DECLASSIFIEDUSAF PROJECT BLUE BOOK · NARA T-1206
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE
PROJECT BLUE BOOK
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT CASE FILES · 1947 – 1969
CASE REFERENCE7814171
DATE OF SIGHTINGJune 1960
REPORTED LOCATIONNewton Ohio
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PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD
1. DATE 2. LOCATION 12. CONCLUSIONS
29 June, 1960 Newton, Ohio Was Balloon
000 Probably Balloon
DATE-TIME GROUP TYPE OF OBSERVATION Possibly Balloon
Local. Ground-Visual Ground-Rodar 0 Was Aircraft
100 Probably Aircraft
GMT 30/0400 AinVisual Air-intercept Rader Possibly Aircraft
5. PHOTOS SOURCE XX Was Astronomical Jupiter
0 Probably Astronomical
Civilian Possibly Astronomicel
7. LENGTH OF OBSERVATION 8. NUMBER OF OBJECTS . COURSE Other.
Very slowly 000 Insufficient Data for Evaluation
1 1 1/2 hours One Unkno wn
to West to West
I0. BRIEF SUMMARY OF SIGHTING I0. BRIEF SUMMARY OF SIGHTING 11. COMMENTS
Very bright object color white, then green arid The object responsible for this sighting
then red and rust. One side had finger-like then red and rust. One side had finger-like is the planet Jupiter. A haze Iayer is the planet Ju piter. A haze Iayer was was
projections. Larger than stars and ocassionally probably responsible for the flickering
faded and reappeared. faded and eappeared. and changes in color. Jupiter was in the and changes n color. Jupiter was in the
location described by the wi tness, and
checks on subsequent nights indicated
that Jupiter was the probable cause. that Jupiter was the probable cause.
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3 Do you think you can estimate the speed of the object?
(Circle One) Yes No
Do you think you can estimate how far away from you the object was?
(Circle One) Yes No
IF you answered YES, then how far away would you say it was?.
41. Please give the followina infen 41. Please give the tollowing r about yourself: about yourselt:
NAME NAME. Me Name Middl Name
ADDRESS. Ohio Ohio
Zone State
TELEPHONE NUMBER
Age Sox M
Indicate any additlonal information about vourge Including any education, which might be pertinent.
Newtoun, Ohis.
42. Date you completed this questionnaire: 30 June 11960
Day Month Year
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Comments By Statf Duty Officer.
Checks were made with all local a gencires- le
FIt.service.) Local Monicipal CAA Contic! Towor,
U.S. Weather Sta. ENo ballon yet releesed) AACS.
Base Opns. - All negatice. -.
Subject Subject was was sincere sincere and very helpful in and very helfful in
providing providing intormation . stated that Lunken intormation.- stated that Lunken
Airport Airport had had sent of plàne for identifiction sent of plàne for identification
pupeses. - Didnt know results, buspescs 4. -Also that Boone - AlHtB..
Co. Airport radar had been contacted re.
this sighting
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UFO ANALYSIS SHEET
Location NEWTOWN
Date 29JuNe 60
WX HARY.
Deacription As crenT -
ANO REACCE COLOR
QuRATO 1430.
Direotion of Motion Veey cowcy Direction of Motion Scdwe —
Satellite: (AFCIN-4F3, PhOne 69219) Mucez 7o0
Astronomical Phenomena (Meteor, Comet, Planet, ete)oss-ecy
6R PLANET.
Radar Analysis (AFCIN-4El) N INera
Natural Phemomena (Ball Lightning, etc)
Aircraft, Balloons, Airships, etc. Ze sec yoR
OtherCc
CENG.
Analysis and Conclusions: 1HE 1 HE OBUECT PROBAOLY OBUECTPROBAOCY RESPONSIOLK RSSPONSIOLK
TH15 THIS SICHTINE Is Is THE THE PLANET JUDRTER. JUPITER.
