are like and what other reports we've had when I
see you. If any of you have any afterthoughts or any bits of information that
you think
Dearborn Observatory, Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois 6O2ol, phone
AC 312/492-7651.
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she came in very frightened, calling to the others tocome out and look.
Two did, and their first impressionwas that it wask the moon, except
at a considerable elevation. who is a student at Cincinnati
U. and a coop student at theriedd in propulsions systems etc., was
reading a book at the time upstairs and didn't come down at once, until
he realized that they were all staying outside. He then ent out but saw
identify it as the moon, is stretching the given evidence, and by
all normal rules of the weighing of exidence, such identification is not
at the time, but did see stars, inclines me to think that the eastern
horizon may have been obscured. It vseems unlikely to me that all four,
particularly the engineering student, would have not recognized the moon
over a period of at least five mihutes. Signed, IAle

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8. IMAGINE YOU ARE AT THE POINT SHOWN IN T ACEAN "A" ON THE CURVED LINE TO SHOW HOW HIGH THE
PHENOMENON WAS ABOVE THE HORIZON, OR SKYLINE. WHEN FIRST SEEN. PLACE A 3^ ON THE SAME CURVED LINE TO
SHON HON HIGH ABOVE THE HORIZON THE PHENOMENON WAS WHEN LAST SEEN.
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AFR 80-17(C1)
GA. NOW IMAGINE YOU ARE AT THE CENTER OF THE COMPASS ROSE. PLACE AN A* ON THE COMPASS TO INDICATE THE
DIRECTION TO THE PHENOMENON WHEN FIRST SEEN. PLACE A B* ON THE COMPASS TO INDICATE THE OIRECTION TO
THE PHENOMENON WHEN LAST SEEN.
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7. IN THE SKETCH BELOW, PLACE AN "A" AT THE POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON WHEN FIRST SEEN, AND A B° AT THE
POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON WHEN LAST SEEN. CONNECT THE *A AND B° WITH A LINE TO APPROXIMATE THE
MOVEMENT OF THE PHENOMENON BETWEEN A" AND "B. THAT IS, SCHEMATICALLY SHOW WHETHER THE MOVEMENT
APPEARED TO BE STRAIGHT, CURVED OR ZIG-ZAG. REFER TO SMALLER SKETCH AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO COMPLETE
THE LARGER SKETCH.
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my paper published in the Roush Hearings. So, perhaps it will have
done so ne good after all, since the reporter seems to be very sensible.
Sunday, November 10.
Sincerely yours,
Donald H. Menzel
DHM:md DHM:md
Enclosure

AFR 80-17(C1)
8. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU SAW THE PHENOMENON? (CheCk aPPrOPTIatE blOCKS.)
OUTDOORS - IN BUSINESS SECTION OF CITY
IN BUILDING IN RESIDENTIAL SECTION OF CITY
IN CAR AS PASSENGER X IN OPEN COUNTRYSIDE
IN BOAT NEAR AIRFIELD
IN AIRPLANE AS PILOT AS PASSENGER FLYING OVER CITY
OTHER FLYING OVER OPEN COUNTRY
OTHER
A. IF YOU WERE IN A VEHICLE, COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING:
WHAT DIRECTION WERE YOU MOVING? HOW FAST WERE YOU MOVING?
NORTH EAST
SOUTH WEST DID YOU STOP ANYTIME WHILE OBSERVING THE
PHENOMENON?
NORTHEAST SOUTHEAST
NORTHWEST SOUTHWEST YES NO
EXPLAIN WHETHER SUCH MOVEMENT AFFECTS YOUR SKETCHES IN ITEMS 5 AND 6
DESCRIBE TYPE OF VEHICLE YOU WERE IN AND TYPE OF ROAD, TERRAIN OR BODY OF WATER YOU TRAVERSED DURING
THE SIGHTING. STATE WHETHER WINDOWS OR CONVERTIBLE TOP WERE UP OR DOWN.
HOW HOW MUCH OTHER MUCH OTHER TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC WAS THERE?
DID YOU NOTICE ANY AIRPLANES? DID YOU NOTICE ANY AIRPLANES? YES NO. IF *YES. DESCRIBE WHEN THEY WERE IN SIGHT RELATIVE TO THE TIME NO. IF YES.  DESCRIBE WHEN THEY WERE IN SIGHT RELATIVE TO THE TIME
OF SIGHTING THE PHENOMENON AND OF SIGHTING THE PHENOMENON AND WHERE WHERE THEY WERE IN THE SKY RELATIVE TO THE POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON.
9. HOW LONG WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT? WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT?
LENGTH OF TIME CERTAIN OF TIME CERTAIN OF TIME NOT VERY SURE NOT VERY SURE
FAIRLY CERTAIN JUST A GUESS
HOW WAS TIME DE ETERMINED
1i-
WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT CONTINUOUSLY? YES/ INO. IF *NO. OICATE WHETAER THIS IS DUE TO YOUR
MOVEMENT OR THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PHENOMENON, AND DESCRIBE SUCH VEMENT OR BEHAVIOR. INDICATE DISAP.
PEARANCES ON PREVIOUS SKETCHES.
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AFR S0-17(C1)
IO. IF THERE WENE MORE THAH ONE PHENOMENON, NOW MANY WERE THERE? DRAW A PICTURE TO SHOW HOW THEY WERE
ARNANGED. DID THIS ARRANGEMENT CMANGE GURING THE SIGHTINGT
11. ConoiTions(Check approprinte blocks.)
A. SKY 3. WEATHER
DAY CUMULUS CLOUDS(LOW LufY) FOG OR NIST
TWILIGHT CIRRUs CLouDs (ligh fleecy or Herring- HEAVY RAIN
NIGHT bone) LIGHT RAIN OR DRIZZLE
CLEAR NIMaUS CLOuDS (Rain) HAIL
PARTLY CLOUDY CUMULONIMBUS CLOUDS SNOW OR SLEET
COMPLETELY OVERCAST (Thunderstorins) UNKNOWH
HAZE OR SMOG NONE OF THE ABOVE
C. IF THE SIGHTING WAS AT TWILIGHT OR NIGHT, WHAT DID YOU NOTICE ABOUT THE SYARS AND MOON? TF TNE SIGHTING WAS AT TWILIGHT OR NIGHT. WHAT OID YOU NOTICE ABOUT THE SYARS AND MOON?
