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Arigona, Thies install-tion is controlled by the aforementioned scientists.
Cleims to heve visited the installition on one ocersion enc in
order to enter was inetructed to disrobe end don a one niece covercll
suit, ‘when passing through o door, en alarm rang end_it wee det erriacc
thet the alarm was set otf by a silver vlete in MEM herd end his
dental fillings. ole GRR thet he was permitted to go insice
the inetalletion where he enw two small two plece ssucers, The occuprnts
of one saucer were burned, but the occup-nts of the other were in e@
perfect state of preservetion, The uniforms of rll the occvnents were
indestructible and of material foreim to earth, They wore ehoes of a
substance similar in thickmess end texture, to humen skin, mse shoes
were also indestructible and showed no sisne of wear. described
the cereft es hoving » tripod landing gear with ball end socket wheels.
They were licht enough in weight for two versone to raise them from the
ground, ‘ae 0: MEER thet he enc enother mn had lifted one
creft and ceuced the belle in two of the lege to svin, ‘When the dll
in the third leg wae caused to soin the craft suddenly tore itself
looee from the men and fell to the ground. GRP told GHA this
motion was so “ae it wrenched his back, The interior of tne creft,
' according to contained 4 series of buttons usec e © controls.
A smell redio was present, wnich MMMMMMMAcleims is the one which he
disvlayed st the ord Motor Comp-ny, in Denver. He further claims to
have obteined from the craft e« time device, consistine of two mctel
discs which rotete uoon one enother, He told ae: 0 tne discs
made a complete revolution every twenty-eight (28) deys. MEM told
—! thet he brought the radio, the time device, a few gsernrs, end
bits of met-l beck to Denver with him, He stated that the scientiets
hed told him thet the lerge 16 place seucer hed been tr'ten to Texas by
Air vorce representatives, one of whom was a three star Generel.
According to MEBMMMMMA the scientists were displeased end informed the
General thet he would get no more of the saucers. During the meeting
et the Ford Motor Compeny in Denver, MMMMMMBtsic the croup thet one
of the seucer occuprnts hed been removed and placed in the Aosenweld
Inetitution, Chicego, Illinois, for public displey, He steted thet the
room had been wired in order to record the Public's reection to the
Gispley. Mr. VE called « friend of his, connecte¢ with the
Rosenweld Institut and received the informetion thet the ertire story
wes false. Mr. advised that MMMM has veen relating facts and
figures regrrding flying saucers to him since early Octovoer 1929 end the
last reference made by @MMMMMMRA was that he hed been contscted telennoni-
celly by en official of the Federnl Bureeu of Investigetion, in Weshineton,
werning him to refrain from any further reference to flying saucers. hr,
stated thet MMMMMMMMis considered to ve of excellent chrracter,
a non-drinker, and not known to be adictted - the use of nercotics. He
further steted that he believed none of story to be true and
hes no explanrtion for (QQHEMM—Ms action. QM ctated that he would
execute ae signed statement if deemed necersery,

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5. Reference is mie to renort of Specirl arent AVITAL, ft dr ose:
1950, file 24-51, and TWX, DO #17, 2103152. Investigntion conducted by
this of piled to reveal the exact locetion of the radcr installation
vac lls ellegedly visited. Investigation friled to reverl tart
cleimed visiting any rodcr instrlletion but thrt such an inetrlla-
tion was mentioned es the lnniing nlece of the flying sxucers, This
aan cics reported to be near Albucuerque, The instell-tion which

Clrims to heve visitec is not a rader install:tion, tut a olece

neer Phoenix where scientific rescarch is conucte: by the sforenentioned
scientists.

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vossioly QR (exact spelling unknown), loceted in Zhoenix
or vicinity. .

UN. TED STATES AIR FORCE

THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
OFFICE OF SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

REPORT OF INVESTIGATION

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TITLE REPORT MADE AT
UNCONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT DO #13
(FLYING SAUCERS FROM VENUS COME PERIOD
TO EARTH) | 17 February 1950
OFFICE OF ORIGIN
| DO $13
STATUS
PINDING
CHARACTER
SPECIAL INQUIRY - UNCONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT
REFERENCE
RUC Rot of Investigation, DO #18, dated 1 Feb 1950, File 24-42
SYNOPSIS ’

All logical leads within the geographical boundaries of the
13th OSI District have been developed. Leads are currently
outstanding to District Office #17, Kirtland Air Force Base,
Albuquerque, New Mexico, from District Offices #13 and #18.

