DECLASSIFIEDUSAF PROJECT BLUE BOOK · NARA T-1206
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE
PROJECT BLUE BOOK
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT CASE FILES · 1947 – 1969
CASE REFERENCE7198812
DATE OF SIGHTINGSeptember 1958
REPORTED LOCATIONSeaford Long Island NY
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I. DATE LOCATION 12. CONCLUSIONS
1. Seaford Long Island, NY 0 0 Was Balloon
28 September 1958 2. New York, New York 00 Probably Balloon
3. DATE-TIME GROUP 3. DATE-TIME GROUP 4.TYPE OF OBSERVATION 4. TYPE OF OBSERVATION Possibly Balloon
Local Local 11:25 approx Ground-Visual Ground-Radar Ground-Radar 00 Was Aircraft
000 Probably Aircraft
GMT 29/0325Z - 29/037Z0 Air-Visual Air-Intercept Radar Possibly Aircraft
5. 'PHOTOS 6. SOURCE 0 Was Astronomical
Yes CK Probably Astronomical /Fc
XDXNo Civilian D Possibly Astronomical
7. LENGTH OF.OBSERVATION . NUMBER OF OBJECTS 9. COURSE Other_ for Evaluation
000 Insufficient Data
$1^{a - 2$ secs one E to SE Unkno wn
10. BRIEF SUMMARY OF SIGHTING 11. COMMENTS
Obj like a blanket, red-blue flame The description of this obj
with two short sparks, disappeared indicates it was probably a
instantaneously to the East. fireball. The speed lines
indicated were probably due
Rnd, white obj w/appearance of . to sparks ora faint tail.
"spped trails" coming fm upper &
lower extremities. Size of dime.
Circle Bhape appeared distorted due
to extreme speed.
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IF you saw the ouject, at NIGHT, TWILIGHT, or DAWN, what did you notice concerning the STARS and MOON?
8.1 STARS (Circle One): 8.2 MOON (Circle One):
a. None Bright moonlight
b. A few .Dull moonlight
) Many No moonlight - pitch dark
d. Don't remamber d Don't remember
9.Was the object brighter than the background of the sky?
(Circle One): Yes b. No .Don't remember
. Several blocks away?
c. A block away?
d. Several yards away? d. Several yards away?
. Other . Other
Did the object: (Circle One for each question)
a. a. Appear to stand still at any time? Yes Yes Don't Know
b. Suddenly speed up and rush away at any time? Yes Don't Know
c. Break up into parts or explode? Yes Don't Know Don't Know
d. Give off smoke? Give off smoke? Yes 222222$ 222222$ Don't Know
. . Change brightness? Yes Yes Don't Know
f. Change shape? Yes Yes Don't Know
g. Flicker, throb, or pulsate? Y.s Yes Don't Know
Did the abject move behind something at anytime, particularly a cloud?
(Circle One): Yes No Don't Know. IF you answere YES, then tell what
it moved behind: _
(Circle One): Yes No Don't Know. IF you answered YES, than tell what
it moved in front of:
Did the object appear: (Circle One): 0. Sold? b. Transparent? c. Don't Know.
15. Did you observe the object through any of the following?
a. Eyeglasses Yes •. Binoculars
. Sun glasses Yes No f. Telescope
c. Windshield Yes No g. Theodolite
d. Window glass Yes h. Other
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16. Tell In a few words the following things about the oblect.
. Sound
b Color WTE . Opie
of the obloct that you saw such as wings, protruslons, ete., and especlally exhaust tralls or vapor tralls. Place
an arrow beside the drawing to show the directlon the eblect was moving.
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18. The edges of the object were: . The edges of the object were:
(Circle One): a. Fuzzy or blurred . Other τ
b. Like a bright star
Sharply outlined
d. Don'tremember d.Don'tremember
1IF there was MORE THAN ONE oblect, then how many were there?
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20. Draw a picture that will show the motlon that the oblect or objects mads. Place an "A' at the beginning
of the path, a "B" at the end of the path, and show any changes In direction during the couse.
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2IF PossiBLE, try to guess or estimate what the real size of the object was In Its longest dimension.
INDEE.NITE feet.