(1) (1) STARS (2) (2) MOON
NONE NONE BRIGHT MOONLIGHT NO MOONLIGHT
AFEW MOON WITH MALO UNKNOAN
MANY MOON HIDDEN BY CLOUDS
UNKNOWN PARTIAL (New Or quorter) PARTIAL (New Cr quorter)
O. IF SIGHTING WAS IN DAYLIGHT, WAS THE SUN VISIBLE? O. IF SIGHTING WAS IN DAYLIGHT, WAS THE SUN VISIBLE? 7YEs 7YES NO. IF YES,WHERE WAS THE SUN AS YOU FACED NO. IF YES, WHERE WAS THE SUN AS YOU FACED
THE PHENOMENON?
IN FRONT OF YOU IN FRONT OF YOU TO YOUR RIGHT TO YOUR RIGHT OVERHEAD (NeM nOON) OVERNEAD (NeM nOON)
IIN BACK OF YOU IN BACK OF YOU TO YOUR LEFT UNKNOWN
E. SPECIFY THE MAUOR SOURCE OF ILLUMINATION PRESENT DURING THE SIGHTING, SUCH AS THE SUN, HEADLIGHTS OR
STREET LAMP, ETC. FOR TERRESTRIAL ILLUMINATION, SPECIFY DISTANCE TO LIGHT SOURCE.
12. GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE PHENOMENON, INDICATING WHETHER IT APPEAREO DARK OR LIGHT, WHETHER IT
REFLECTEO LIGH T OR WAS SELF-LUMINOUS AND WHAT COLORS YOU NOTICED. DESCRIBE YOUR IMPRESSION OF WHETHER
IT WAS SOLID OR RANSPARENT, WHETHER EDGES WERE SHARP OR FUZZY. DESCRIBE THE SHAPE OR INDICATE IF IT
APPEARED AS A POINT OF LIGHT. INDICATE COMPARISONS WITH OTHER OBSERVED OBJECTS, LIKE STARS, A LIGHT OR
OTHER OBJECT IN YOUR FIELO OF VIEW.
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9. DID THE PUENOMENON MOVE BEHIND OR IN FRONT OF SOMETHING, LIKE A CLOUD, TREE, OR BUILDING AT ANY TIMEY
D YES IFYES,"DESCRISZ.
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AFR 80-17(C1)
1S. DRAW A PICTURE THAT WILL SHOW THE SHAPE OF THE PHENOMENON. INCLUDE AMD LA3EL ANY DETAILS THAT MIGHT
MAVE APPEAREO AS WINGS OR PROTRUSIONS, AND INDICATE EXHAUST OR VAPOR TRAILS. INDICATE BY AN ARROW THE
DIRECTION THE PHENOMENON WAS MOVING.
15. WHAT WAS THE A-GULAR SIZE? HOLD A MATCH AT ARM'S LENGTH IN FRONT OF A KNOWN OBJECT, SUCH AS A STREET
LAMP OR THE MOON. NOTE HOW MUCH OF THE OBJECT IS COVERED BY THE HEAO OF THE MATCH. NOW IF YOU HAD
BEEN ABLE TO PERFORM THIS EXPERIMENT AT THE TIME OF THE SIGHTING, ESTIMATE WHAT FRACTION OF THE
PHENOMENON WOULD HAVE BEEN COVERED BY THE MATCH HEAD.
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21. DID YOU NOTICE ANY ODOR. NOISE, OR HEAT EMANATING FROM THE PHENOMENON OR ANY EFFECT ON YOURSELF,
ANIMALS OR MACHINERY IN THE VICINITY? YES NO. IF "YES,DESCRIBE.
Hhee in the
A. DID THE PHENOMENON DISTURB THE GROUND OR LEAVE ANY PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.
IFVES. DESCRIBE
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25. WHEN DID REPORT THAT YOU HAD
NAME - DAY_ MONTH YEAR
26. DATE LETEO THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.
DAY 16 MONTH1XEAR 198
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AFR 80-17(C1)
27. INFORMATION WHICH YOU FEEL IS PERTINENT BUT WHICH IS NOT ADEQUATELY COVERED IN THIS QUESTIONNAIRE, ALTERNATIVELY PROVIDE A NARRATIVE EXPLANATION OF THE SIGHTING.
.
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15HUe68
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
HEADQUARTERS FOREIGN TECHNOLOGY DIVISION (AFSC)
WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE OHIO 45433
REPLY TO
ATTN OF: TDPT (UFO) 871001968
SUBJECT UFO rvation 15 August 1968
TO:
Yellow Springs, Ohi 45337
Your name has been given to the Aerial Phenomena Office (Project
Blue Book) as being a witness to an unidentified flying object.
If you were a witness to an UFo sighting on ,1968
"ould you please return it
in the envelope in the envelope provided. If you were not a witness to this you were not a witness to this
sighting, would sighting, would you please make a statement to this effect on the
attached form. The information which you provide wi The information which you provide will be used in used in
evaluating this observation. Thank you for your assistance in this observation. Thank you for your assista in this
matter. matter.
HECTOR QUINTANILLA, Jr, Lt Colonel, USAF 1 Atch
Chief, Aerial Phenomena Phenomena Office AF Form 117 w/envelope
Aerospace Technologies Division Division
Production Directorate
12

AFR 80-17(C1)
SIGHTING OF UNIDENTIFIED PHENOMENA QUESTIOMMAIRE BUDGET BURZAU APPROYAL
NUMBER 21-R239
THIS QUESTIC RE HAS BEEN PREPARED SO THAT YOU CAN GIVE THE U.S. AIR FORCE AS MUCH INFORMATION
AS POSSIBL
ANSWER AL JESTIONS. HE INFORMATION YOU GIVE WILL BE USED FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES
YOUR
RETUR TO AIR FORCE BASE INVESTIGATOR FOR FORWARDING TO FTD (TDETR), WRIGHT.