FOR POSTTEIN POSTTEON
TISE POSITION COSITIAN COINCIDES COINCLDES WoM. WOM. TTE TTE
OF PAE PLANET. HABE LAYER WAs
PROBAOLY RESPON SIALE FOK THE COCOR
ArD CIHECKS ON SUBSEOUGNT
NIGIYT5 CLEARLY INOICATE5 TAT
WAS THE PROBAOCE CACSE. Jreind.
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21 March 1961
Dear
This will acknowledge your letter of 14 March 196l in
which you reported sighting an unidentified flying object
last summer as 6 June through August. tarougn Auguit 4
Your letter contained insufficient information for a
valid conelusion. valid conelusion. Thefefor request you fill out the
attached Air Force questionnaire in detail and forward the
completed do ment to th Ommander, Aerospace Technical ormmander, Aerospace Technical
Intelligence Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio Intelligence Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio
for their analysis and/or evaluation.
Sincerely, Sincerely,
Knclosure LAWRENCE J. TACKER
Lt. Colonel, USAF
Publie Information Division
Office of Information
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EVIDENCE OP SAUCER LANDING IN ENGLAND: Shortly before prees time,
an ineident nearly identical to the ons abe brought to our attontion, by
the London Unidentified Flying Object ganization, of London, Eng-
land: A farmer named Bill Edwards s pasture fields one
iaprints in ground which formed
two coneentrie circles - the outer cne approximatel eet in diameter, and
the inner one l6 feet aeross.. The width ef the imprints inches, and the
grass at the edge of thom showed indications of having beon burned. The depth grass at the edge of rned. The depth
of th. imprints was about one inch, leading to the almost inoscapable conclu- of the imprints was bou one inch, leading to the almost inoscapable conclu-
sion that they were caused by some large heavy circular object which had land-
ed recently in tho fiold. The ground was very hard, as there had been.no rain ed recently in the field. The ground was very hard, as there had been.no rain
recently, and this fact added the evidence. that the object which landed thoconiect -whioh lardnd
must have been very heavy indeed. Mhe-field in question is about a half mile
from. the nearest road,, and no vehicle could have reached the spot without
thers being scme sign of approach through other fields - but there were no
such signs. . Edwards had been to the same only two days previously, and
according to him there were definitely no o circles visible then. The day pre-
vious to the discovery of the mystorious s circles, Edwards and some helpers
were working in a nearby field. They noticed nothing umusual that day, nor did
arry other local resident report anything umusual. Thus, thi case is defini te-
ly one of the strangest on record.
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No Case (Information Only) 8 June 1960
New York, New York
Source: UFo Investigator July-August 1960
3100/01-20
June 81M Terk June 81Mg Tert Csi-A lumsnoue
blulsh llipbieal blulmh llipbteal UFD LFD moving at high
apoed yas seen son from mid-ton Manhett.
an by Loe dell, an by Lee Bell, a btechembet, btechemset, ebout
3:45 a.. The UFO, 3:45 a.. The UFO, whsch whsch "eeened to
ie oreloped in a blwish nebuloue
aist through which der vertical
perallel markings w visible,"
appeared 15 Iongth:
(about & timee the diamoter of the
full moon). It appeared aboud 20
belew and: to the Polario
(the North Star and • yest.
orly direciion, trgvelling ab
be fory psaepgearinj.
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INFORMATION ONLY (NO CASE) Seattle, Washington
SAUCER NEWS, VO1 II, MAR 64 12 JUN 60
24.
NEWS BRIEFS: The photo-
graph at the right was sent to us
a correspondent in Seattle, Washing-
ton, who wishes to remain anonymous.
It was supposedly taken on June 12th,
1960, by a young man who saw a disc- 1yov, by a young man wno saw a dsc- IRE
shaped object hover at low altitude -1
for a period of several seconds..
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MEMO ROUTING SLIP NEVER USE FOR APPROVALS, DISAPPROVALS.
CONCURRENCES, OR SIMILAR ACTIONS
NAME OR TITLE INITIALS CIRCULATE
MAJOR FRIEND
ORGANIZATION AND LOCATION DATE COORDINATION
AFCIN-4E2
2 FILE
INFORMATION
3 NECESSARY
ACTION
NOTE AND
RETURN
4 SEE ME
SIGNATURE
REMARKS
This report collected by the ATIC Duty Officer
of 29 June 1960.