DISTRIBUTION ACTION COPY FORWARDED TO FILE STAMP
“CG, AMX, ATTN: CG, Air Materiel Command
MCIAX0=3 (Action) 2 Wright-Patterson AFB,
Ha OSI 2 Dayton, Ohio, ATTN:
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mee te be @ viclation of AUT i2.-1. Lt Colonel, USAF
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District Office #13 is in receipt of RUC Reports of Investigation

' from District Offices #14 and #18 in reply to Undeveloped Leads set forth
in PENDING Report, thie District, dated 20 January 1950. Distribution of
the aforementioned RUC Reports has been made to interested agencies. There
are outstanding leads to District Office #17, Kirtland Air Force Base,
Albuqueraue, New Mexico, from District Offices #13 and #18. No additional
information has been developed within the geographical boundaries of
District Office #13 during the period of this Report and subject to sub-
mission of the aforementioned PENDING Report.

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HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES AIR FORCE

FILE WO. DATE
covet Ss eae eet eTone T'Fobruary 1950
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION wa PRED T. RAGSDALS: ‘et

REPORT MADE AT
eae i, ere
(FLYING SAUCERS FRC: VENUS 1 Janusery 1950

OFFICE OF ORIGIN
COME TO EARTH) De #13

CUMAETER SPECIAL INGUIKY = UNCONVENTIONAL ATRCRAFT
MPEMEME Rpt of SA LAWRENCE A. APPLEBSE dtd 20 Jan 1950 at DO Al3, File #2h-51.

Investigation failed to reveal any agency or firm in Los
Angeles or vicinity by the name of United States Research
Bureau. Numerous letters have been forwarded to this
District Office addressed to that Bureau from individuals
who saw the article in question in the newspaper.

G, Aiic CG, Air Materiel Command
(action copies) “right-Patterson AF 3ase

Dayton; Ohio.
Hq OSI

DO #13
File

Lt Colonel, USAF

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File No. 24-42 1 Feb 1950

1. <A check with loeal sources of informition failed to reveal
any firm or agency in Los Angeles or vicinity by the name of United
States Research Burcau. The telephone directory lists a United States
Research and Development Company of 5225 Viilshire Boulevard, Los
Angeles, California. A check with that company reveals it is one
owned by ur. He is a consultant for a number of rubber
cempenies and claims he uses the ‘Vilshire boulevard address only as a
mailing address. Mr. QQ said that during the past few weeks he
hes recejved several letters addressed to the United States Research
Bureau, Los Angeles, Valifornia, which were from individuals residing
in Kansas and Missouri. The first batch of letters, according to Mr.
were forwarded to the U. S. Department of Agriculture, Bureau
of Agricultural and Industrial Chemistry, 263 South Chester Avenue,
Pasadena, California. He went on to advise that only recently he had
received letters from Butler and Indepemience, iissouri, and when he
called the Department of Agriculture, mentioned above, he was told to
send them direct to the 18th District Office of Special Investigations.

, _ 2e Inquiry was made with the U. S. Department of Agriculture,
263 S. Chester Avenue, Pasadena, Californis, and in talking wit’ ir. Gay
ee ** was ascertained that he did not know of any such agency or
in Los Angeles by the name of United States Research Bureseu. ifr,
QWs aid that all the letters which he had received, addressed to
the United States Research Bureau, had been forwarded to 18th District
Office of Special Investigations.

3. For the information of offices receiving copies of this
report, it is to be mentioned that numerous letters have been for-
warded to this District Office from individuals residing in Kansas
and Missouri and who saw the article in question in the newspapcr.

These letters were all addressed to the United States Research Bureau
and requested to be furn‘shed with information as to tne authenticity
of the article appearing in the newspaper. This office has acknowledged
receipt of these letters and has forwarded them to Headquarters OSI

for appropriate handling.
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THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
OFFICE OF SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

UNCONVAITIONL AIRCRAFT
(SLYING SAUCERS FROM VINUS COIs TO
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SPHOIAL J) UISY

All losical leads have been develoved and
reported. This invostigation 11 be considered
CLOSED in the files of the 13th District, Office
of Special Investigations.

DISTRIBUTION ACTION COPY FORWARDED TO

CG, Alc (Action) 2 | Commanding General
ATT: MCIAXO—3 Air Materiel Command

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NO #17 (Info) 1 Tt: IMCIAXO—3

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Office {17, same title, dated 6 i‘arch 1950, all logical leads have been

developed and reported. This Investigation till be considered CLOST™D
in the files of District Office #15, Office of Special Investigations.