PATTERSON AFB, OHIO 45433, IAW AFR 8O-[7. (IF ADDITIONAL SHEETS ARE NEEDED FOR NARRATIVE OR SKETCHES
ATTACH SECURELY TO THIS FORM OR ANNOTATE WITH YOUR NAME FOR IDENTIFICATION.)
I. WHEN 015 YOU SEE THE PHENOMENON?
DAY- 15 MONTH Aa6 YEAR 1968
2. WHAT DID YOU FIRST SIGHT THE PHENOMENON?
HOUR 11 MINUTES 50 A.M. DP.M.
3. WHAT TIME DIO YOU LAST SIGHT THE PHENOMENON? MIDNIG 1
HOUR 12 MINUTES 0O A.M. [SJP.M.
4. TIME/ZONE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS STANDARD
EASTERN CENTRAL PACIFIC OTHER
5. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU SAW THE PHENOMENON? IF IN CITY. GIVE THE NEAREST STREET ADDRESS AND INDICATE ON
A HAND DRAWN MAP WHERE YOU WERE STANDING WITH REFERENCE TO THE ADDRESS. IF IN THE COUNTRY, IDENTIFY THE
HIGHWAY YOU WERE ON OR NEAR AND TRY TO FIX A DISTANCE AND DIRECTION FROM SOME RECOGNIZABLE LANDMARK.
1
OHIC OHIO
6. IMAGINE YOU ARE AT THE POINT SHOWN IN THE SKETCH, PLACE AW *"A ON THE CURVED LINE TO SHOW HOW HIGH THE
PHENOMENON WAS ABOVE THE HORIZON, OR SKYLINE, WHEN FIRST SEEN. PLACE A "B" ON THE SAME CURVED LINE TO
SHOW HOM HIGH ABOVE THE HORIZON THE PHENOMENON WAS WHEN LAST SEEN.
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OBSERVER
AF FORM 117
AUG 67 13

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AFR 80-17(C1)
SA. NOW IMAGINE YOU ARE ATTHE CENTER OF THE COMPASS ROSE. PLACE AN A * ON THE COMPASS TO INDICATE THE
DIRECTION TO THE PHENOMENON WHEN FIRST SEEN. PLACE A *B° ON THE COMPASS TO INDICATE THE DIRECTION TO
THE PHENOMENON WHEN LAST SEEN.
1
N S
NNW NNE
NW NE
WNW ENE
WSW
SW SE
sSw SSE
7. IN THE SKETCH BELOW, PLACE AN *A* AT THE POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON WHEN FIRST SEEN, AND A *B* AT THE
POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON WHEN LAST SEEN. CONNECT THE *A* AND B° WITH A LINE TO APPROXIMATE THE
MOVEMENT OF THE PHENOMENON BETWEEN *A" AND "B*. THAT IS, SCHEMATICALLY SHOW WHETHER THE MOVEMENT
APPEARED TO BE STRAIGHT, CURVED OR ZIG-ZAG. REFER TO SMALLER SKETCH AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO COMPLETE
THE LARGER SKETCH.
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—
TDPT (UFO)
Yellow
31 0C71963
Dr Donald H Menzel
Harvard College Observatory
60 Garden Street
Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138
Dear Dr Menzel:
Would you please give me your opinion on the attached case. I
honestly don't feel that this case should be unidentified. I am
not at all pleased with bot at alr piedsed wicn ir nynek s lncer Hynek's interview lew Vr witn nls evaluaclon, or with his evaluation.
This is science? This is science?
I've also inclosed a map I've also inclosed a map of the area, however, I would appreciate area, however, I would I appreclate
your returning through. hrough. Thank you.
Sincerely,
HECTOR QUIMTANILLA, Jr, Lt Colonel, USAF HECTOR QUIMTANILLA, Jr, Lt Colonel, USAF 2 Atch 2 Atch
Chief, Aeria Chief, Aeri enomena nomena Branch l. Transcript of Dr Hynek's 1. Transcript of Dr Hynek's
Interview
2. Map of area

AFR 80-17(C1)
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU SAW THE PHENOMENON? (CheCK aPPTOPrinte bIOCkS.)
OUTDOORS IN BUSINESS SECTION OF CITY
IN BUILDING IN RESIDENTIAL SECTION OF CITY
IN CAR 0 AS DRIVER AS PASSENGER X IN OPEN COUNTRYSIDE
IN BOAT NEAR AIRFIELD
IH AIRPLANE AS PILOT 0 AS PASSENGER FLYING OVER CITY
OTHER FLYING OVER OPEN COUNTRY
OTHER
A. IF YOU WERE IN A VEHICLE, COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING:
WHAT DIRECTION WERE YOU MOVING? HOW FAST WERE YOU MOVING?
NORTH EAST
SOUTH WEST DID YOU STOP ANYTIME WHILE OBSERVING THE
PHENOMENON?
NORTHEAST SOUTHEAST
NORTHWEST SOUTHWEST YES NO
EXPLAIN WHETHER SUCH MOVEMENT AFFECTS YOUR SKETCHES IN ITEMS 5 AND 6.
DESCRIBE TYPE OF VEHICLE YOU WERE IN AND TYPE OF ROAD, TERRAIN OR BODY OF WATER YOU TRAVERSED DURING
THE SIGHTING. STATE WHETHER WINDOWS OR CONVERTIBLE TOP WERE UP OR DOWN.
HOW MUCH OTHER TRAFFIC WAS HOW MUCH OTHER TRAFFIC WAS THERE? THERE?
DID YOU NOTICE ANY AIRPLANES? YES NO. IF *YES, DESCRIBE WHEN THEY WERE IN SIGHT RELATIVE TO THE TIME
OF SIGHTING THE PHENOMENON AND WHERE OF SIGHTING THE PHENOMENON AND WHERE THEY WERE IN THE SKY RELATIVE TO THE POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON.
9. HOW LONG WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT? HOW LONG WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT?
LENGTH OF TIME DETIME CERTAIN OF TIME CEPTA OF TUME NOT VERY SURE 2D SIIDE
10 min. FAIRLY CERTAIN JUST A GUESS
HOW WAS TIME DETERMINED?