FROM NAME OR TITLE DATE
Mrs. Kiitle Mes. Kiitle 30/6 30/
ORGANIZATION AND LOCATION ORGANIZATION AND LOCATION TELEPHONE
$X2 57117
DDF 50 95 DDFB F 50 95 Replaces DA AGO Form S95, I Apr 48, and AFHQ c48--16--74067-2 c48--16--74067-2
Form 12, 10 Nov 47, which may be used. GPO GPO
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No Case (Information Only) 24 June 1960
Bermuda
246. M1 sweiw te lome S.S, Serte Sefie, in Ieng.
(em) 241 W in the
West Indies. The UFb wes r1d
hie Offtoe by ehips wt ee wing bright abieet..
out 7120 Po Bimilar ounta.
from She Fsnnieh M.VKorahelm bright white seoke: and glan
In JontuASOSSK
Hetteres, M.Co The.Meleerly. viesble" Visible for twe
ot Imtervele hich
ro of-1 etraichs
UF setatatx eds stee albiiude of
60 from St to due gouth dasee
vio mejar 180
UNE1GGO NE1G60
NEws BRIers: A myatarious aerial object was seen by several resi- NEws BRlers: A myatarious aerial object was seen by several resi-
dents of Bermuda on dents of Bermuda on the night of June 24th, It was bright in tho centor, liks the night of It was brigh
a star, and carried an centor, liks
a star, and carried an aura of light around it, It alsc seome aura of lieh t around it. It alse seomed to have lights
'liko a bomb, but nado no sound..
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No Case (Information Only) 25 June 1960
Akron, Ohio
Source: UFo Investigator July-August 1960 July-August 1960
June 251 June OntomiUaeir B. Dwvis,
former formes of Arwy Intelligenee, Intelligenee,
reported reported watehim
like Uro fla like Ur0 flach pour12:25 12:25
a.P. and the
horizon, night, iw Tucsen, Arta
one,a sbjeet moving le
faae of the soen wae .
reporte meroue people sbout We behes b col
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No Case (Information Only) 25 June 1960
Tueson, Arizona
On February 13, at Grand Blanc, Michigan & greenish dome-topped
disc-shaped UrO was photographed disc-shaped UFO was photographed near tho Moon by Restaurat Owner Joseph d near tho Moon by Restaurant Cwner Joseph
Perry. Similiar objects were seen crossing the Moon from Tucson, Krizona on
June 25 and confirmed at other lo-lities also.
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No Case (Information Only) 30 June 1960
Martin, Tennessee
Tbe
1960
IVUDENCE OF SAUCER LANDING IN TENNESSEE: In a case sOmeWhAt dimilar
to several otbers past few ysars, a circle appeared myetericusly on the
ground overnight - th time ix hs front yard of a home in Martin, Tennesaee.
Miss Josophine Damron, who lives with her mother and brother near Martin, told
reporters that on the morning of June Zoth she noticed what she first believed
to be mole workings in her yard." Upon closer examiration, she saw that it was to be mole workings in her yard.
a perfect circle with its circumference a black, greasy substance about six
to elght inches in diamster. It looked a bit liks eil. but when touched felt
like car greaseHowever,-after drying out in-the aumy the substance hada
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and fcund to be alncst exactlyi fifteen feet.in diamater. - Since t that time,
two other such cireles hav ppeared oIsewhere in the vicimity of Martin, and
none have been axplained.
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INFORMATIGN ONLY 6653)650.01
CASE DTD 29_June,196O
Southern Texas.
NO CARD IN FILES
UNEL
susp
AFCIN-LE2
Request for Information
5 July 1960
AFCIN-LA2c
Request attached report be checked to detenaine the possibility of
a staell Vor carrier being responsible for the sighting.