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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION aie, ——
Tits REPORT MADE AT ob oa
UNCOMVNTIONAT, AIRCRAFT Do #18 | yo
(TIXTIG SNICTRS MOI WS Cor PERIOD >]
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OFFICE OF ORIGIN :
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PAOTAL TH OUITEY | Ls pein 619 OAT
nevenence TX, HQ OSI3 DO 714 and 17, 15 January 1950.
Spot _Intellisence Report = HI) OST, DO .#14 and 17, 16 January 1950
SYNOPSIS
Article in Viyandotte “cho City, Kansas, 6 January 1950, stated
Kansas City auto dealer, “le while in Denver, met an ensineer
named who claime é€ seen two "Zlying Saucers" which hed
crashed at a radar station near the ilew i‘exico anc Arizona border.
These crait, each carrying a crew of two, were constructed of some un-
knovm metal and were stocl:ed with food in tablet form. @@MMBalso
clained to have removed from one of the craft a radio receiving and
transnitting set, whi at 1115 hours daily, received a messa‘e in an
uninorm lanzuage. niin saic that about tifty (50) of these craft
had been found in the United States in 2 tvo zear period, lorty (40)
of thom being presently at the 'Inited States esearch 3ureau in Los
4ngeles. stated it was assumed the craft had come ‘rom the
planet Venus.
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le This investigation was initiated at the cirection o* the
District Commander, based on information contained in the ‘handotte
eho, dated 6 January 1950.

2. On 14 January 1950, ‘. Ce, ancas

City, tdssourl, was intervioved rejarcing the story appeariny in the
‘iyandotte Tcho, 6 January 1950, a weekly newspaper published in Xansas
City, Kansas, at 715 !Snnesota Avenus, concerning flying saucers and
viiich quoted 1r SMM (See Inclosure ;1)

Concerning this article, Q™}said the information con=
tained in the article was correct in its entirety and tas as he received
it from I*r. QM, othervise unidentified, at Denver, Colorado, avout
two weeks’ prior to the article appearing in the Ncho. ‘Tr. ent on
to say*that he gave the information to a man named other7ise
widentified and unknown to@§—— over the telephone. Accordinc; to WF
-he had no idea that the information would be published. Accorcing to
Ge, ur. » an engineer at the Yord Plant, Denver, Colorado,
knows d his address, as does the representative of the J.

“alter a: Advertising Company in Denver. At the tines@ijP talked

to Denver had showed him a piece of metal and tiny
. rece g and transmitting set which he stated he had secured from one
of the two "flying saucers" which had crashed near the Arizona-jlew '’e:cco
border. The metal ted, was light weight and similar to alwiinw,
GF nt hat he had taken the radio set to a radio station
ch he is connected in Denver, and that tests there revealed that

at 1115 hours each day a broadcast was picked up m the.radio. ‘The broac-
cast was in sone strange lanzuage, and according to sounded like
"a Chinaman talking Japanese," further stated tha was
going to taie the metal to the ford Plant for analysis anc that he did
not hear what the results of this analysis were. @@gMMpould add nothing
further to the article appearing in the Yiyandotte County Mecho. (See copy
oz this article attached as Inclosure /1,)

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Cpy of article in “lyandotte
Peho, Xansas City, Kansas,
6 Jan 1950

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January 6, 1950

ACCTOT NT

The secret of the "Flying Saucers" is a secret no longer. Two
weeks aco, WM, well-lnom Kansas City auto dealer, stopped over
in Denver returning from Ogden, Utah. ‘while there he called on the
manager and the assistant manager of the Tord agency there. Their
conversation was interrupted by a call from two engineers, arranging
an immediate meeting. One of these engineers, a man named
revealed some startling information.

sees Saucers

According to the story told by GMM he "crashed the pate" at
a radar station near the New lLiexico and Arizona border after tio weeks
of arranging. Here he saw two of the highly secret "flying saucers,"
One of these was badly damaged, while the other was almost perfectly
intact. These objects were space ships of an wmusual desig. They
consisted of two parts, a cockpit or cabin about six feet in diameter,
and a ring 18 feet across and about two feet thick surrowmded this

cabin. In flight, the ring revolved at a high rate of speed, while

the cabin remained stationary like the center of a gyroscope. The ship
has a bearing type tripod landing gear, The cabin was constructed of a
metal resem g aluminum, but the actual make-up of the metal has defied
analysis. da portion of this metal in his possession, and
gave it to one of the ord men with instructions to send it to the Dear-

born Ford plant laboratory to see if they could either melt it or analyze
it.

