DECLASSIFIEDUSAF PROJECT BLUE BOOK · NARA T-1206
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE
PROJECT BLUE BOOK
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT CASE FILES · 1947 – 1969
CASE REFERENCE8695661
DATE OF SIGHTINGNovember 1961
REPORTED LOCATIONDel Mar California
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PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD
1. DATE 2 LOCATION 12. CONCLUSIONS
D Wos Bolloon
2-11 Nov 61 Del Mar, California 0 Probably Balloon
14 TYPE OF OBSERVATION 0 Possibly Balloon
3. DATE-TIME GROUP
Local Ground-Visual Ground-Rodor 0 Was Aircraft
0 Probobly Aircraft
GMT. Air-Visual Air-Intercept Radar Possibly Aircraft
5. PHOTOS 16. SOURCE 0 Was Astronomicol McTeOls
Y.s Ex Probably Astronomicol
CO:No Civilian 0 Possibly Astronomical
|8. 9. COURSE Other Naute GUNFILE.
7. LENGTH OF OBSERVATION Insufficient Data for Evaluation
600 Unknown
aprox 3 sec l ea time Descending
T0. BRIEF SUMMARY OF SIGHTING Objts reported by witnesins comments were definitely not caused by
reentry of any known satellites. Major witness ndicates that signatures are those of a
missile reentry, however they are closer to mat hing meteors meteors that missiles. Witness
suggests that Isuggests that these were these were practice practice shots fm some uninown source. If this theory is accepted shots fm some uninown source. If this theory is accepted
then it would be then it would necessary to locate firing sitd of short which appeared to come fm within
North America continent. Present info concerning North America contir nt. Present infc oncerning capabilities of other countries capabilities of other countries indicate indicate
that no weapon could have been fired along thesq that no weapon could have been fired along thesq azimuths which could reach San Diego un- azimuths which could reach San Diego un-
less it was fired fm within our continent. Therd were several meteor showers which occurred
during period of this sighting. It is concluded that these meteors plus an occasional
sporadie fireball probably accounts for sightings. ADdioNte ANserSIS INDICHTES JAAT
SoMc or ToE VeRticte OBSECTS tesr be Fon Dovee Genrer
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39. Do you think you can estimate the speed of the object?
(Circle One) 'Yes No 20.-30 siles
IF you answered hat speed would you estimate? 20,000 Lec
II ject was?
(Circle One) Yes No 20-30 miles high.
IF you answered YES, then how far away would you say it was?.
41. Please give the following information.about yourself:
NAME Last Name First Name Middl Name
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ADDRESS Street City Zone State
:
TELEPHONE NUMBER TELEPHONE NUMBER
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Ago Sex
Indicate any additional information about yourself, including any education, which might.be pertinent.
42. Date you completed this questionnaire:
:Day Month Year
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further details. AND BACK OF PAGES E% 9, TIIS FORM,
9 NoU.61
1. When did you see the object? 2.Time of day: 2000-2100
a. 4,6,7 '61 Hour Minutes
b.
Month Yoorr (Circle One): A.M. or P.M.
Zone: Zone: (Circle One): a.
(Circle One): a. Eastern (Circle One): a. Daylight Saving
b. Central b. b. Standard Standard
c. Mountain
d. Pacific Pacific
e. Other
4. Where were you when you saw the object? Where were you when you sow the G. CO object?
G. EONVAR- 6CAUTPOL TOUER AIRPORT AIRPORT SAXI SAX DIEGO
6 CAUrPOL TOUDER C.CONUAIA C.CONUAIO MUNI MUNE ^ CAUF CALF
Noarest Postal Address Nearest Postal Address City or Town State or Country
Additional remarks: - Additional remarks:
How long was object in sight? 3 +
Hours Minutes Seconds
determined?
a. Certain c. Not very sure
b. Fairly certain d. Just a guess
6. What was the condition of the sky?
DAY NIGHT F
Bright a.
b. Cloudy b. Cloudy
during
(Circle One): a. In front of you d. To your left
b. In bock of you e. Overhead
c.To your right f. Don't remember
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FTD JUL 61 164 Thisform supersedes ATIC 164, Feb 60, which in obsolete.