CLANCNC Ar ACCucK BOTH LEACINE AnD ANTKRINE THE HOUSC.
WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT CONTINUOUSLY? YES NO. IF NO." INDICATE WHETHER THIS IS DUE TO YOUR
MOVEMENT OR THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PHENOMENON, AND DESCRIBE SUCH MOVEMENT OR BEHAVIOR. INDICATE DISAR.
PEARANCES ON PREVIOUS SKETCHES.
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AFR 80-17(C1)
IOPON
TO. IF THERE WERE MORE THAN CNZ PHEHOMENOM, HOW SANY WERN THERE' DRAM A PICTURE TO SHOW HOW THEY WERE
ARRANGED, DID THIS ARRANGEMENT CNANGE DURING THZ SIGNTIHG'
N.A.
11. CoNoiTiOns(Cheek approprlat: blocks.)
A. SKY B. WEATHER
DAY CUMULUS GLOUDS (LOW fiufiY) FOG OR MIST
TWILIGHT CiRRus cLouos (High fleecy or Herring- HEAVY RAIN
NIGHT bone) LIGHT RAIN OR DRIZZLE
CLEAR NIMBUS CLOUDS (RaiN) HAIL
PARTLY CLOUSY CUMULONIMBUS CLOUDS SNOW OR SLEET
COMPLETELY OYERCAST (Thunderstorms) UNKNONN
HAZE OR SMOG NONE OF THE ABOVE
C. IF TNE SIGHTING WAS AT TWILIGHT OR NIGHT, WHAT DIO YOU NOTIGE ABOUT THE STARS C. IF THE SIGHTING WAS AT TWILIGHT OR NIGHT, WHAT DIO YOU NOTICE ABOUT THE STARS AND MOON? AND NOON?
11) STARS (2) (2) MOON
HOME BRIGHT MOONLIGHT BRIGHT MOONLIGHT NO MOONLIGHT
AFEW MOON WITH HALO UNKNOWN UNKHOWN
WANY MANY HOON HIODEN BY CLOUDS
JUNKNOWN IUNKNOWN PARTIAL(New Or quarter) PARTIAL(New or quarter)
O. IF SIGHTING WAS IN DAYLIGHT, WAS THE SUN VISIBLE? IF SIGNTING WAS IN DAYLIGHT, WAS THE SUN VISIBLE7 YES NO. IF "YES," WHERE WAS THE SUN AS YOU FACED WHERE WAS THE SUN AS YOU FACED
THE PHENOMENON?
IN FRONTOF YOU IN FRONT OF YOU TO YOUR RIGHT TO YOUR RIGHT OVERHEAD(NeW nooN) OVERHEAD(NeW nOON)
IIN BACK OF YOU TO YOUR LEFT UNKNOWN
E. SPECIFY THE MAJOR SOURCE OF ILLUMINATION PRESENT DURING THE SIGHTING, SUCH AS THE SUN, HEADLIGHTS OR
STREET LAMP, ETC. FOR TERRESTRIAL ILLUMINATION, SPECIFY DISTANCE TO LIGHT SOURCE.
2e neovs
TO ETGENIND POINT WHENE T CAS STANDING.
12. GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE PHENOMENON, INDICATING WHETHER IT APPEARED DARK OR LIGHT, WHETHER IT
PEFLECTEO LICHT OR WAS SELF-LUMINOUS AND WHAT COLORS YOU NOTICED. DESCRIBE YOUR IMPRESSION OF WHETHER
IT WAS SOLIO OR TRANSPARENT, WHETHER EDGES WERE SHARP OR FUZZY. DESCRIBE THE SHAPE OR INDICATE IF IT
APPEARED AS A POINT OF LIGHT. INDICATE COMPARISONS WITH OTHER OBSERVED OBJECTS, LIKE STARS, A LIGHT OR
OTHER OBJECT IN YOUR FIELD OF VIEW.
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SPIN LIKEA TOP? X
MAKE A NOISE?
FLUTTER OR WOBBLE?
14. WKAT DREW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PHENOMENON?
By cp 1AD FIRST S16NT0 THE OB3ECT BaT CLLA
by psianty WHICH pLSC Iwas asAi REAING
and camg ANd CAmg DaN DasN To FIND Te FIND C7 CUT WIHT HOE THE q47 Hee THR NosSrAVATed NOsSrAVATIOd AUNS A BOUT. THRY EXLRINNO AUNS A BOUT. THRY EXLRNO
WAPT THEY HAD SIEN PriN7:0 OU FN LOC0TN TUM7 IT CAS COS7 BEEN,
I CrCD pREND LOOKONC TOUAAD TtuanD TH07 P02110502 YHE Siy YHR S15y AND AnD in A
THE C1C47 SPARTEN To Thk 21047 S142700 70 080241. 0 080243. M DoAS ASO cH ME DOAI ACCO
A. HOW DID IT
scouy CUKN FADETEN AND SMALLCR. AND SMALLCK.
B. D1O THE ENOMENON MOVE BEHIND OR IN FRONT OF SOMETHING, LIKE A CLOUD, TREE, OR BUILDING AT ANY TIME?
0 YES NO. IF*YES,"DESCRI3E.
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17

AFR 80-17(C1)
15. DRAW A PICTURE THAT WILL SHOW THE SHAPE OF THE PHENOMENON. INCLUDE AND LABEL ANY DETAILS THAT MIGHT
HAVE APPEARED AS WINGS ON PROTRUSIONS, AND INDICATE EXHAUST OR VAPOR TMAILS. INDICATE BY AN ARROW THE
DIRECTION THE PHENOMENON WAS MOVING.
SHAPE
EHENAPPEARiNiG
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SHAPS SHAPE
WHEN WMEN
L SEnMRD SGnMERD
Tc icutK Te HcuEK
16. WHAT WAS THE ANGULAR SIZE? HOLD A MATCH AT ARM'S LENGTH IN FRONT OF A KNOWN OBJECT, SUCH AS A STREET
LAMP OR THE MOCN. NOTE HOW MUCH OF THE OBJECT IS COVERED BY THE HEAD OF THE MATCH. NOW IF YOU HAD
BEEN ABLE TO PERFOPM THIS EXPERIMENT AT THE TIME OF THE SIGHTING, ESTIMATE WHAT FRACTION OF THE
PHENOMENON WOULD HAVE BEEN COVERED BY THE MATCH HEAD.
