PROJECT BLUE BOOK

PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD
I. DATE 2. LOCATION 12. CONCLUSIONS
Lake Erie 0 Was Balloon
11 Ogtober 1958 Dut in Bay, Ohio 0 Probably Bolloon
3. DATE-TIME GROUP 4. TYPE OF OBSERVATION D Possibly Bailoon
Local Ground-Visual Ground-Rodar 0 Was Aircraft
In a boat 000 Probably Aircraft
GMT_ 31/1117Z. Air Visual Air-Intercept Rador Possibly Aircraft
5. PHOTOS 6. SOURCE R Was Astronomical Mars
Yes 00 Probably Astronomical
0No Civilian Possibly Astronomical
7. LENGTH OF.OBSERVATION 8. NUMBER OF OBJECTS . COURSE Other.
000 Insufficient Data for Evaluation
. Unknown
l minute one Istationary
10. BRIEF SUMMARY OF SIGHTING 11. COMMENTS
Rpund, white light, apreared to The obj was seen in the same
fade out & reappear. The obj was place at differenct times by
observed several times in the several people. The planet Mars
course of several weeks. course of several weeks. was found to be was found to be in positon given. in positon given.
Ground fog could account for Ground fo could account for
intermittent fading of oj. intermittent fading of j.
ATIC FORM 329 (REV 26 SEP 52) ATIC FORM 329 (REV 26 SEP 52)
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28.1 What direction were you moving? (Circle One) - S
North c. East e. South g. West
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
28.3
(Circle One) Yes No deeand
. What direction were you looking when you first saw the object? (Circle One)
R as Como t
31.1 When it first appeared:
.degrees. Ihis objct did not
b. From horizon _
move
31.2 When it disappeared:
a. From true North .. degrees.
b. From horizon _ degrees.

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In the following sketch, imagine that you are at the point shown. Place an "A" on the curved line to show how
high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you first saw it. Place a "B" on the same curved line to
show how high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you last saw it.
. In the following larger sketch place an "A" at the position the object was when you first saw it, and a "B" at its
position when you last saw it. Refer to smaller sketch as an example of how to complete the larger sketch.
B
A
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3.Do you think you can estimate the speed of the object?
(Circle One) Yes No
IF you answered YES, then what speed would you estimate? —m.p.h.
(Circle One) Yes No
IF you answered YES, then how far away would you say it was? 1^{2$2lefo0.
41. Please give the following information about yourself:
NAME -4
Name
ADDRESS Put-in-Bay Ohis
Street City Zone State
TELEPHONE NUMBER
Ago 5/ Ago 5/ sox "male sox male
Please indicate any special educational training that you have had. Please indicate any special educational training that you have had.
a. Grade school .e. Technical school Technical school
b. High school Lyea b. High school. ur (Typo) _ (Type)
c. College
d. Post graduate
4. Date you completed this questionnaire: mow. 10{$ -
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Please try to answer as you possibly can. The information that you give will
be used for resoarch purposes, and will regarded as confidential material. Your name will not
be used in connection with any statements, conclusions, or publications without your permission.
We request this parsonal information so that, if it is deomed nocessary, we may contact you for
furthor details,
.Whon did you seo the object? 2. Time of day: _ Mi
71ev 1958
Day Month Year (Circle Ono): A.M. or P.M.
. Time zone:
(Circle One): G. Eastern (Circle One): a. Daylight Saving
b. Contral Contral b. Standard b. Standard
c. Mountain
d. Pacific
e. Other _ Other -
4. Whore were you when you sow the objoct? 4Where were you when you saw the objoct? on on C Bca
put-2n - Bay put-2n - Bay lis
Nearast Postal Address Nearost Postal Address City or Town City or Town State or Country
Additianal remarks: Additional remarks:
5. Estimate how long you saw the object.
Hours Minutes Seconds
5.1 Circle one of the following to indicate how certain you are of your answer to Question 5.
a. Certain c.Not vory sure
b. Fairly certain d. Just a guess
6. What was the condition of the sky?
(Circle One): Q. Bright daylight d. Just a trace of daylight
b. Dull daylight . No trace of daylight
c. Bright twilight f. Don't remember
the object?
(Circle One): a. In front of you d. To your left
b. In back of you e. Overhead
c. To your right) f. Don't remember 4
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8.1 STARS (Circle Ona): -
8.2 MOON (Circle One):
a. None Bright moonlight
b. A fow b.Dull moonlight
c. Many c. No moonlight-pitch dark
d. Don't remember d. Don't romember
9. Was the object brightar than the background of the sky?
(Circle Ona): a.Yos. b. No c. Don't romember
1IF it was BRIGHTER THAN the sky background, was the brightness like that of an automobile headlight?:
(Circle One) (a. A mile or more away (a distant car)?)
b. Several blocks away?
c. A block away?
d. Several yards away?
. Othor
Did the object: (Circle One for each question) (Circle One for each question)
a. Appear to stand still at any time? Yes Yes No Don't Know
b. Suddenly speed up and rush awcy at any time? Yos No No Don't Know
c. Broak up into parts or explode? c. Break up into parts or explode? Yos No Don't Know
d. Give off smoke? Yes No Don't Know
. Change brightness? Yes Yos No Don't Know
f. Change shape? Change shape? Yes Noo Don't Know
g. Flicker, throb, or pulsote? Yos Yes No Don't Know
Did the object move behind something at anytime, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): Yes No Don't Know. IF you answered YES, then tell what
it moved behind: _
. Did the object move in front of something at anytime, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): Yes No Don't Know. IF you answered YES, than tell what
it moved in front of:
14. Did the object appear: ( (Circle One): a. Solld? b. Transparent? c. Don't Know.
.Did you observe the objoct through any of the following?
a. Eyeglasses No •. Binoculars Yes
b. Sun glasses Yos No f. Tolescope Yes $0
c. Windshiold Yes No g. Thoodolito Yos
d. Window glass Yes No h. Other