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The object appeared:
(Circle One): . As a light b. Shiny c. Dark d.Don't remember
B
YES
Did the object: (Circle One for each question)
a. a. Appear to stand still at any time? Appear to stand stil at any time? Yas No No Don't Know Don't Know
b. Suddenly speed up and rush away at any time? Yos No Don't Know
c. c. Break up into parts or explode? Yos No) Don't Know
d. Give off smoke? You You No Don't Know
e. Change brightness? Yos No Don't Know
f. Change shape? Yes No Don't Know
g. Flash or flicker? Yes No Don't Know
h. Disappear and reappear? h. Disappear and reappear? Yes No Don't Know
.Did the objoct move be somothing at any time, particularly a cloud?
(Clrele One): Yes No Don't Know. IF you enswered YES, then tell what
It moved behind:_
Did the object move In front of something at any time, particularly a cloud?
(Cirel One): Yes No Don't Know. IF you answered YES, then tell what
in front of: _
14. Did the object appear: (Circle One): a.Solid b. Transparent c. Vapor d. Don't Know
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Eyeglasses Yes No o. Bincculors Yes No
b. Sun glasses Yes No F. Telescope Yea No
c. Windshield Yes No 8. Thoodoline Yes No
d. Window glass Yos No h. Other
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a. Sound
b. Color
of the object that you saw such as wings, protrusions, etc., and especially exhaust trails or vapor trails.
Place an arrow.beside.the drawing to show the direction.tho object was.moving.
on SHAPE
18. The edges of the object.were: No
(Circle One): a. Fuzzy or blurred . Other
b. Like a bright star
4,6$7Nou BY me.
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No mme
No CommENT
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No Commant
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d. In an airplane (type) e. Flying over a city?
. At sea f.
f. Other_
27. What were you doing at the time you saw the object, ond how did you happen to notice it?
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IF you were MOVING IN AN AUTOMOBILE or other vehicle af t the time, then complet the following questions:
28.1 What direction were you moving ircle One)
a. North . North c. East c. East e. South South g. West Wost
b. Northeast d. Southeast Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest Northwest
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28.2 How fast were you moving?. 28.2 How fast were you moving? miles per hour.
(Circle One) Yes No . No
What direction were you lookig when you fst saw the objectCircle One 29 WL
g. West
. North c. East e. South h. Northwest
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest i. Overhead
boking when you last saw w the object? (Circle One)
g. West
a. North c. East e. South h. Northwest
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest i. Overhead
If you are familior with bearing terms (angular direction), try to estimate the number of degrees the object was
from true North (thru east) and also the number r of degrees it was upward from the horizon (elevation).
31.1 When it first appeared:
a. From true North. degrees.
b. From horizon__ degrees.
31.2 .When it disappeared:
a. From true North dogrees.
b. From horizon_ degrees.
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In the following sketch, imagine that you are at the point shown. Place an "A" on the curved line to show how
high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you first saw it. Place a "B" on the some curved line to
show how high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you lost saw it.
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CLOUDS (Circle One) WEATHER (Circle One)
a. Cleor sky a. Dry ".
b. Hazy b. Fog, mist, or light rain
c. Scattered clouds Moderate or heavy rain
d. Thick or heavy clouds d. Snow
. Don't remember
CONTACTED
Day Month Year
(Circle One) (Circle One) Yos Yes No No
36.1 IF you answered Y - did they see the object too? No COmMeNT
(Circle One) Yos Yes : No
36.2 Please list their names 36.2 F Please list their names and essos:
(Cirelo One) Yos No No CommBNT
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No CommenT
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statements, or sketches that you believe are important. Try to present the details of the observa-
tion in the order in which they occurred. Additional pages of th
if they are needed.