Y$ WOrLD HBUE SEEN Curmncn 6y THk MATCHIHEOpT STEk.
/
15 PAGE 6 OF 9 PAGES

AFR 80-17(C1)
I7. DID YOU OSSERVE THE PHENOMENON THROUGH ANY OF THE FOLLOWING? INCLUDE INFORMATION ON MODEL,
TYPE. FILTER. LENS PRESCRIPTION OR OTHER APPLICABLE DATA.
NO EYEGLASSES NO CAMERA VIEWER
NO SUNGLASSES NO BINOCULARS
NO WINDSHIELD NO TELESCOPE
40 SIDE WINDOW OF VEHICLE NO THEODOLITE
NO WINDONPANE OTHER
A. DO YOU ORDINARILY WEAR GLASSES? IYES NO B. DO YOU USE READING GLASSES? YES NO
18 WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION OF THE SPEED OF THE 19. WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION OF THE DISTANCE OF THE
PHENOMENON? GIVE ESTIMATE OF SPEEO NOt AuaBE PHENOMENON? GIVE ESTIMATE OF DISTANCE
2O. IN ORDER THAT WE MAY OBTAIN AS CLEAR A PICTURE AS POSSIBLE OF WHAT YOU SAW, DESCRIBE IN YOUR OWN WORDS
A COMMON OBJECT OR OBJECTS WHICH, WHEN PLACED IN THE SKY, SIMILAR TO WHERE YOU NOTED THE PHENOMENON,
WOULD BEAR SOME RESEMBLANCE TO WHAT YOU SAW. DESCRIBE SIMILARITIES AND DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE
COMMON OBJECT AND WHAT YOU SAW.
THE DeEN ON P HA2 CHT;ONCY THEM was re MEONJ THAT NICHT
AND THM MOeN DOkS No TRANSCATE
TEESIT DERIT APPcan DAD DISAIPEN By
•
21. DID YOU NOTICE ANY ODOR, NOISE, OP HEAT EMANATING FROM THE PHENOMENON OR ANY EFFECT ON YOURSELF.
ANIMALS OR MACHINERY IN THE VICINITY? YES NO. IF *YES.DESCRIBE.
Bur I HAVE A SINUS CONDITISN LONICH Sengrime make CDOR 17
DIGFIC-CT. My PAPANTE WIFE NOTICin AN 0002.
IF YES," DESCRIBE.
SAT
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AFR 80-17(C1)
22. HAVA YOU EVER SEEN THIS OR A SLMILAR PHENOMEHON BEFORX7 VE DATE AND
LOCATION.
CIYRS ONO.
A. LIST TMEIR MAMES AND ADDRESSES
YELLEDPLINGS
Orne 45387 9537 45387
OA.e
24. GIVE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF
LAST NAME, FIRST NAME, MIDDLE NAME T
ADDRE State and Zip Code)
Yrecew 45387
number) AGE
22 21 MALE FEMALE FEMALE
AL INFORNATION INCLUOING OCCUPATION AND ANY EXPERIENCE WHICH MAY BE PERTINENT. INFORNATION INCLUOING OCCUPATION AND ANY EXPERIENCE WHICH MAY BE PERTINENT.
SrCPENT AT TAC CNERSIT OP CINCNATIS STUDYENE ARROSSNCE ENCNCAING
WOK AT WORE-SARTIROs M.F.B. /ASNFS-30 WO AT WRE-SARTIROS M.F.B. /ASNES-30 on A codp s0l. co-dp s08.
25. WHEN ANO TO WHOM DID YOJ REPORT THAT YOU HAD SIGHTED THIS PHENOMENON7
NO ONE
NAME MONTH YEAR
26 DATE YOU COMPLETEO THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.
DAY_MONTH Nue YEAR
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AFR 80-17(C1)
27. INFORMATION WHICH YOU FEEL IS PERTINENT BUT WHICH IS NOT ADEQUATELY COVERED IN THIS QUESTIONNAIRE, ALTERNATIVELY PROVIDE A NARRATIVE EXPLANATION OF THE SIGHTING.
.
/
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DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
HEADQUARTERS FOREIGN TECHNOLOGY DIVISION (AF3C)
WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE OH10 43433
REPLY TO 87AUD169
ATTN OF: TDPT (UFO)
SUBJECT: UFO Cbservation , 15 August 1968
TO:
Springs, Ohio 45337
Your name has been given to the Aerial Phenomena Office (Project
Blue Bookas being a witness to an unidentified flying object.
If you were a witness to an UFO sighting on 15 August 1968
would you please complete the attached AF Form 1l7 and return it
in the envelope provided. If If you you were not a witness to this
sighting, would sighting, would you please make a statement to this effect on the you please make a statement to this effect on the
attached form, The information which you provide wi The information which you provide will be used in used in
evalunting this observation. Thank you observation hank you your assistance in this your assis nce in this
matter. matter.
MECTOR QUINTANILLA, Jr, SECTOR QUINTANILLA, Jr, Lt Colonel, USAF Lt Colonel, USAF 1 Atch
Chief, Aeria Chief, Aerial nenomena enomena Office AF Form 117 w/envelope AF Form 117 w/envelope
Aerospace Technologies Division
Production Directorate Proiuction Directorate
2 2

NUMBER 21-2258
A
AS POSSIBLE
ANSWER AI THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE WILL BE USED FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES
YOUR CONNECTION WITH ANY OF YOUR STATEMENTS OR CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT
YOUR RERMISSIGN. RETUI AIR FORCE BASE INVESTIGATOR FOR FORWARDING TO FTI (TDETR), WRIGHT-
PATTERSON AFB, OHIO 45433 N AFR BO-[7, (IF ADDITIONAL SHEETS ARE NEEDED FOR NARRATIVE OR SKETCHES
ATTACH SECURELY TO T RM OR ANNOTATE WITH YOUR NAME FOR IDENTIFICATION.)
