PROJECT BLUE BOOK

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PROJECT 10073 RECORD
1. DATE · TIME GROUP 2. LOCATION
30 July 65 30/06152 Watauga, S.D.
3. SOURCE 10. CONCLUSION
Civilian Astro(STARS/PLANETS)
4. NUMBER OF OBJECTS 4. NUMBER OF OBJECTS
Two
5. LENGTH OF OBSERVATION 11. BRIEF SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS
Over 1 Hour Objects sppeared as round white lights like stars. Objects sppeared as round white lights like stars. One in the
north and one in the NE. Objects moved up and down Objects moved up and down left and r left and r
6. TYPE OF OBSERVATION 6. TYPE OF OBSERVATION right and all over but remained in the general right and all over but remained in the general area. area. Objects
Ground-Visual were in sight for over an hour.
7. COURSE
Erratic-All Directions
8. PHOTOS
Yes
No
. PHYSICAL IDENCE
Yes 1
No 4 Witnesses
FORM
FTD SEP 63 0-329 (TDE) Previous editions of this form may be used.

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U.S. AIR FORCE TECHNICAL INFORMATION
This questionnaire has been prepared so that you can give the U.S. Air Force as much
information as possible concerning the unidentified aerial phenomenon that you have observed.
Plecse try to answer as any questions as you possibly can. The information that you give will
be used for research urposes. Your name will not be used in connection with any statements,
conclusions, or publications without your permission. We request this personal information so
that if it is deemed necessary, we may contact you for further details.
1. When did you see the object? Time of day: 2, Iime of day: 00 15
I. When did you see the object? Hour Hour
Minutes
30 July July 1965 1965 (Circle One): (Circle One): A.M. or P.M.
Dey Month Month Year
3. Time Zone:
(Circle One): a. (Circle One): a. Eastern Eastern (Circle One): a. Daylight Saving (Circle One): a. Daylight Saving
b. Central b. Standard b. Standard
c. Mountain
d. Pacific
e. Other
4. Where were you when you saw the object?
Watauga South Dakota
Necrest Postal Address City or Town State or County
.How long was object in sight? (Total Duration) at least one
Hours. Minutes Seconds
a. Certain c. Not very sure
b. Fairly certain d.Just a guess
5.1 How wes time in sight determined? We stopped for one half hour and kept them in sight
while driving about 40 miles
5.2 Was object in sight continuously? YesX No-
What was the condition of the sky? 6. What was the condition of the sky?
DAY NIGHT NIGHT
a. Bright a. Bright-Except for a light cloud on the a. Bright -Except for a light cloud on the
Cloudy b. Cloudy northern horizon.
IF you saw the object during DAYLIGHT, where was the SUN located as you looked at the object? 7.IF you saw the object during DAYLIGHT, where was the SUN located as you looked at the object?
(Circle Ono): : a. In front of you d. To your left
b. In back of you . Overhead
c. To your right f. Don't romember
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FTD FORM
OCT 62 164 Thie form supersedes FTD 164, Jul 61, which is obsolete.

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8IF you saw the object at NIGHT, what did you notice concerning the STARS and MOON?
8.1 STARS (Circle One): 8.2 MOON (Circle One):
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a. None a. Bright moonlight
b. A few b. Dull moonlight
c. Many c. No moonlight - pitch dark
d. Don't remember d.Don't remember
. What were the weather conditions at the time you saw the object?
CLOUDS (Circle One): WEATHER (Circle One):
6. Clear sky Lexcept a. Clear sky. except a. Dry a. Dry
b. Hazy b. Hazy b. Fog, mist, or light rain b. Fog, mist, or light rain
c. Scattered clouds on nor thern horizor. Moderate or heavy rain c. Scattered clouds on nor thern horizort. Moderate or heavy rain
d. d. Thick or heavy clouds d. Snow d. Snow
.Don't remember Don't remember
10. The object oppeared: (Circle One): 10. The object oppeared: (Circle One):
a. Solid o. Solid d.As a light
b. Transparent e. Don't remember
c. Vapor
if it appeared as a light, was it brighter than the brightest stars? (Circle One):
a. Brighter c. About the same
b. Dimmer d. Don't know
reason we feel it was brighter than stars is
11.1 Compare brightness to some common object: because the objects were visible through a
tinted windshield when the dome light was on in the car and all stars were blanked out
under these conditions. Some comoarison could be made to a mercury yard Iight except
the color was not as blue.