RICHARD R. SHOOP 1 Atch:
Colonel, USAF Cy In Msg 1 Jul 60 fr OxCkF
AFCIN-LE2 (C) T60-23205cy2) (C) T60-23205cy 2)
W mn # I Waen me #1 or not ar not
altsched. the classisextion ...n this ... thin
Memo ill bo capceled ilt be canceled 15
in acrotdener acretdencr Par 7
AFX - AFR P1 1.
Memo for record: On & Dec 6l contacted Col Conkey, former head of LA2C
and was informed that all information requests of this nature
he were forwarded to Space Track at Carbridge. Space Track at
discontinued on 1 Jan l96l, so it is assumed that these
records were destroyed t this tipe. No replacement agency for
T/Sgt Mood
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1 - 15 JULY 1960 SIGHTINGS
DATE LOCATION OBSERVER EVALUATION
1 Moron AB, Spain Mulci Astro (METEOR)
Lake Nottewa, Michigan Iusufficient Data
H Oak Hill, West Virginia Aircraft
Chanute AFB, Illinois Multiple Astro (METEOR)
1 Biggs AFB, Texas Military Astro (METEOR)
Mather AFB, Califormia Other (REFLECTION)
Ketteriag, Ohio Astre (METEOR)
Dayton, Chio Aircraft:
Tel Aviv, Israel US Naval Attache Insufficient Data
Richfield, Idaho Astr(VENUS)
Brrokvilie, Long Island, New York Aircraft
HNNNMAOOMM 39.20N 145.50E (Pacific) Northwest Airlines Other (MISSILE)
Texas, Louisiana. Military Air AstroMETEOR AbCTO (MElSOk)
Misawa A3, Japan Misawa A, Japan Multi Balloon
S of Portland, Oregon Aircraft
0M∞∞∞ Minot, North Dakota Minot, North Dakota Astro (VEGA)
Hawtharne, New Jersey Astro METEOR
Mason,Onis Mason, Onis Astre ARCTURUS) (ARCTURUS)
Big Delta, Alaska Astro (METEOR) METEOR
9 Portland, Oregon Astre Astre METEOR) (METEOR)
10 Marlim, Texas Marlim, Texas Insufficieat Data
11 Independence. Missouri Astre (METEOR) Astre (METEOR)
11 Kausas City, Missouri Aircreft
11 Williston, North Daketa Other (CONFLICTING INFO)
13 Truk Atell Balloom
14 Mitho AB, Japaa Military Air Astro METEOR
14 Portland, Oregon
14 Dayton, Ohio Aircraft
15 Pensacola Bay, Florida Astro (METEOR)
ADDITIONAL REPORTED SIGHTINGS (NOT CASES)
DATE LOCATION SOURCE EVALUATION
Jul Niles, Tilinois Green 164
Jul Sheep Reck, Moatana, Coeburn, Va Newselipping
Montrelier, Idaho Newsclipping
1 Leefe, Wyoming
2 Maiquetia, Venezuela Newsclipping
2 Milwaukee, Viscorsis Milwaukee, Viscorsis Summary - Fireball Reports
2 2 Illinois Newsclipping
2 San Juan,Puerto Rico San Juan,Puerto Rico Nawsclipping Nawsclioping
4 Storeham, Massachusetts Stoneham, Massachusetts (I.tr) (I,tr)
10 Troy, New York Newsclippiag
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U.S. AIR FORCE TECHNICAL INFORMATION SHEET
This questionnaire has been prepared so that you can give the U.S. Air Force as.much
information as possible concerning the unidentified aerial phenomenon that you have observed.
Please try to answer as many questions.as you possibly can. The information that you give will
be used for research purposes, and will be regarded as confidential material. Your name will not
be used in connection with any statements, conclusions, or publications.without your permission.
We request this personal information so that, if it is deemed necessary, we may contact you for
further details.
.When did you see the object? Q6 Q6
Hour Minutes
29 June 1960
Month Year (Circle One): A.M. or A.M. or P.M) P.M
3. Time Zone: (Circle One):a. (Circle One):Ca.
Eastern (Circle One): a. Daylight Saving
b. Central b. Standard b. Standard
c. Mountain
d. Pacific
0. Other
4. Where were you when you saw the object?
Niutoun Olic
Noarest Postal Address City or Town State or Country
Additional remarks:- Parked car-got out and observed.