Crews Dead

Fach of the two ships seen by @ilMMewere occupied by a crew of
two, Inthe badly damaged ship, these bodies were charred so badly that
little could be leamed from then. The occupants of the other ship,
while dead when they were found, were not burned or disfisured, and,
when saw them, were in a perfect state of preservation. /ledical
reports, according to@§M——, showed that these men were almost identical
with earth-<dwelling humans, except for a few minor differences, They
were of a uniform height of three feet, were wmiformly blond, beardless
and their teeth were completely free of fillings or cavities.

Strange Cloth and Food

They were dressed in uniform clothing made from blue material un-
known on earth, the threads in the clothing seeming to be a sort of wire.
The jackets had six buttons, and the trousers were tight-fitting. Their

shoes were of a slinp-m « They did not wear wndergarmenits, but had
their bodies taped, —iuesie 3 that it ras a matter of speculation

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UNCLASSIFIED

whether this vas the customary garb of these people, or whether these
were "space suits" or flying suits,

In each ship was a quantity of food in tablet form. “ne tyne of
the food was in the form of small. white tablets, about half the size
of Alka-Seltzer tablets. Another type vas a small brown cude, “hich,
when immersed in water, strelled to a volume of about a ralilon. ‘ater
contained in the ships had a wei;-ht tice as great as water on earth.

The ships seemed to be mametically controlled and vovered, as
they had no power plant in the ship itself. No armament or exploratory
equipment was found in them, and, since they seem to invariably crash
near radar installations, it is surmised that they are attracted by
radar, or possibly radar waves interfere with their control systems,

Lunar Clock

In addition to the piece of metal, @@—M@MliRashowed the croup in-
cl udin a clock or automatic calendar taken from one of the crafts.
It consis of two pieces of metal sandwiching some unusual tyne of
material. On the face of one of these pieces of metal appeared an
indentation, which, rotating around the disc, completed a cycle each
28 days, a lumar month.

TL Are Yound

According to the information civen there are around fiity
of these craft that have been found in the ted States in a period of

about two years, and forty of these are in the United States Research
Bureau in Los Angeles,

@@, «said that the best assumption as to the source of the ships
was the planet Venus, for it is the only planet that has an atmosphere
in any vay similar to ours, and it seems to have mametic properties
that would make it the logical home base of these space shins.

Planned "Leak"

se Wille assumption as to the reason behind the apparent lack of
security is that the government desires the information to be spread
from unofficial sources, wtil people are more or less familiar with the
facts. He feels that the security departments of the military fear that
the sudden shock of a surprise announcement of the fact that inter-
planetary travel was possible mivht cause mass hysteria, No cause for
alarm seems necessary, however, for, from all indications, the Venusian
visitors are quite peaceful, and even wmwilling, visitors to our planet.

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UNITED STATES AIR FORCE

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REPORT OF INVESTIGATION

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were taken, "by him, from a flying seucer. Lurins

» he denied having seen eny flying seavcers end

denied heving eny verts from them, He professed to believe thet inter-
plenetery trevel existed end thet flying seucers were lending in the

United Stetes.

steted th:t his informetion came from scientists

in Phoenix, Arizone, but declined to reveel their identity on the ground
thet it wes confidential.

RUC

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AIR MATERILL COLAND
WAIGHT—PaATTIRSCN AFB
Dayton, Chio
KCIAX0-3

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1. This is a joint investigction of Svecirl Agent PRWsARICK i’.
HANSUN end the writer.

2, kr, QUE, Resion iinneger, ord Notor Comsany, rnd
tir, WR were interviewed 17 Jenuary 1950, The follo ving
informetion was revenled, SUM, bicld Representetive, J.
Welter Thompson Comonny, has been oringing stories concerning flying
seucers since early Cctover 1949, Th stories origin ted
with , (previously reoorted os coe en advertising
sclesmen for Station KiYR in Denver, Colorado, stories des-
eribe the conetruction of flyi — the occupents, Just prior
to Christm s St ol the head gome parts,from a fly-
ing saucer, in his possession, requested thet he SMM ott emt
to errange en interview with and QMS ccme to the

Ford Motor Comocny office where p ee a and
severe] Nord Motor Compeny employees were oresent. ought with

him two (2) gears; severel metel discs, similer to "kmoc!< out" olugs
from electricsl fixtures; anc 2 gadget cescribed as a redio. ao
calimed to hrve had the redio pl-ying at one time and it olsyed a type
of music similer to Chinese. During the time of the visit at the Ford
Motor Company the redio remeined silent. While examining the gearr
with a magnifying glass, discovered the erabic numersl "6" and
@ emall arrow. —— called in one of his s ngineers who examined
the gears and pronounce’ them "just gears", WMA wcceivec the small
metal discs as a soft aluminum like metal which scretched easily.
UM. claimed that a friend of his at the Winter-eiss Comprny (euto-
mobile equipment) was unable to enalyze the type of metcl. (ar
immediately contacted hr, AMR of the Vinter-Weiss Company and
hed him chec the truth of the Stateuent. lr, @@MMMBAcolled back in
twenty-five (25) minutes end stated positively that none of his employees
had cofducted an anelysis of metal for me nor did any of them know