12.The edges of the object were:
(Circle One): a. Fuzzy or blurred e. Other .
b. Like a bright star
c. Sharply outlined
d. Don't remember Temenge.
Did the object: . Did the object: (Circle One for each question) (Circle One for each question)
a. Appear to stand still at any time? Yes No. No. Don't know Don't know
b. Suddenly speed up and rush away at any time? Suddenly spesd up and rush away at any time? Yos Yes No No Don't know
c. c. Break up into parts or explode? Yes No Don't know
d. Give off smoke? Yes No Don't know Don't know
. Change brightness? Change brightness? Yes No Don't know Don't know
f. f. Change shape? Yes No Don't know
g. Flash or flicker? Yes No Don't know
h. Disappear and reappear? one of the objects (Yes No Don't know
was not sighted for a.short period and only one object was kept in sight
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. Did the object disappear while you were watching it? If so, how? One of the objects seemed to
disappear into a light cloud on the northern horizon for a short period while we
were parked a watching. We lost sight of one object after we started driving
and finally lost sight of the other object after we passed Raleigh, North Dakota
but mainly because we were tired and didn't make an attempt to keep it in sight.
1.Did the object move behind something at any time, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): Yes) No Don't Know. IF you answered YES, then tell what
it moved behind: As noted before one object appeared to move into a cloud bank
for a short period of time.
Did the object move in front of something at any time, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): (Yes No Don't Know. IF you answered YES, then tell what
in front of: _ One object could be seen again after having been in a cloud bank.
17.  Tell in a few words the following things about the object:
of the object that you saw such as wings, protrusions, etc., and especiatly exhaust trails or vapor trails. -
Place an arrew beside the drawing to show the direction the object was moving. The objects were round Place cn arrow beside the drawing to show the direction the object was moving. The objects were round
balls of light - moved straight up, straight down, to the northwest, southeast and
finally the one cbject remaining appeared to be travelling in a northeast direction. finally the one object remaining appeared to be travelling in a northeast direction.
On a number of occasions both objects hovered without any movement for several mimutes. On a number of occasions both objects hovered without any movement for several mimutes.
On one occasion while we were parked and watching the objects moved in on each other
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20. Do you think you can estimate the speed of the objoct? Speed varied but seemed to move faster
(Circle One) when rising or descending.
Yes No
IF you answered YES, then what speed would you estimate?
2l. Do you think yoy can estimate how for away from you the object was? But jud ging from the distance
we travelled when they were first sighted to
(Circle One) Yes (No) where the one object passed over us while we
were travelling north, I would guess that when first sighted they were about I5 miles
2. Where were you located when you saw the object? 2. Where were you located when you saw the object? Were you (Circle One) 3. Were you (Circle One)
(Circle One):
a. In the business section of a city? a.In the business section of a city?
a.Inside a building a. Inside a building b. In the residential section of a city?
b. In a car c. In open countryside?
c. Outdoors pise Cor ov pseCorov- E: THE EAR EAR d.Near an airfield? d. Near an airfield?
TUWATLH TU WADLH
d. In an airpiane (type) e. e. .Flying over a city? Flying over a city?