How long was object in sight? 2 30
Hours Minutes Seconds
5.1 How was time in sight determined?
a. Certain c. Not very sure
b. Fairly certain d. Just a guess
6. What wgs the condition of the:sky?
DAY NIGHT
a. Bright a. Bright Bright
b. Cloudy Cloudy b. Cloudy b. Cloudy
.IF you saw the object during DAYLIGHT, where was the SUN located as you looksd at the object? 7.IF you saw the object during DAYLIGHT, where was the SUN located as you looked at the object?
(Circle One): a. In front of you (Circle One): a.In front of you d. To your left d. To your left
b. In back of you e. Overhead
c. To your right f. Don't remember
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ATIC FEB 60 FORM
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IF you saw the object at NIGHT, what did you notice concerning the STARS and MOON?
8.1 STARS (Circle One): 8.2 MOON (Circle One):
a. None Bright moonlight
b. A few b. Dull moonlight
c. Many c. No moonlight — pitch dark
d. Don't remember d. Don't remember
9. The object appeared:
(Circle.One): a.As a light b. Shiny c. Dark d.Don't remember
10. If it appeared as a light, was it brighter than the brightest stars?
Yes- Yes- /
Did the object: (Circle One for each question)
a. Appear to stand still at any time? a. Appear to stand still at any time? Yes No No Don't Know
b. Suddenly speed.up and rush away at any time? Yes No Don't Know
c. Break up into parts or explode? Yes No Don't Know
d. Give off smoke? Yes No Don't Know
e. Change brightness? Yes No Don't Know
f. Change shape? Yes No Don't Know
g. Flash or flicker? Yes No Don't Know
h.Disappear.and reappear? Yes No Don't Know
12.Did the object move behind something at any time, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): Yes No Don't Know, IF you answered YES, then tell what
it moved behind:_ Po.ssibly caver
.Did the object. move in front of something at any time, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): (Circle One): Yes No Don't Know. Don't Know. IF you answered YES, then tell what IF you answered YES, then tell what
in front of:
.Did the object appear: 14. Did the object appear: (Circle One): (Circle One): a. Solid b. Transparent c. Vapor d. Don't Know
Princpal didnt Princ al didnt but but
Did you observe the object through any of the following? others did other did)
a. Eyeglasses a. Eyeglasses Yes Yes No e. Binoculars Biroculars No
b.Sun glasses Yes No f. Telescop Yes No
c. Windshield Yes No g. Theodolite Yes No
d. Window glass Yes No Other
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16. Tell in a few words the following things about the object.
a. SoundNone
b. color Very bright - White then red, green, rust -
Draw a picture that willshow the:shape of the object or objects.Label:and include:in your sketch.any details
of the object that you.saw such as wings, protrusions, etc., and especially exhaust trails or vapor tralls.
Place an arrow beside the drawing to show the direction the object was.moving.
3 6
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180°
The edges of the object were:
(Circle One): a. Fuzzy or blurred e. Other. Onc side had
b. Liko a bright star
c.Sharply outlined
d. Don't remember
19. IF there was MORE THAN ONE object, then how many were there? Onlycre
Draw a picture of how they were arranged and put an arrow to show the direction that they were traveling.
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Draw a plcture that will show the motion that the object r objects madePlace an the beginning o
the path, a "B" at the end of the path, and show any changes in directlon during the course.
(enter St. A
N B
w +E Headed back North slowly
S Scothot.Town (Newtoun) this over a
1 {$hr period.
How large did the object appear to you as compared to an object with which you are familiar? 21. How large did the object appear to you as compared to an object with which you are familiar?
Colldit tell but bigger thar stars byconsiderable. - -
We wish to know the angular size. Hold a match stick at arm's length in line with a known object and note .We wish to know the angulor size. Hold a match stick at arm's length in line with a known object and note
how much of the object is covered by the head of the match. If you had performed this experiment at the time
of the sighting, how much of the objoct would have been covered by the match head? of the sighting, how much of the objoct would have been covered by the match head?