22 How large did the object or objects appear as compared with one of t following objects held in the hand
and at about arm's length?
(Circle One): a. Head of a pin g. Silver dollar
b. Pea h. Baseball
c.. c. Dime Dime i. Grapefruit Grapefruit
d. Nicket I. i. Basketball
•. Quarter Quarter k. k. Other
f. Half dollor
22.1 (Circle One of the following to indicate how certain you are of your answer to Questlon 22. 22.1 (Circle One of the following to indicate how certain you are of your answer to Question 22.
a. Certain a. Certain c. Not very sure
b. Fairly certain d. Uncertain d. Uncertain
23. How did the object or objects disappear from view? .How did the object or objects disappear from view?
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24. In order that you can give as clear a plcture as possible of what you saw, we would like for you to Imagine that you could
construct the object that you saw. Of what type materlal would you make It? How large would It be, and what shape
would it have? Doscribe in your awn words a tommon oblect or obloets which when placed up In the sky would give the
seme appearance as the object which you saw.
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•. At sea f. Flying over open country?
f. Other g. Other
What were you doing at the time you saw the objet and how id you happen to notice?
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As THE SLY AND CLEARED THAT DAY -R EVEMAG-
28.1 What direction were you moving? (Circle One)
a. North a. North c. East •. South South g. West
b. Northeast b. Northeast d. Southeast Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
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28.2 How fast were you moving? , miles per hour.
28.3 Did you stop at any time while you were looking at the object?. 28.3 Did you stop at any time while you were looking at the object? .
(Circle One) (Circle One) Yes No
29. What direction were you What direction were you ing when you first saw object? (Circle One)
a. North cy East e. South g. West
.Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
What direction were you looking when you last saw object? (Circle One)
a, North c. East South g. West
$6. Northeast d. Southeast f. Southwest h. Northwest
3. If you are familiar with bearing terms (angular direction), try to estimate the number of degrees the object was
from true North and also the number of degrees it was upward from the horizon (elevation).
31.1 When it first appeared:
a.From true North degrees.
.From horizon _ degrees.
31.2 When it disappeared:
.From true North_ 60 degrees.
b. From horizon__ E5 degrees.
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In the following sketch, imagine that you are at the point shown. Place an "A" on the curved line to show how
high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you first saw it. Place a "B" on the same curved line to
show how high the object was above the horizon (skyline) when you last saw it.
. In the following larger sketch place an "A" at the position the object was when you first saw it, and a "B" at its In the following larger sketch place an "A" at the position the object was when you first saw it, and a "B" at its
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3 What were the weather conditions at the time you saw the object?
34.1 CLOUDS (Circle One) 34.2 WIND (Circle One)
a Clear sky a.No wind
b. Hazy Slight breeze
c. Scattered clouds c. Strong wind
d. Thick or heavy clouds dDon't remember
. Don't remember
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34.3 WEATHER (Circle One) 34.4 TEMPERATURE (Circl One)
a Dry a. Cold
b. Fog, mist, or light rain 6; Cool
c. Moderate or heavy rain Warm
d. Snow d. Hot
Don't remember •. Don't remember
When did you report to some official that you had seen the object?
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Day Month Year
Was anyone else with you at the time you saw the object? 36. Was anyone else with you at the time you saw the object?
(Circle One) (Circle One) Yes No No
36.1 IF you answered YES, did they see the object too?
(Circle One) (Circle One) Yes No
36.2 Please list their names and addresses:
3Was this the first time that you had seen an object or objects like this?
(Circle One) Yes No
37.1 IF you answered NO, then when, where, and under what circumstances did you see other ones?
38 In you opinion what do you think the object was and what might have caused it?
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THEREFOR I MESITATE TO VENTURE ANY GUESS AT TO AIGCLAFT oR CTUER THINDS.
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3 Do you think you can estimate the speed of the object?
(Circle One) Yes No) (pt Ts 2-DACE DJApCE
IF you answered YES, then what speed would you estimate? ._m.p.h.
(Circle One) Yes No
IF you answered YES, then how far away would you say it was? fot.