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16. Toll In a fow words the following things about the obloct.
a. Sound
b. Color -
of the obloct that you saw such as wings, protruslons, ote., and especlally exhaust tralls or vapor tralls. Place
an arrow beslde the drawing to show the directlon the oblect was moving.
It seeed no to move but
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fade and than get very
bright.
8.The edges of tho object were:
(Circle One): a. Fuzzy or blurred .omor perfectly rnd .omr pesfectly rmind
b. Like a bright star
c.Sharply outlined
d. Don'tremembor d. Don't remember
IF thare was MORE THAN ONE oblect, then how many were there?

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Draw a plcture that wil show the motlon that the abloct or objocts made. Place an "A" at the boginning
of the path, a "B" at tho and of the path, and show any changes In direction during the course.
"
..foet.
22 held In the hand
and at about arm's longth?
(Circle One): a. Head of a pin a. Silver dollar
b. Pea h. Basoball
c. Dime Grapefruit
d. Nicket Basketball
. Quarter k. Other
f. Half dollar
22.1 (Circle One of the following to indicate how certaln you are of your answer to Question 22.
a. Cortain. c. Not very sure
b. Fairly certain d. 'Uncertain
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penadeing the
finst ntid it
a. North c. East e. South g. West
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest Ch. Northwest
28.2 How fast were you moving? 15 miles per hour.
(Circle One) Yes No
2. What direction were you looking when you first saw the object? (Circle One)
a. North c. East e. South g.West
b. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
3. If you are familiar with bearing terms (angular direction), try to estimate the number of degrees the object was
from true North and also the number of degrees as upward from the horizon (elevation).
31.1 When it first appeared:
a. From true North _ degrees.
. From horizon._ degrees.
31.2 When it disappeared:
a.From true North degrees.
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In the following sketch, imagine that you are at the point shown. Place an "A" on the curved line to show how
high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you first saw it. Place a "B" on the same curved line to
show how high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you last saw it.
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3. In the following larger sketch place an "A" at the position the object was when you first saw it, and a "B" at its
position when you last saw it. Refer to smaller sketch as an example of how to complete the larger sketch.
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.What were the weather conditions at the time you saw the object?
34.1 CLOUDS (Circle One) 34.2 WIND (Circle One)
a. Clear sky a. No wind
b. Hazy Slight brooze
c. Scattered clouds c. Strong wind
d. Thick or heavy clouds d. Don't remember
. Don't remember
34.3 WEATHER (Circle One) 34.4 TEMPERATURE (Circle One)
a. Dry) a. Cold
b.F Fog, mist, or light rain b.Cool
c. Moderate or heavy rain c. Warm
d. Snow d. Hot
Don't remember e. Don't remomber
3. When did you report to some official that you had seen the object?
Day Month Year
36. Was anyone else with you at the time you saw the object?
(Circle One) Yes No
36.1 IF you answered YES, did they see the object too?
(Circle One) Yes No
36.2 Please list their names and addresses:
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3. Do you think you can estimate the speed of the object?
(Circle One) YesI No
IF you answered YES, then what speed would you estimate? .m.p.h.
Do you think you can estimate how far away from you the object was?
(Circle One) Yos No
1'3milid foot
IF you answered YES, then how far away would you say it was?
4. Please give the following information about yourself:
NAN ame
ADDRESS pt-2nBBy tie Chi
TELEPHONE
Age 3/ sox Mali
Please indicate any special educational training that you have had.
a. Grade school .. Technical school _ Technical school __
b. High school2 b. High school _2 (Type) - (Type)_
c. College
d. Post graduate
42. Date you completed this questionnaire: Nr 1955
Month Year