Couldnt tell. Couldnt tell.
2. Did the object disappear while you were watching it? If so, how?
Faded - va nd re afpeared -
24. In order that you can give as clear a picture as possible of what you saw, describe in your own words a
common object or objects which, when placed up in the sky, would give the same appearance as the object
which you saw.
At first subjeet thougLtofa magnesion
flare - then object flare- then objet flashed differestcolors Flashed differestcolors
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25. Where were you located when you saw the object? 26. Were you (Circle One)
(Circle One):
a. In the business:section of a city?
a.Inside a building b. In the residential section of a city?
b. In a car c. In open.countryside?
C. Outdoors d. Near an airfield?
d. In an airplane (type) e. Flying over a city?
At sea f. Flying over open country?
f. Other
27.What were you doing. at the time you saw the object, and how did you happen.to notice it?
Night patralmen called subjet autt bed.since local
fepulace becoming very distorbed fepulace becoming very distorbed.
IF you were MOVING IN AN AUTOMOBILE or other vehicle at th time, then complete.the following questlons: 2. IF you were MOVING IN AN AUTOMOBILE or other vehicle at tho time, then complete. the following questlons:
28.1 What direction were you moving? (Circle One) 28.1 What direction were you moving? (Circle One)
0. North . North c. East e. South e. South g. West
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
28.2 How fost were you moving?_ _miles per hour.
28.3 Did you stop at any time while you were looking at the obiect?
Circle One) Yos) No
What direction were you looking when you first saw the object? (Circle One)
g. West
a.North c. East e. South h. Northwest
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest i. Overhead
30. What direction were you looking when you last saw the object? (Circle One)
g. West
.North c. Eost South h. Northwest
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest i. Overhead
3.If you are familiar with bearing terms (angular direction), try to estimate the number of degrees the object was 3. If you are familior with bearing terms (ongular direction), try to estimate the number of degrees the object was
from true North (thru east) and also the number of degrees it was upward from the horizon (elevation).
31.1 When it first appeared: 31.1 When it first appeared:
0. From true NorthUK o. From true North_ UK. .degrees. _degrees.
b. From horizon Sotodegrees. b. From horizonFo ovorhead ovorhend
31.2 When it disappeared: 31.2 When it disappeared:
a. From true North nkdegrees.
b. From horizon 30- degrees.
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32. In the following sketch, imagine that you are at the point shown. Place an "A" on the curved line to show how
high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you first saw it. Place a "B" on the same curved line to
show how high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you last saw it.
lauibe
sdady bib woti hno
B/
3. In the following larger sketch place an "A" at the position the object was when you first saw It, and a "B" at Its
position when you last saw it. Refer to smaller sketch as an example of how to complete the larger sketch.
OA B
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34. What were the weather conditions at the time you saw the object?
CLOUDS (Circle One) WEATHER (Circle One)
a. Clear sky 0.Dry
b. Hazy b. Fog, mist, or light rain
c. Scattered clouds c. Moderate or heavy rain
d. Thick or heavy clouds d. Snow
e. Don't remember
35. When and to whom did you report that you had seen the object? when and to whom did you.report that you had seen the object? Capt. Capt. 17orns, Ua Morris, Jack.
29 29 Vine Jine 1960 1960 ATic Duty Officer ATIC Duty Officer
Day Day Month Year Year
3Was anyone else with you at the time you saw the object? 36. Was anyone else with you at the time you saw the object?
(Circle One) Yes) Yes) No
36.1 IF you answered YES, did they see the object too? 36.1 IF you answered YES, did they see the object too?
(Circle One) Yos No
36.2 Pleas
Newtown, Ohis.
37. Was this the first time that you had seen an object or objects like this?
(Circle One) Yos No
37.1 IF you answered NO, then when, where, and under what circumstances did you see other ones?
38. in your opinion what do you think the object was and what might have caused it? 38. in your opinion what do you think the object was and what might have caused it?
Subject didnt Know. Subject didnt Krow.
a