Please give the following information about yourself:
NAME asr Name First Name Middlo Name
ADDRESS MgN
City Zone State
TELEPHONE NUMBE TELEPHONE NUMBE
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Ago +1 Ago 1+1 SexM SexMt
Please indicate any special educational training that you have had.
a.Grade school _ Grade school . . Technical school. •. •. Technical school _
High school b. Hiah school (Type) ( (Txm)(2
College f. Other special training.
d.Post graduate
42. Date you completed this questionnaire: 47
Dov Menth Year
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U. S. AIR FORCE TECHNICAL INFORMATION SHEET
(SUMMARY DATA)
In order that your information may be filed and coded as accurately as possible, please use
the following space to wr short description of that you observed. You may re-
peat information that you ave already given in the questionne and add any further comments,
statements, or sketches that you believe are important. Try ent the details of the observa-
tion in the order in which they occurred. Additional pages of th size paper may be attached
if they are needed.
NAME Print) (Do Not Write in This Space)
CODE:
SIGNATURE
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UNCLASS FROM MTL 399-09 OP. FOR:ASSISTANT CHIEF OF STAFF
HQ USAF FOR: OFFICE OF INFORMATION SERVICES HQ USAF.
FOLLOWING INFORNATION FURNISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH AFR 200-2,
5 FEBRUARY 1958, ON UFOB RECEIVED: •
A. (1)CLIKE A BLANKET->/2PE
(2) NOT INDICATED •
(3)(RED BLUE FLAME •
(4) ONE
(5) NOT APPLICABLE •
UU atie
(6) NONE •
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(7) TWO SHORT SPARKS •
(8) NONE
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(9) NONE
B. (1) WAS LOOKING UP AT THE TINE WHILE WALKING DOG. •
(2) NOT INDICATED icsn
(3) NOT INDICATED) LL •
(4) STRAIGHT DOWN •
(5) INSTANTANEOUSLY TO- THE EAST
(6) THREE SECONDS •
C. (1) GROUND OVSERVATION, NAKED EYE •
(2) NONE
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D. 0317 ZULU 29 SEPTEMBEJ 1958 v3 Z-s- 711
(2) NIGHT
E. SEAFORD, LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK
F. (1) TRUCK DR
(2) NOT APPLICABLE
G. (1) CLEAR SKY, VISIBLLITY FIFTEEN PLUS, WINDS NORTH AT TEN.
(2) SURFACE WINDS AT TEN.
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20000 320 61 • •
30000 30000 320 320 72 72
50000 280 57 •
80000 270 13 •
(3) NONE
(4) FIFTEEN PLUS •
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(5) NONE •
(6 NONE
H. POSSIBLE AIRCRAFT EXHAUST OF AIRCRAFT IN BANKING TURN
I. NONE
J. OVER TOWN OF SEAFORD (SOUTHERN STATE PARKWAY) ALTITUDE UNKNOWN
DIRECTION EASTERLY
K. AIRDROME OFFICER ON DUTY CAPTAIN FRED PERRY. POSSIBLE AIRCRAFT
EXHAUST BLANKETED BY TURNING AIRCRAFT IN THE BABYLON N AREA.
NEW YORK CITY RADAR CHECKED. . .
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(2)NIGHT
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F. (1) TRUCK DRIVE
SEAFOR LONG
(2) NOT APPLICABLE
G. (1) CLEAR SKY, VISIBLLITY FIFTEEN PLUS, WINDS NORTH AT TEN.
(2) SURFACE WINDS AT T TEN.
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80000 270 13 •
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(4) FIFTEEN PLUS
(5)NONE •
(6) NONE
H. POSSIBLE AIRCRAFT EXHAUST OF AIRCRAFT IN A BANKING TURN
I. NONE
J. OVER TOWN OF SEAFORD STATE PARKWAY) ALTITUDE UNKNOWN
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October 1.1958
New York 22, N.Y.
Office of Unidentified Flying Objects
United States Air Force
Pentagon Puilding
Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
I wish to report a
ed "flying saucer" in certain cicles, on September 28, at about
11:25 P.M., while crossing the stree
The object appeared to be traveling .
a south-southeasterly direction and at very rst sight seemed
to be a meteorite but was traveling at a flat trajectory and was
far larger than any meteorites I have observed . It disappeared
past a rooftop. I would not venture to speculate as to its actual
size or altitude. Trails seemed to appear at each end of the disc-
like object, similar to those seen in advertisements, etc., showing
"speed trails" on aircraft (which in the latter are of course invis-
ible).