1. WHEN DID YOU SEE THE PHENOMENON?
DAY_ 14 1968
MONTH. YEAR
?. WHAT TIME DID o u F RS SI G H T 5 PHENOMENON?
HOUR 12 30 A.M. P.M.
MINUTES
3. WHAT TIME DID YOU LAST SIGH T H E PHENOMENON?
HOUR I MINUTeS 00( A.M. [P.M.
4. TIME ZONE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS STANDARD
EASTERN CENTRAL MOUNTAIN PACIFIC OTHER
5. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU SAW THE PHENOMENON? IF IN CITY. GIVE THE NEAREST STREET ADDRESS AND INDICATE ON
A HANS DRAWN MAP WHERE YOU WERE STANDING WITH REFERENCE TO THE ADDRESS. IF IN THE COUNTRY, IDENTIFY THE
HIGHWAY YOU WERE ON OR NEAR AND TRY TO FIX A DISTANCE AND DIRECTION FROM SOME RECOGNIZABLE LANDMARK.
East Eon Rd.
nio 1. V
7
S. IMAGINE YOU ARE AT THE POINT SHOWN IN THE SKETCH, PLACE AN *A ON THE CURVED LINE TO SHOW HOW HIGH THE
PHENOVENON WAS ABOVE THE HORIZON, OR SKYLINE, WHEN FIRST SEEN. PLACE A B* ON THE SAME CURVED LINE TO
SHON HOH HIGH ABOVE THE HORIZON THE PHENOMENON WAS WHEN LAST SEEN.
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AF FORM 117
AUC67
23

AFR 80-17(C1)
SA. NOM IMAGINE YOU ARE AT THE CENTNR ON THE COMPARD NOSE. PLAGE AN "A° ON THE COMPASS TO INDICATE THE
DIRECTION TO THE PHENOMENON WNEH FIAST SEEN. PLACE A "U ON THE COMPASS TO INOICATE THE DIRECTION TO
-THE PNENOMIHCN WMEM LAST SEEN.
NNW NN
NW NE
B
WNW ENE
W5W ESE
SE
SSW SSE
7 IN THE SKETCH BELOW, PLACE AN A" AY THE POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON WHEN FIRST SEEN, AND A O"AT THE
POSITION OF THE PHEMOMENON WMEN LAST SEEN. CONNECT THE *A* AND "B* WITH A LINE TO APPROXIMATE THE
MOVEMENT OF THE PHENOMENON SETWEEN 'A* AND "B, THAT IS, SCHEMATICALLY SHOW WHETHER THE MOVEMENT
APPEAREO TO SE STRAIGHT, CURVED OR ZIG-ZAG. REFER TO SMALLER SKETCH AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO COMPLETE
THE LARGER SKEYCH.
CTAARL
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(This is a question designed to show whether or not she i might be
nare of her optometrist or optical shop? Can she give you the
rrection she has? Horstat innortant. But
near the horizon to give the illusion of a ' "dog fight. " By the same
token, he has never been happy, apparently, about such phenomena
as sundogs and associate It would be interesting for

AFR 80-17(C1)
8. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU SAW THE PHENOMENON? (CheCK aPPrOPTiate blOCKS.)
X OUTDOORS IN BUSINESS SECTION OF CITY
IN BUILDING IN RESIDENTIAL SECTION OF CITY
X IN CAR XXAS DRIVER AS PASSENGER X IN OPEN COUNTRYSIDE
IN SOAT NEAR AIRFIELD
IN AIRPLANS AS PILOT AS PASSENGER FLYING OVER CITY
OTHER X FLYING OVER OPEN COUNTRY
OTHER
IF YOU WERE IN A VEHICLE, COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING:
WHAT DIRECTION WERE YOU MOVING? HOW FAST WERE YOU MOVING?
NORTH 40 MPH
EAST
SOUTH WEST DID YOU STOP ANYTIME WHILE OBSERVING THE
PHENOMENON?
NORTHEAST SOUTHEAST
NORTHWEST SOUTHWEST YES 0No
EXPLAIN WH EMENT AFFECTS ETCHES IN ITEMS 5 AND 6.
Yes, I 990m ad shoke bofore moved upward.
DESCRIBE TYPE OF VEHICLE YOU WERE IN AND TYPE OF ROAD. TERRAIN OR BODY OF WATER YOU TRAVERSED DURING
THE SIGHTING. STATE WHETHER WINDOWS OR CONVERTIBLE TOP WERE UP OR DOWN.
Smal eports s cr - I car d own
Asphelt
HOW.MUCH HOW.MUCH OTHER TRAFFIC TRAF WAS THERE?
Nons Nons
DIO YOU NOTICE ANY AIRPLANES?  YES DIC YOU NOTICE ANY AIRPLANES? YES NO. IF YES, DESCRIBE WHEN THEY WERE IN SIGHT RELATIVE TO THE TIME NO. IF *YES, DESCRIBE WHEN THEY WERE IN SIGHT RELATIVE TO THE TIME
OF SIGHTING THE PHENOMENON AND WHERE THEY WERE IN THE SKY RELATIVE TO THE POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON. OF SIGHTING THE PHENOMENON AND WHERE THEY WERE IN RELATIVE TO THE POSITION OF THE PHENOMENON.
Sometbne sfter the ahowing there wes . Sometbme sfter the ahowing there WS large tranaport. larga t trenaport.
9. HOW LONG WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT?
LENGTH OF TIME X CERTAIN OF TIME NOT VERY SURE
balr hour FAIRLY CERTAIN JUST A GUESS
HOW WAS TIME DETERMINED?
Bv two clocks and threa watchen
WAS THE PHENOMENON IN SIGHT CONTINUOUSLY? YES NO. IF NO." INOICATE WHETHER THIS IS DUE TO YOUR
MOVEMENT OR THE SEHAVIOR OF THE PHENOMENON, AND DESCRIBE SUCH MOVEMENT OR BEHAVIOR. INDICATE DISAP.