. At sea . At seg f. Flying over open country? f. Flying over open country?
f. Other - g. Other
2. IF you were MOVING IN AN AUTOMOBILE or other vehicle at the tims, then complete the following questions:
24.1 What direction were you moving? (Circle One)
when lost when first
0. Nortrom sight c. East sighted . South g. Wost
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
24.3 Did you stop at any time while you were looking at the object?
(Circls One) Yes No
2Did you observe the object through any of the following?
a. Eyeglasses a. Eyeglasses Yes Yes No No e. e. Binoculars Binoculars Yes
b. Sun glasses Yes Yes No f. Telescope Telescope No
c. Windshield Yes No g. Theodolite Yes
d. Window giass d. Window glass Yes No No h. Other
In order that you can give as cloar a picture as possible of what you saw, describe in your own words a common 2.In order that you can give as cloar a picture as possible of what you saw, describe in your own words a common
object or objects which, when placed up in the sky, would give the same appearance as the object which you saw.
There was no structure visible to the object. Other objects which we have seen are There was no structure visible to the object. Other objects which we have seen are
listed on the last page.
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2. In the following sketch, imagine that you are at the point shown. Place an "A" on the curved line to show how
high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you first saw it. Place a "B" on the same curved line to
show how high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you last saw it. Place an "A" on the compass
when you first saw it. Place a "B"" on the compass where you last saw the object.
90% 75°
60 C
NW
30°
E
15°A 15°A
SW S6
2. Draw a picture that will show the motion that the object or objects made. Place an "A" at the beginning of the
path, a "g" at the end of the path, and show any changes in direction during the course.
This would be difficult to sketch as the objects moved in so many directions.
Previously explained in 19.
Draw a pictyre of how they were arranged, and put an arrow to show the direction that they were traveling.
various positions and movements but when first sighted they were positioned
as follows: as follows:
I believe the higher object was the one we kept in sight the longest.
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30. Have you ever seen this, or a similar object before. If so give date or dates and location.
We have seen the Echo satellite from our former home in Fremont, Calif. about 196l
We have also seen other objects since, I will explain these under item 35.
Was anyone sise with you at the time you saw the object? (Circle One) Yes No
31.1 IF you answered YES, did they see the object too? (Circle One) Yes No
31.2 Please list their names and addresses:
RIA wife
- my daughter aged 12 at the tinme aughter aged 12 at the time
My daughter My daughter was the first to was e first to sight the object while we were driving. sight the object while we were driving.
32. Please give the following information about yourself: 32. Please give the following information about yourself:
NAME
Last Name First Name Middle Name
ADDRESS Bismarck N. Dak. 58501
Street City Zone State
TELEPHONE NUMBER AGE 45 SEX Male
at the time
Indicate any additional information about yourself, including any special experience, which might be pertinent.
I am a retired Aviation Ordnance Chief, U. vears service, have
spent a During
this period of time I feel we learned to distinguish objects that would be difficult
interviewer for the North Dakota State Employment Service since ll/27/6l.
To pfficials at Air Force To officials at Air Force
33. When and to whom did you report that you had seen the object? 3.When and to whom did you report that you had seen the object? Detachment 10, 1lth RBS, Bismarck, Detachment 10. 1lth RBs. Bisnarck.
1 August 1965 N. Dek. who forwarded my first
Day Month Year report to an officer et the Minot
Air Force Base, N. Dak.

seemed to make a pass at each other, it appeared that they came within l00o feet
of each other.
On about five occasions during the months of August and September 1965, my family
and I have sighted similar objects travelling at a set rate of speed from south
to North and east to west from our
occasions we routed the neighbors w also sighted the objects. On one occasion
I called the Target Radar Base manned by the Air Force north of Bismarck and I I called the Target Radar Base manned by the Air Force north of Bismarck and I
believe one of the men on duty sighted the same object but informed me that they
did not have equipment to pick the object up on radar. I did not record dates did not have equipment to pick the object up on radar. I did not record dates
out of sight in a short time. I am certain that none of these objects were out of sisht in a short time. I am certain that none of these objects were
aircraft or balloons. All were sighted at night. I believe the objects of this
bly lower than those sighted during the following months.
NOTE: J. Allen Hynek has requested additional information from me, if it is
not common practice, would appreciate it if you would forward this report to
him as the answers I have given him are rather brief. I understand that Mr.
Hynek is the Scientific Consultant for the Air Force's project Bluebook.