My first impulse was to report this to the local office of the U.S. My first impulse was to report this to the local office of the U.S.
Weather Bureau, and then I decided to Weather Bureau, and I to spend a few spend a few days thinking days thinking
over this s unusual experience. No newspapers have been notified, in- No newspapers have been notified, in-
asmuch as I do not seek publicity of any kind and am even hesitant am even hesitant
+o friends.
I feel that I am unusually qualified in my observation inasmuch as
flown for Trans-Caribbean Air-
ways as well as other air lines. My Airman Certificate is.
The length of my sighting was from 1 to 1 1/2 seconds as nearly as
it was possible to estimate. Other than the facts contained herein,
there is nothing else I can add except to say that an airliner passed
overhead several seconds later inbound to LaGuardia Field.
It will be greatly aprreciated you will extend me
of an acknowledgement.
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SAFIS-3 SAFIS-3 Maj. Tacker 10 October 1958
FROM: COMMENT NO.
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1. The information contained in Mr. The information contained in Mr. letter is letter .. icient for the ATIC ne ATIC
to make an accurate and valid analysis. alysis.
2. Inclosed are copies of ATIC Form No. 164, to be forwarded to Mr.
Upon completion of these for should forward them directly to the ATIC.
3.
with the analysis or further investigation as data dictates.
2 Incls: H. K. GILBERT
1. Ltr fr Colonel, USAF
2. ATIC Fm 164 AFCIN-4E
AFHO FARM MMAY 56 0-86 PREVIOUS EDITIONS OF THIS FORM MAY BE USED. GPO 908344
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21 October 1958
Dear Mr.
This is to acknowledge your letter of 1 October 1958 concerning
your sighting of an i unidentiried lying object on 28 September 1958
in New York City.
The
Air Technical Intelligence Center to make an accurate and valid
analysis.
Therefore, I am inclosing a copy of the l USAF Technical Informa-
tion Sheet with instructions for for completing completing this form. form. Please Please send send
the completed form directly the completed form directly to the Air Technical to the e Air Technical Intelligence Intell Center Center
at Wright-Pati at Wright-Patt rson Air Force n Air Force Base, ,Ohio. Ohio.
Upon receipt Upon receipt the completed forms, the completed forms, the Air Technical Technical
Intelligence Center will proceed with the analysis and/or further
investigation.
Thank y Thank y is matter.
Sincerely, Sincerely,
2 Inclosures LAWRENCE J. TACKER
Major, USAF
Executive Officer
Public Infornation Division
Office of Information Services
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U. S. AIR FORCE INFORMATION
This questionnaire has been prepared so that you can give the U. S. Air Force as much
information as pe concerning identified aerial phenomenon that you have observed.
Please try to a you possibly can. The information that you give will
be used for res regarded as confidential material. Your name will not
be used in connection with any statements , conclusions, or publications without your permission.
We request this personal information so that, if it is deemed necessary, may contact you for
further details.
1. When did you see the object? .Time of day: - 11 25 Acn*
Hour Minutes
3a SEPT. 1358
Momh (Circle One): A.M or P.M.
3. Time zone:
(Cirele One): a. Eastern (Circle One): a. Daylight Saving
b. D. Central Contral b. Standard B. Srandara
c. Mountain c. Mountain
d. Pacific d. Pacific
. Other_ . Other _
were you when you saw the object? yere you when you saw the object?
NY NY
M City or Town State or Country
Additional
. Estimate how long you saw the object. 5. Estimate how long you saw the object.
Hours Minutes Seconds
Certain c. Not very sure
b. Fairly certain d. Just a guess
What was the condition of the sky?
(Circle One): a. Bright daylight d. Just a trace of daylight
b. Dull daylight . No trace of daylight
c. Bright twilight f. Don't remember
7. IF you saw the object during DAYLI IT, TWILIGHT, or D SUN located as you looked at
the object?
(Circle One): a. In front of you d. To your left
.In back of you .. Overhead
c. To your right .Don't remember
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