PEARANCES ON PREVIOUS SKETCHES.
AlL but five misutee.It waS 1n n complote viaion.
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TO. IF THERE WERE MORE TMAN ONE PHENOMHNON, HOW MANY WERE THERE' DRAW A PIGTURE TO SHOW HOW THEY WERE
ARRANGED. DID TMIS ARRANGENINT CHANGE DURING THE SIGHTING?
Just ono.
11. ConoiTions(Check aopropriate blocks.)
A. SXY B. WEATHER
OAY CUMULUS CLOUDS (LOW (lffy) FOG OR MIST
TWILIGHT Cipnus CLouDs (High fleecy or Herring- HEAVY RAIN
X MIGHT bone) LIGHT RAIN OR DRIZZLE
CLEAR NIMAuS clouDS (Roin) HAIL
PARTLY CLOUOY CUMULONINBUS CLOUDS SNOW OR SLEET
COMPLETELY OVERCAST (Thunderstorms) X UNKNOAN
HAZE OR SMOG NONE OF THE ABOVE
CIFTHE C. IF THE SIGNTING WAS AT TWILIGHT OR NIGNT, WHAT DID YOU NOTICE ABOUT THE STARS AND MOON?
(1) STARS STARS (2) MOON
HONE BRIGHT MOONLIGHT NO MOONLIGHT
X A FEW MOON WITH HALO UNKNOWN
MANY MANY MOON HIODEN BY CLOUDS
IUNKHONH PARTIAL(NeWOr quarter) PARTIaL(New Or quarter)
O. IF SIGATING NAS IN DAYLIGHT, WAS THE SUN VISIBLE? O. IF SIGHTING NAS IN DAYLIGHT, WAS THE SUN VISIBLE? CYES NO. IF *YES, * WHERE WAS THE SUN AS YOU FACED 1F PYES, * WHERE WAS THE SUN AS YOU FACED
THE PHENONENON? THE PHENONENON?
IN FRONT OF YOU TO YOUR RIGHT OVERHEAD (Near nOo) OVERHEAD(Near nOoN)
IN BAGK OF YOU TO YOUR LEFT UNKNOWN
E. SPECIFY THE MAJOR SOURCE OF ILLUMINATION PRESENT DURING THE SICHTING, SUCH AS THE SUN, HEADLIGHTS OR E. SPECIFY THE MAJOR SOURCE OF ILLUMINATION PRESENY DURING THE SICHTING, SUCH AS THE SUN, HEADLIGHTS OR
STREET LAMP, ETC. FOR TERRESTRIAL ILLUMINATION, SPECIFY DISTANCE TO LIGHT SOURCE.
Headlights
12. GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE PHENOMEHON. INDICATING WHETHER IT APPEARED DARK OR LIGHT, WHETHER IT
REFLECTEO LIGHT OR WAS SELF-LUMINOUS AND WHAT COLORS YOU NOTICED. DESCRIBE YOUR IMPRESSION OF WHETHER
IT NAS SOLIO OR TRANSPARENT, WHETHER EDGES WERE SHARP OR FUZZY. OESCRIBE THE SHAPE OR INDICATE IF IT
APPEAREO AS A POINT OF LIGHT. INDICATE COMPARIGONS WITH OTHER OSSERVED OBJECTS, LIKE STARS, A LIGHT OR
OTHER OBIEOT IN YOUR FIELD OF VIEW.
It apperred light, Aluninbua. Yellow, gold and white
in calor. I believe it weg solid edgee boing aharp.
Compsrfaon moybe to s larre moon.(at one time)
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DISAPPEAR AND REAPPEAR?
SPIN LIKE A TOP?
MAKE A NOISE?
FLUTTER OR WOBBLE?
14. WHAT JR ATTENTION TO THE PHENOMENON?
The moving light in the darkness.
.
A. HOW DID IT FINALLY DISAPPEAR?
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Saonod to get Saoned to get amallar. 90a llsr.
B. DID THE PENOMENON MOVE BEHIND OR IN FRONT OF SOMETHING, LIKE A CLOUD, TREE, OR BUILDING AT ANY TIME?
0 YES D NO. IF *YES,"DESCRIBE.
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16. WNAT WAS THE ANGULAR SIZE? MOLD A MATCH AT ARM'S LENGTH IN FRONT OF A KHOWN OBJECT, SUCH AS A STREET
LAMP OR THE MOON. NOTE HOW MUCH OF THE OBJECT IS COVEREO BY THE HEAD OF THE MATCH. NOW IF YOU HAD
BEEN ABLE TO PERFORM THIS EXPERIMENT AT THE TIME OF THE SIGHTING, ESTIMATE WHAT FRACTION OF THE
PHENOMENON YCULD HAVE BEEN COVERED BY THE MATCH HEAD.
A6nt
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17 DID YOU OBSERVE THE PHENOMENON THROUGH ANY OF THE FOLLOWINC' INCLUDE INFORMATION ON MODEL,
ay TYPE, FILTER. LENS PRESCRIPTION OR OTHER APPLICABLE DATA.
EYEGLASSES CAMERA VIEWER
SUNGLASSES BINOCULARS
X WINDSHIELD TELESCOPE
SIDE WINDOW OF VEHICLE THEODOLITE
WINDONPANE X OTHER CONTACTS
A. YES INO B. DO YOU USE READING GLASSES? YES XO
19. WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION OF THE DISTANCE °OLOSE
PHENOMENON? GIVE ESTIMATE OF SPEED PHENOMENON? GIVE ESTIMATE OF DISTANCE
2O. IN ORDER THAT WE MAY OBTAIN AS CLEAR A PICTURE AS POSSIBLE OF WHAT YOU SAW, DESCRIBE IN YOUR OWN WORDS
A COMMON OBJECT OR OBJECTS WHICH, WHEN PLACED IN THE SKY, SIMILAR TO WHERE YOU NOTED THE PHENOMENON.
WOULD BEAR SOME RESEMBLANCE TO WHAT YOU SAW. DESCRIBE SIMILARITIES AND DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE
COMMON OBJECT AND WHAT YOU SAW.
