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NUMBER OF OBJECTS
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TYPE OF OBSERVATION

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HEADQUARTERS

3560TH PILOT TRAINING WING (ATC)
UNITED STATES AiR FORCE
Webb Air Force Base, Texas

AB-PLANS hk March 1965

UFO Investigation

AFSC (FTD)
Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio 45433

1. Im accordance with paragraph 13b, AFR 200-2 and based on a UFO
report submitted by Captain Brown and Lt Marsden (Attachment 1) the
following data and information is forwarded.

a. Captain Brown is a T-38 Instructor Pilot, age 28, and holds
a B.A. Degree. His occupation involves both observation and technical
knowledge. Further, Captain Brown has 2,200 hours of flying time;
1,500 hours of which was flown in the Webb AFB area.

b. Lt Marsden is a student pilot, age 24, and holds a B.B.A.
Degree. Observation and technical knowledge are involved in his
training. Lt Marsden has over 200 hours of flying time and all 200
hours were flown at Webb AFB, Texas.

2. The basic description of the object given by the two officers
was a bright blinking white light, round in shape. This object was
approximately the size of a dime held at arms length. Only one
object was reported by the observers; therefore, no formation was
noted. There were no other pertinent features described by Lt
Marsden and Captain Brown in their report.

3. The object was first noticed by Lt Marsden who immediately
called Captain Brown's attention to it. Both pilots agree on the
location and course of the object which is as follows:

a. The object was seen at 11 o'clock (relative position) and
at an angle of 10° elevation relative to the position of the aircraft
which was approximately 42 NM southeast of Webb AFB. The object was
on an east to west course which appeared to be north of Webb.

b. When the light was first noted, it was stationary and a
blinking was seen. However, when the pilot tried to move closer,
in omler to investigate, the opdject accelerated off in a northwesterly
direction at a high rate of speed. The light diminished as the plane
turned toward it and was out of sight in 3 to 4 seconds.

ec. The total length of time that the light was visible was not
more than three minutes.

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4, The manner of observation was air-visual. Both observers were in

a T-38 aircraft (Serial No. 610818) at an altitude of 22,500 feet.

The heading was northerly from San Angelo (70NM southeast of Big Spring).
The speed of the aircraft at the time of the sighting was .8 mach and
during pursuit of the object, speed increased to .95 mach.

5. The date and time of the sighting was 0120Z, 25 February 1965 and
the lighting condition at this time was described as night.

6. The following is personal data on the observers.

a. Captain Brown, Wilber
59639A
3561st Pilot Training Squadron
3561lst Pilot Training Wing

b. 2/Lt Marsden, John R.
A03130844
3561st Student Squadron
3561st Pilot Training Wing

c. Both pilots are considered to be reliable.

7. Both pilots reported the sky was hazy up to about 14,000 feet;
above 15,000 feet the sky was clear and visibility unlimited. At
22,500 feet the observers visibility was unimpaired (i.e. no thunder
storms, unlimited ceiling, etc.)

a. The weather bureau's report of weather at the time was clear,
with upper wind information as follows;

6,000 3h0° = s:30K
10 ,000 330° LOK
16 ,000 3109 55K
20 ,000 300° 50K
30 ,000 2902s 65K
39 ,000 270~ 75K

8. Checking possible sources and/or causes of the reported phenomena

failed to identify it as emanating from known aircraft traffic.

a. The local civilian authorities were contacted, but there was

no reported aircraft traffic in the area of the sighting at 01°02,

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b. The TFX Test Center at Fort Worth reported there were no tests
or unusual aircraft flying at the time of the sighting.

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ec. An interview was held with the Chief Observer at the Sweet-
water Air Force Station but he had neither heard of the reported object
nor had any such object been seen on the radar equipment. This Air
Force Station contacted other neighboring GCI units and it's Head-
quarters in Oklahoma City. There was no unusual activity logged by
any of these organizations.

d. Civil and federal weather stations throughout the area reported
there were no weather balloons aloft at the time of the sighting.

9. No explanation can be given concerning this UFO on the basis of
information received during the course of the investigation.

10. Attachment 1 is the report submitted by the two observers.

FOR THE COMMANDER

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Major, USAF UFO Observers Statement
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On the night of 24 February 1965, Captain Brown and myself took off on |
a night transition mission from Webb AFB, Big Spring, Texas in a T-38
basic trainer, at 1900 hours. We climbed to 22,500 feet and proceeded
to San Angelo, Texas, then turned north to Colorado City, Texas. Our

position relative to Webb AFB was approximately 42 NM southeast. At
approximately 1920 hours at an altitude of 22,500 feet, traveling at

approximately .8 Mach, I sighted a round, white light at the 11 O'clock
position at an angle of approximately 10 degrees elevation. The object
radiated a white light of high intensity and appeared to be about the
size of a dime. It was traveling on an east-to-west course and appeared
north of Webb AFB. I called the light to Captain Brown's attention and
as we watched it, it blinked on and off approximately 3 times. Each time

it blinked off, the light was out for approximately 4 or 5 seconds and

at that time no object could be seen in that position. We turned our
aircraft and headed toward it accelerating to approximately .95 Mach.

The position of the object in relation to us remained constant for 1 or
2 seconds. Then the object accelerated off at a very high rate of speed
on a north-westerly direction. It gradually diminished in intensity and
was completely out of sight in approximately 3 or 4 seconds. No discern-
ible features could be observed of objects other than the intense

white light. Total time of observation from first sighting until it

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1, KC+135 from Schilling EASTBOUND to Jolly Soy pete ene Area, This A/O was
just East of the Texaco VOR at the reported time of sighting.
2, A 352 from Walker AF was returning from a simulated bond drop on Dallas

Texas. This drop was made at O100Z, The return would place the A/C 4&5 mi Nw of
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Piz Springs at 01202. This 2-52 was WSSTSOUND and landed at Walker at O240Z

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