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the forms to this Center in the inolosed envelopes.
this matter is appreciated.
Sincerely.
3 Inola H. K. CILBERT
4E4G ATJC Fms No. 164 Colonel. USAF
w/ Envlopes Deputy for Soience and Components

be used for ros ch purposos, and wil regarded as confidential material. Your name will not
be used in connection with any statements, conclusions, or publications without your permission.
We request this parsonal information so that, if it is deemed necessary, we may contact you for
furthor details.
1. When did you see the object? Time of day:
Hour Minutes
Jniday 31 {ct 193F
Month Year (Circle One): A.M or P.M.
tame
3. Time zone:
(Circle One): a. Eastern (Circle One): Daylight Saving
b. Central Standard
c. Mountain
d. Pacific
e, Other
4. Where were you when you saw the object?
O hio
Noarest Poatal Addrest City or Town State or Country
Additional remarks: Connnecènl
.Estimate how long you saw the object. Im
Hours Minutes Seconds
5.1 Circle one of the following to indicate how certain you are of your answer to Question 5.
Certain .Not very sure
Fairly certain d. Just a guess
6. What was the condition of the sky?
(Circle One): a Bright daylight d.) Just a trace of daylight
b. Dull daylight No trace of daylight
c. Bright twilight f. Don't remember
7.IF you saw tho object during DAYLIGHT, TWILIGHT, or DAWN, where was the SUN located as you looked at
the object?
(CircleOne): a. In front of you d. To your left
b. In back of you e. Overhead
c. To your right f. Don't remember
Jheve Toyou be see
ATIC FORM NO. 164 (13 OCT 54)
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IF you saw the ouject, at NIGHT, TWILIGHT, or DAWN, what did you notice concerning the STARS and MOON?
8.1 STARS (Circle Ono): 8.2 MOON (Circle One):
C. None .Bright moonlight
b. A fow . Dull moonlight
c. Many. c. No moonlight - pitch dark
d. Don't remomber d. Don't romember
9.Was the object brightor than the background of tha sky?
(Circlo One): a. )Yos b. No c. Don't remember
IF it was BRIGHTER THAN the sky background, was the brightness like that of an automobile headlight?:
(Circle One) (a.) A mile or more away (a distant car)?
b. Sovoral blocks away?
c. A block away?
d. Sevora! yards away? d. Sevora! yards away?
e. Othor . Other
1. Did the object: teme (Circle One for each question)
ale
a Appear to stand still at any time? No Don't Know Don't Know
b. Suddenly speed up and rush away at any time? Yes Yes No Don't Know Don't Know
c. c. Break up into parts or explode? Yos No No Don't Know Don't Know
d. Give off smoke? d. Give off smoke? Yes Yes No Don't Know
Change brightnoss? Yes No No Don't Know
f. Change shapo? Change shape? Yes Yes No No Don't Know
Elicker, throb, or pulsate? gFlicker, throb, or pulsate? Yes No Don't Know
1.Did the object move behind something at anytimo, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): Yes (No) Don't Know. IF you answered YES, then toll what
it moved behind:.
Did the abject move in front of something at anylime, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): Yes No Don't Know. IF you answered YES, than tell what
it moved in front of: _
14. Did the object appoar: (Circle Ona): a. Solld? b. Transparent? c. Don't Know.
15. Did you observe the object through any of the following?
a. Eyeglasses No o. Binoc ulars Yes
b. Sun glassos Yes No f. Telescope
c. Windshield Yos g. Thoodolita No
d. Window glass Yes No h. Other
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1. Toll In a fow words the following things about the oblect.
. Sound
Color
of the oblect that you saw such as wings, protruslons, ete., and espaclally exhaust tralls or vapor trails. Place
an arrow beslde the drawing to show the directlon the cbloct was moving.
8. The edges of the object were: 8.The edges of the object were:
(Circl One): (Circl One): d. Fuzzy or blurred . Other. Other
Like a bright star Like a bright star
c. Sharply outlined Sharply outlined
d. Don'tremember
IF there was MORE THAN ONE oblect, then how many wore ther?
Draw a plcture of how they were arranged, and put an arrow to show the directlon that they were traval Ing.

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Draw a picture that will show the motlon that the objoct or objocts made. Place an "A' at the beginning
of the path, a "B" at the ond of the path, and show any changes in directlon during the course.
IF PossiBLE, try to guoss or estimate what the real size of the objoct was In its longest dimenslon.
.feet.
22. How large did tho object or objects appear as compared with one of following objects held in the hand
and at about arm's longth?
(Circle One): a. Head of a pin g. Silver dollar
Pea h. Baseball
c. Dime 1. Grapefruit
d. Nicket Basketball
. Quartor Other
f. Half dollar
22.1 (Circle One of the following to indicate how certaln you are of your answer to Question 22.
a. Certain c. Not very sure
Fairly certain d. Uncertain
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