. At this tine ir, offered to have the metals analyzed
by the Yord hiotor Comosny technicians in Dearborn, Lichiern, out Qa
declined the offer, ENP claines to heve entered sn installction nesr
Phoenix, Arigona and hed ectually seen two (2) flying saucers. They
were mounted on e tripod type lencing gear, “he entire creft could be
lifted by two persons. Cne craft was dame¢ed and the occuvants hed been
wburned., “he other craft wes intect cnd the occuvants were i: a verfect
state of preserv-tion, “hey were three (3) feet tell, blond h-ir, beard--
less, end hed verfect teeth, These occupants were gerrbded in a blue
uniform of cloth mde from wire fabric, QM mentioned that the craft
hed a sugvly of food in teblet form rnd water weiching twice that of the
water on eerth. gi? mentioned a Dr. ati (spelling unknown) who
is sunposedly e scientist in Phoenix, Arizona, Accoréine to a
Dr. told him thst the flying saucers originsted in Venus and
that there were fifty (50) in existance in the United Strtes.
pleo told of fifteen (15) flying seucer occuprnts prrechuting to earth
nesr Phoenix enc thrt they becnrme invisible when mreued, It is the

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firm opinion of «rr. qa ond Nr, GR that WE foos not have
o "full string of fish", and that he is "probrbly off his rocker",
Since the meeting with GMM lr, has veen contrcted vy e
Weshineton newscaster ond the editor of the Amarillo Globe (Texss),
regrrdiny; the flying ssucers, but tol them was he . would r not
be connected with eny such fantactic tale, es st ot ed
thet they would execute ea signed stetement if deemed necess“ry.

3, ir, QM, radio advertising salesmen, Stetion Ira,
Denver, Colorsdo, wes interviewed 19 Jrenucry 1950. He efiirmed the
meeting at the Yord Kotor Company with | Sy SER Aes,
and several others, He admitted cevulging to these persons iniormation
concerning flying saucers, but denied very profoundly having had any
metals or gadgets. He elso denied mentioning any nemes regarding his
gourse of information, MMMM ctated thet he hed no parts of flying
seucers in his possession at vresent. He denied heving ever seen any
flying saucers or their occusrnts. He steted thet the source of his
informetion wes confidentiel in nature and that he wes duty-bounc not
to reveal euch source. stated that if he had been contected
by CSI Agents a month ago, he would have given eny information thet he
might here hed, He clrimecd to have been contacted by his source and
told to forget everything he knew, concerning the flying saucers.
WME claimed to have been svproached vy at least three m-gazines and
offered eas high as 45,000.00 for his flying saucer story. He was elso
approeched by a represent a as of the Kensas City Ster, He declined to
reveal eny information, stated that he fully believes that
flying saucers do exist and that interplenetary travel is being accomplished.

4, Mr, eS, Field revresentative, CI RaRNEen
Co y, Denver, oo branch, was interviewed 23 Januery 1950, ir,

stated that had been telling him stories concerning the
flying saucers since eerly in October 1949, He described one as being
116 feet across end cevrole of carrying 16 occupents. He stated that
they hed come from Ven:s anéd had mede the trip in forty-one (41) minutes.
He stated the speed of these eaucers was around 100,000 miles ner second.

Gm st eted thet his source of informstion was e Dr, Qo

f
Phoenix, irizonea and four othcr ecientists. (ggg told Qiimtnct
he had met these scientists through his wife, who was either related to
one of them, or a friend of some of them, They hed accented a dinner
invitation from MMMM when on route to Phoenix, Arizona: from the Wyoming
Oil Fields where they h-d conducted exneriments. MMMM cleins to heve
kept in contect with these scientists and gathered auite a bit of infor-
mstion concerning flying seucers. He told @MMMMthat the flying saucers
were landing near Albucueraue, New hexico, due to the ettraction of the
rader instelletion neerby. He presumed thet the radar activity hed an
effect on these saucers since they were powered by a megnetism drawn
from the etmosphere. After lsnding near Albuoueroue these saucers, oc-
cording to MMMM heve been transported to en installetion near Phoenix,

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