NAME (Do Not Write in This Space)
(Please Print) CODE:
SIGNATURE
DATE
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REPURT BY TWIX ASAP COCPLETE R.EPOPT
FoiLow. MAJ. DUTY
Hume PHONE GL 8-5757
Capt. Capt. 1SA SA
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Astronomica enomena oes
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THE RE GNTRY OF ANY
TAE MAJOR WITNESS INDICATES DHAT7HE
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(Circle One) Yos No
u Diego
IMPACT
Please give the following information.about yourself: WUFO SUPPLIEN BY:
NAME MAJOR
Last Nams First Name Middl Name
LOS ANGELES AIR DEFeN SECTOR,
ADDRESS NORTON AFB CALIE 8
Street Zone
HE SAN
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TELEPHONE NUMBER MR
SAN DIGGO
Sex SAN DIEGO APPROACH CONSTEEL
Ago (THRU NOPTH ISCALAD NAS)
Indicate any addit information about yours any educ which might:
MR 15 MISSILE EXPSIT FOD GeueRn D.UISION,CONVAIR-
(OVGR)
4Date you complote this questionnaire: 1 Nov 6!
:Doy Month Yoar
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BGHIND ,AFTER THE BRIGAT FLASH OF THe FRANGCTORY,
WEATHER ,CN EACH DATE WAS CAVU, MR.
A VERTICAL C COVERAGE
TO ESTIMATE
TRALSCTORY CEDGTH - 5OO MIL DUDIG Time OF ILLUM,
" WIDTH- 3-5 M 1 bue
" HEIGHT lcccoc TO 150,000
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MAJCR 2E606575
TO
UP. HE HAS NO PROBLEM GETTING
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time of this sighting can be closely established consuat
Log at Linaderg Field since was in communication with a ilot San Begd
barne at the time. The pilot works for Convair, extension is named
4 November 1961: About 2000 hours from
above, I observed a vertical "fire-trail" at an azimuth of abcut 200 degrees
or about 20 degrees west of south, at elevations above the horizontal from
about 40 to 20 degrees s, mean elevation about 30 degrees. The trail was VerY
was consistent, however, with a reentry burneut fron about 30 to 20 miles
altitude and velocity of about 20,000 feet per second. On the latter basis N
as an assumption, the trail was about 50 miles from Del Mar. At such a
ranga, the trail would have had to have been two or three hundred yards
wide. Raturning to the pyrotechni rocket hypothesis, and accapting a
conatant velecity of about l5oo feet per second as possible from, say,
9,000 to 6,000 feet altitude, one would expect to have seen eithar the
aircraft or a rcket trail of luminous gas or have heard some sound with-
in less than thirty seconds. None of these phenomena were onserved; and
for greater altitudes, the unifor velocity of tne trail compatibls
with mucn nigher velocities in an atmospharic trajectory. dy conseouence,
I coocluded that I had witnessec the reentry and burnout of one of the mary
satellites in orbit, aitnough the vertical trace of the trail and the uni-
form wiath were cause for scme doubt on tnis nypothesis.
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exoent for one faature.
Maerers the first twe treils hod beet vertical, this trall tilted or areed
ctnga steeply troa the morth to tha south with a shellow but noticeable
eaeratures Ths direotion of viey wes at an assnuth of akoutao dogress or
that 4
as thaxe
airoly aa being Sd of San Degs.
Liven in Pacifig Baaah, telepbone
DODe
in oan
Convair Plant . Lophons
soservei the trai as a loal-traeo to tho sonth
a li betseen Torrey Pines and ilek Fer. Siaco both abgervara
adot Bep cbasrgea a curred ttace and oboeryed a verticali truce, the
rajotry pwdere to be roughly on a line through Ban Liogo and Ccserside.
Suph a Iure wakgeda in the dtrection of the Kankatahka panirania.
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sky brilliantly termed a "Santa Anba" con
dition, a hot desert east wind. After my imitial sighting on 2 November,
I spent several bours at different tines in my patio to see if some sort
of metoorite shcwer was in progress between iss0ia 1900 and 2200 hours..
During this antire watch period I saw only three small meteorite traila,
all having a very fin trace and angular velocity of two to thrae times that of
over a dis
that some sart of publicity
provide you with aore information from mors observers. My initial reacticn
to the possinle ixplications of these sightings to national Security has
restrained me from promoting any publicity on the suoject. In any casa,
the preceding covers the information I have up todate.