SOMANHAT LIKE THE MOON, THEN SOLEWHAT LIK GI $ OF A PIE.
21. DID YOU NOTICE ANY ODOR, NOISE. OR HEATEMANATIN A THE PHENOMENON OR ANY EFFECT ON YOURSELF.
ANIMALS OR MACHINERY IN T TYES NO. IF YES° DESCRIBE.
The oder wes, sccoriing to worked at W.P.A.F.B.
during W.w. II in toatins plsng'enginss, quite noticeable.
LiE rman planss fuel aft urn a.
Noise W3 2 groaning nature.
A. DID THE PHENOMENON DISTURB T HE GROUND OR LEAVEANY PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. IYES NO.
IF *YES."DESCRIBE.
T
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22. NAVC YOU EVEA SNXN THIS OR A SIMILAN PNIMOMIN NaRPOARY vE
LOCATION.
*
23. WAS ANYONE WITW YOU AT THE TIMG YOU SAW THE PHENOMENONT YES NO. IF *"YES," DID THEY SEE IT TOO
YES NO.
A. LIST THEIR NAWES AND ADDRESSES
FAIRFIELD PK.
24. GIVE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF
LAST NAME, FIRST NAME, MIODLE NAME
ADOREss (Street, Chty, State and Zip Code)
BOX 437 YELLOW SPRINGS, OHIO FAIRFIELD PK.
TELEPHON AGE
21 21 MALE X X FEMALE
INDICATE ADDITIONALINFORNATION INCLUDING OCCUPATION AND ANY INDICATE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION INCLUDING 3 occu ANO AMY EXPERIENCE WHICH MAY BE PERTINENT. EXPEAIENCE WHICH MAY BE PERTINENT.
PHOTO AND X#RAY TECHNROIAN TECHNRCIAN
(MY3EIF) (MY3EIF)
LAW STUDENT LAW STUDENT
AEROSPACE ENGINEER AT W. .A.F.S. (HAROLD FOGG)
25. WHEN AND TO PHCN DID YOU REPORT THAT YOU HAD SIGHTED THIS PHENOMEHON?
NAME DAYI MONTH YEAR
28. DATE YOU COMPLETEO THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.
MONTH_ YEAR 1963
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27. INFORNATION WHICH YOU FEEL IS PERTINENT BUT WNICH IB NOT ADEQUATELY COVERED IN THIS QUESTIONNAIRE, ALTERMATIVELY PROVIDE A NARRATIVE EXPLANATIOH OF THE SIGHTING.
July sod ot 110ly
whon it movod. Mde a dirfinate sound, and odor.
C
VUO
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TDPT (UPO) m
15 AUG 1963
45387
Reference telephone conversation with 2d Lt Marano on
15 August 1968 regarding your unidentified flying object (uro)
observation. We would appreciate it if you and your husband
would complete the inclosed AF Forms ll7 and return them in
the envelope provided Thank you for report. observa-
tion to the clbn cd the Alr rorce. Force
HECTOR QUENTANILLA, Jr, Lt Colonel, USAF HECTOR QUENTANILLA, Jr, Lt Colonel, USAF 1 Atch
Chief, Aeria Chief, Aerial nenomena enomena Office AF Form 117 w/envelope
Aerospace Technologies Division
Production Directorate
2
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NEVER.E FOR APPROVALS, DISAPPROVALS, ACTION
MEMO ROUTING SLIP CONCURRENCES, OR SIMILAR ACTIONS
1 TO INITIALS CIRCULATE
TOPTR/UFO DATE COORDINATION
2 FILE
INFORMATION
3 NOTE AND
RETURN
PER CON-
VERSATION
4 SEE ME
WEATHER DATA FOE
WPAFB-0030L,15AUG68 SIGNATURE
REMARKS
0058L 8 CLEAR 7 67/64/0000
Rmk58 E.
Upper data no
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FROM DATE
19l2ng6.8
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DD9 Replaces DD Form 94, 1 Feb 50 and DD Form 95,
1 Feb 50 which will be used until exhausted. AFSC-AAFB-WASH.D.C. 1967
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MEMO FOR THE RECORD 23 SEPTEMBER 1968
Subj: UFO Observation, 15 August 1968
at c030 hours, EDT.
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data and see if we can't get rid of a few more.
which leaves
I think that my analysis, however, is probably correct. I shall keep
watching for a repetition.
Cordially yours,
Nonaes
DHM/db DHM/db Donald H. Menzel Donald H. Menzel
Encls. Encls.

MEMO FOR THE RECORD 23 SEPTEMBER 1963
Called DaleaDarns\(Aerial Advertizer) Mr. Barns said that his plane
last night
15rng Department 7-7206, Geraldine Swisshelm
No complaints.
UFO sighting 15 August 1968, 0030 hrs
1 Green Co Sheriffs Office, 372-410l
Mr. McKee, Nothing Mr. McKee, Nothing in log.
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I would completely agree further with your statement
into an adjective. And I am pleased that you recognize he validity .
-
data." For most of the true unknowns
improved by the suggesti ons of mine that they did not accept, is still
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Air Force still apparently lists it either as'probable balloon" or "unknown. "
an initial stimulus, but the planet Jupiter was undoubtedly the force of
the "dog fight. "
space, 1
satisfaction the defeat of Congressman
Roush for re-election.
I don't know that you have seen my Martians, clearly in-
habitants of the UFOs. I am sending a few of them to you. I hope you
and your wife enjoy them. ith the Seasons Greetings, I am
Cordially yo
Nonaed.
DHM:md Donald H. Menzel
Enclosure

This would have been
crepancy. Who was the second person, who claimed the later time? Did
Ardene really remember correctly?
From the very start, Hynek starts talking about "the moon
moon is chasing him. I remember, as a child, getting this sensation when
I was traveling in a train or an automobile.
This case clearly exemplifies one of my major criticisms of
I sent in my suggested revisions. I want to know what the conditions sare

consistent with the moon. Again, with her insistance on gyration, I think
what she said earlier, something like a plate. Now she changes her
impression and says that it looked like a quarter of a pie. Why didn't
Hynek question her on this point? When, for example, did it change