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2l00 local time. Weather at the time of each sighting was CAVu. Source A
stated that: all three sightings were
and were the brightest things that he had ever seen. Each sighting appeared to
be the same; that is an upside down missile trajectory which
smoke or falling parts in its lighted trail. He offers some
he observed FO. F
of observation; the height of his house and determining the angle by trigonometry.
Source states that his
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home).
Part 4. on 7 Nov Source A $ d started asking and calling others to see if
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Tower I Municiple Field. An the tion:
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for about l0 seconds after the lighted trail disappeared.
Source A, had seen home Source B was available
for interview. .
in the vicinity of l00,000 to 150,000 ft. And that in that part of UF0's to
(did not speci o the sightings 2
San Diego, they have a perfect bracket, and are now ready to fire for effect.
Part 7. Due to other commitments, Intelligence this headquarters is unable to
perform any additional collection efforts on this subject. Request you advise
as to material.
Submitted via telephone 15 Nov 61, Ma,jor Hanton, Intelligence . ) - S B
Air Defense Sector, Norton AFB, Telephone for Sage, ext 8l887.
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I be regarded as confidential material. Your name will not
be used in connection with any statements, conclusions, or publications without your permission.
We request this personal information so that, if it is deemed necessary, e may contact you for
further details.
1. When did you see the object? 200
2Time of day: 2H8600
tuN Minutes
Doy Month Year (Circle One): A.M. or P.M.
.Time 3.Time Zone: Zone: (Circle One): a. (Circle One): a. Eastern Eastern
(Circle One): (Circle One): a. Daylight Saving Daylight Saving
b. b. Central Central 1 b. Standord
c. Mountain
d. d. Pacific
e. Other Other
4. Where were you when you saw the object?
Noarest Postal Address City or Town State or Country
Additional remarks: - Additional remarks:-
2/2
How long was object in sight? Minutes
Hours Seconds
determined?
a. Certain c. Not very sure
b. Fairly certain d. Just a guess
6. What was the condition of the sky?
DAY NIGHT
a. Bright 0. Bright
b. Cloudy b. Cloudy
(Circle One): In front of you d. To your left
b. In back of you e. Overhead
c. To your right f. Don't remember
FORM
FTD JUL 61 164 Thisform supersedes.ATIC 164, Feb 60, which is obsolete.
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Tol fworshfollowg this out thet
a. Sound No
b. Color — C+1
of the object that you saw such as wings, protrusions, etc., and especially exhaust trails or vapor trails.
H
,>T W-oFS STRMIGHT up
Avs Down
2 vo W-oc N. SIRAICHT uo nns DOWN.
3 n N -S
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18. The edges of the object were:
(Circle One): a.Fuzzy or.blurred . Other . Other- I
b. Like a bright star
c. Shorply outlined
d. Don't remember
. IF there was MORE THAN ONE object, then how many were there?
Draw a picture of ho nat
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B
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20. Draw a picture that will show the motion that the object or objects made. Place an"A"at beginning of
the path, a "B at the end of the path, and show any changes in direction during the course.
LARCER TiAN RECUAR mEIFOC TRAIC
22. We wish to know the angular size.· Hold a match stick at arm's length in line with a known object.and note.
how.much of the object:is covered by the head of the match. If you had performed this experiment:at the time
of the sighting, how much of the object would have been covered by the match head?
HaLE Of LITTLE FivCer M aens LENCIH
SAME nmE. .
common object or objects. which, when placed.up In the sky, would give the same appe arance as the object
which you saw.
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. At sea f. Flying over open country?
f. Other
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following questions:
a. North c. East . South g. West
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
40 _miles per. hour.
(Circle One) Yes No
What direction were you looking when you first saw the object? Circle One)
g. West
0. North East e. South h. Northwest
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest i. Overhead
If you are familiar with bearing terms (angular direction), try to estimate the number of degrees the object was
from true North (thru east) and also the number of degrees it t was upward fre e horizon (elevation).
31.1 When it first appeared:
a. From true North__ _degrees.
b. From horizon__._ degrees.
31.2 When it disappeared:
a.F From true North dogrees.
b. From horizon _ degrees.